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  Lost Mail Function Jerry F <jerryf@pipeline.com> - 2015-03-09 00:20 -0400
    Re: Lost Mail Function Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2015-03-09 07:20 +0100
      Re: Lost Mail Function Jerry Fensterstock <jerryf@pipeline.com> - 2015-03-09 15:44 -0400
        Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-09 20:09 +0000
          Re: Lost Mail Function "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-03-10 00:17 +0000
            Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-10 00:51 +0000
              Re: Lost Mail Function Jerry Fensterstock <jerryf@pipeline.com> - 2015-03-09 21:36 -0400
                Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-10 03:07 +0000
                  Re: Lost Mail Function JoeyDee <email@nothanks.com> - 2015-03-10 09:23 -0400
                    Re: Lost Mail Function Jerry Fensterstock <jerryf@pipeline.com> - 2015-03-10 13:18 -0400
                      Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-10 17:29 +0000
                  Re: Lost Mail Function "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-03-11 02:05 +0000
                    Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-11 14:05 +0000
                      Re: Lost Mail Function "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-03-12 01:03 +0000
              Re: Lost Mail Function "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-03-11 01:59 +0000
                Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-11 14:04 +0000
                  Re: Lost Mail Function "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-03-12 01:12 +0000
          Re: Lost Mail Function Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-09 20:29 -0400
            Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-10 03:44 +0000
              Re: Lost Mail Function Jerry Fensterstock <jerryf@pipeline.com> - 2015-03-10 08:17 -0400
                Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-10 15:18 +0000
                  Re: Lost Mail Function Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-10 12:12 -0400
                    Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-10 16:33 +0000
                      Re: Lost Mail Function Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-10 16:51 -0400
                        Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-10 21:00 +0000
                          Re: Lost Mail Function Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-11 12:26 -0400
                            Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-11 16:52 +0000
                              Re: Lost Mail Function Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-11 13:48 -0400
                                Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-11 18:05 +0000
                                  Re: Lost Mail Function Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-11 16:31 -0400
              Re: Lost Mail Function Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-10 10:47 -0400

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#28046 — Lost Mail Function

I've just noticed that the Contacts icon has been taken away from mail. 
 Clicking on this allowed you to hughlight any number of entries in 
your contacts and have them included as recipients for  mail.  Is there 
any way to get this back or is it gone forever?  Are there any third 
part email programs that support this feature?

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#28048

Salut Jerry

In article <201503090020445669-jerryf@pipeline.com>,
 Jerry F <jerryf@pipeline.com> wrote:

> I've just noticed that the Contacts icon has been taken away from mail. 
>  Clicking on this allowed you to hughlight any number of entries in 
> your contacts and have them included as recipients for  mail.  Is there 
> any way to get this back or is it gone forever?  Are there any third 
> part email programs that support this feature?

it seems you forgot to mention what version of mail under what operating 
system...

In Mail.app 8.2 under Yoesemite 10.10.2 you'll find a +-sign on the 
right side of the "To", "Cc" field when you compose a new mail.
Click on it and there are your contacts.

Cheers
Andreas

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#28061

On 2015-03-09 06:20:45 +0000, Andreas Rutishauser said:

> Salut Jerry
> 
> In article <201503090020445669-jerryf@pipeline.com>,
>  Jerry F <jerryf@pipeline.com> wrote:
> 
>> I've just noticed that the Contacts icon has been taken away from mail.
>> Clicking on this allowed you to hughlight any number of entries in
>> your contacts and have them included as recipients for  mail.  Is there
>> any way to get this back or is it gone forever?  Are there any third
>> part email programs that support this feature?
> 
> it seems you forgot to mention what version of mail under what operating
> system...
> 
> In Mail.app 8.2 under Yoesemite 10.10.2 you'll find a +-sign on the
> right side of the "To", "Cc" field when you compose a new mail.
> Click on it and there are your contacts.
> 
> Cheers
> Andreas

Same as you, I am using Mail.app 8.2 under Yosemite 10.10.2.  The 
problem with using the + sign is that you have to do this one contact 
at at time.  You can't indicate more than one contact each time you 
press the + sign.  A real pain in the butt.  The best work around I 
found is to open up the Contacts app, select all of the entries I want, 
and then move them into the appropriate recipient field.  It works, but 
is not as productive as having the Contact functionality available 
right in the Mail app.  This appears to be an issue that was introduced 
with Yosemite.  I have found a lot of people complaining about this on 
various blogs.  Hopefully, Apple will restore the function.  I can 
think of no reason to have taken it out.

I appreciate the response.  If you have any other ideas I would be interested.

Thanks,

Jerry  

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#28063

On 2015-03-09, Jerry Fensterstock <jerryf@pipeline.com> wrote:
> On 2015-03-09 06:20:45 +0000, Andreas Rutishauser said:
>
>> Salut Jerry
>> 
>> In article <201503090020445669-jerryf@pipeline.com>,
>>  Jerry F <jerryf@pipeline.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've just noticed that the Contacts icon has been taken away from mail.
>>> Clicking on this allowed you to hughlight any number of entries in
>>> your contacts and have them included as recipients for  mail.  Is there
>>> any way to get this back or is it gone forever?  Are there any third
>>> part email programs that support this feature?
>> 
>> it seems you forgot to mention what version of mail under what operating
>> system...
>> 
>> In Mail.app 8.2 under Yoesemite 10.10.2 you'll find a +-sign on the
>> right side of the "To", "Cc" field when you compose a new mail.
>> Click on it and there are your contacts.
>>
> Same as you, I am using Mail.app 8.2 under Yosemite 10.10.2.  The 
> problem with using the + sign is that you have to do this one contact 
> at at time.  You can't indicate more than one contact each time you 
> press the + sign.  A real pain in the butt.  The best work around I 
> found is to open up the Contacts app, select all of the entries I want, 
> and then move them into the appropriate recipient field.  It works, but 
> is not as productive as having the Contact functionality available 
> right in the Mail app.

Honestly, they both seem counter-productive to me. The way I normally do
it is:

1. Type Command-N to start a new message, and the "To" field is active.
2. Type the beginning of a name. 
3. As soon as the correct name appears, press the Return key, which
places it into the field, and the field is ready to accept another name.
3. Go to step 2 and repeat until done.

I consider this to be quicker and simpler than selecting names with a
mouse cursor and dragging them into the field. 

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#28080

On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 20:09:18 UTC, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> 
wrote:

> On 2015-03-09, Jerry Fensterstock <jerryf@pipeline.com> wrote:
> > On 2015-03-09 06:20:45 +0000, Andreas Rutishauser said:
> >
> >> Salut Jerry
> >> 
> >> In article <201503090020445669-jerryf@pipeline.com>,
> >>  Jerry F <jerryf@pipeline.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I've just noticed that the Contacts icon has been taken away from mail.
> >>> Clicking on this allowed you to hughlight any number of entries in
> >>> your contacts and have them included as recipients for  mail.  Is there
> >>> any way to get this back or is it gone forever?  Are there any third
> >>> part email programs that support this feature?
> >> 
> >> it seems you forgot to mention what version of mail under what operating
> >> system...
> >> 
> >> In Mail.app 8.2 under Yoesemite 10.10.2 you'll find a +-sign on the
> >> right side of the "To", "Cc" field when you compose a new mail.
> >> Click on it and there are your contacts.
> >>
> > Same as you, I am using Mail.app 8.2 under Yosemite 10.10.2.  The 
> > problem with using the + sign is that you have to do this one contact 
> > at at time.  You can't indicate more than one contact each time you 
> > press the + sign.  A real pain in the butt.  The best work around I 
> > found is to open up the Contacts app, select all of the entries I want, 
> > and then move them into the appropriate recipient field.  It works, but 
> > is not as productive as having the Contact functionality available 
> > right in the Mail app.
> 
> Honestly, they both seem counter-productive to me. The way I normally do
> it is:
> 
> 1. Type Command-N to start a new message, and the "To" field is active.
> 2. Type the beginning of a name. 
> 3. As soon as the correct name appears, press the Return key, which
> places it into the field, and the field is ready to accept another name.
> 3. Go to step 2 and repeat until done.
> 
> I consider this to be quicker and simpler than selecting names with a
> mouse cursor and dragging them into the field. 

Using the pre-Yosemite version, click on the contacts icon in Mail, 
choose a group, then go down it command-clicking the desired 
recipients. Command-A doesn't work, but you can drag to multi-select
any number of names. When done, click "To", "Cc", or "Bcc" and they 
all go to the assigned slot on the email. How could anything be 
easier or faster?  

-- 
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#28083

On 2015-03-10, John Varela <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 20:09:18 UTC, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> 
>> Honestly, they both seem counter-productive to me. The way I normally do
>> it is:
>> 
>> 1. Type Command-N to start a new message, and the "To" field is active.
>> 2. Type the beginning of a name. 
>> 3. As soon as the correct name appears, press the Return key, which
>> places it into the field, and the field is ready to accept another name.
>> 3. Go to step 2 and repeat until done.
>> 
>> I consider this to be quicker and simpler than selecting names with a
>> mouse cursor and dragging them into the field. 
>
> Using the pre-Yosemite version, click on the contacts icon in Mail, 
> choose a group, then go down it command-clicking the desired 
> recipients. Command-A doesn't work, but you can drag to multi-select
> any number of names. When done, click "To", "Cc", or "Bcc" and they 
> all go to the assigned slot on the email. How could anything be 
> easier or faster?  

You're combining key clicks with mouse movements and clicks. My method
uses only key clicks. It's definitely faster.

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#28085

On 2015-03-10 00:51:38 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2015-03-10, John Varela <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 20:09:18 UTC, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Honestly, they both seem counter-productive to me. The way I normally do
>>> it is:
>>> 
>>> 1. Type Command-N to start a new message, and the "To" field is active.
>>> 2. Type the beginning of a name.
>>> 3. As soon as the correct name appears, press the Return key, which
>>> places it into the field, and the field is ready to accept another name.
>>> 3. Go to step 2 and repeat until done.
>>> 
>>> I consider this to be quicker and simpler than selecting names with a
>>> mouse cursor and dragging them into the field.
>> 
>> Using the pre-Yosemite version, click on the contacts icon in Mail,
>> choose a group, then go down it command-clicking the desired
>> recipients. Command-A doesn't work, but you can drag to multi-select
>> any number of names. When done, click "To", "Cc", or "Bcc" and they
>> all go to the assigned slot on the email. How could anything be
>> easier or faster?
> 
> You're combining key clicks with mouse movements and clicks. My method
> uses only key clicks. It's definitely faster.

I think that this depends on how you like to work.  If I am going to 
send an email to a lot of folks (20+), it is not likely that I am going 
to remember everyone, to allow me to start typing their names into the 
recipient field.  That's why I like to go down the Contacts directory 
and just click on people as I see them.  If there are only a half dozen 
or so, and they are in my front of mind, then typing their names into 
the field is fine.  But, for a large number, using the Contacts list 
works best for me.  That's why I was so annoyed that Apple pulled this 
function.  I like being given the option of deciding how I am going to 
work.  I don't like some guy in Cupertino deciding for me.

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#28086

On 2015-03-10, Jerry Fensterstock <jerryf@pipeline.com> wrote:
> On 2015-03-10 00:51:38 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>> On 2015-03-10, John Varela <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Using the pre-Yosemite version, click on the contacts icon in Mail,
>>> choose a group, then go down it command-clicking the desired
>>> recipients. Command-A doesn't work, but you can drag to multi-select
>>> any number of names. When done, click "To", "Cc", or "Bcc" and they
>>> all go to the assigned slot on the email. How could anything be
>>> easier or faster?
>> 
>> You're combining key clicks with mouse movements and clicks. My method
>> uses only key clicks. It's definitely faster.
>
> I think that this depends on how you like to work.  If I am going to 
> send an email to a lot of folks (20+), it is not likely that I am going 
> to remember everyone, to allow me to start typing their names into the 
> recipient field.

Nah. That's what contact groups are for. If I have a contact group
called Family, all I have to type is "fam" and Return and everyone
"Family" is automatically added to the "To" field. 

> That's why I like to go down the Contacts directory 
> and just click on people as I see them.  If there are only a half dozen 
> or so, and they are in my front of mind, then typing their names into 
> the field is fine.  But, for a large number, using the Contacts list 
> works best for me.  That's why I was so annoyed that Apple pulled this 
> function.  I like being given the option of deciding how I am going to 
> work.  I don't like some guy in Cupertino deciding for me.

If you really care about it, you should send Apple feedback about this:

<http://www.apple.com/feedback/>

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#28100

On 2015-03-10 03:07:54 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> Nah. That's what contact groups are for. If I have a contact group
> called Family, all I have to type is "fam" and Return and everyone
> "Family" is automatically added to the "To" field.

I think one of the points here is that not everyone in the group should 
receive this particular message, but only a subset of the group itself.

In that case I would then delete from the address field the ones that 
shouldn't be getting this message, but that's kind of klunky too.

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#28109

On 2015-03-10 13:23:39 +0000, JoeyDee said:

> On 2015-03-10 03:07:54 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
> 
>> Nah. That's what contact groups are for. If I have a contact group
>> called Family, all I have to type is "fam" and Return and everyone
>> "Family" is automatically added to the "To" field.
> 
> I think one of the points here is that not everyone in the group should 
> receive this particular message, but only a subset of the group itself.
> 
> In that case I would then delete from the address field the ones that 
> shouldn't be getting this message, but that's kind of klunky too.

The net is that Apple should have left the function in, and let the 
users decide how they want to do these tasks.

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#28110

On 2015-03-10, Jerry Fensterstock <jerryf@pipeline.com> wrote:
> On 2015-03-10 13:23:39 +0000, JoeyDee said:
>
>> On 2015-03-10 03:07:54 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>> 
>>> Nah. That's what contact groups are for. If I have a contact group
>>> called Family, all I have to type is "fam" and Return and everyone
>>> "Family" is automatically added to the "To" field.
>> 
>> I think one of the points here is that not everyone in the group should 
>> receive this particular message, but only a subset of the group itself.
>> 
>> In that case I would then delete from the address field the ones that 
>> shouldn't be getting this message, but that's kind of klunky too.
>
> The net is that Apple should have left the function in, and let the 
> users decide how they want to do these tasks.

That's debatable. It may very well be that Apple knows this feature is
not used by enough people to justify keeping it around. Perhaps if
enough people care enough to contact Apple and give them feedback about
it, they'll see fit to add the feature back. And in the mean time, there
are other more efficient ways to do the same thing anyway.

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#28121

On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 03:07:54 UTC, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
wrote:

> On 2015-03-10, Jerry Fensterstock <jerryf@pipeline.com> wrote:
> > On 2015-03-10 00:51:38 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
> >> On 2015-03-10, John Varela <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Using the pre-Yosemite version, click on the contacts icon in Mail,
> >>> choose a group, then go down it command-clicking the desired
> >>> recipients. Command-A doesn't work, but you can drag to multi-select
> >>> any number of names. When done, click "To", "Cc", or "Bcc" and they
> >>> all go to the assigned slot on the email. How could anything be
> >>> easier or faster?
> >> 
> >> You're combining key clicks with mouse movements and clicks. My method
> >> uses only key clicks. It's definitely faster.
> >
> > I think that this depends on how you like to work.  If I am going to 
> > send an email to a lot of folks (20+), it is not likely that I am going 
> > to remember everyone, to allow me to start typing their names into the 
> > recipient field.
> 
> Nah. That's what contact groups are for. If I have a contact group
> called Family, all I have to type is "fam" and Return and everyone
> "Family" is automatically added to the "To" field. 

I have some small groups -- fellow officers of our retired men's 
golf association, for example -- and then I do use the method you 
cite. But if I want, for example, to send to some old friends from 
college but not everyone in my alumni contact group, then I use the 
hold-down-the-Command-key and cursor down the list clicking on the 
ones I want. Or at least I used to do it that way until they screwed
it up.

> > That's why I like to go down the Contacts directory 
> > and just click on people as I see them.  If there are only a half dozen 
> > or so, and they are in my front of mind, then typing their names into 
> > the field is fine.  But, for a large number, using the Contacts list 
> > works best for me.  That's why I was so annoyed that Apple pulled this 
> > function.  I like being given the option of deciding how I am going to 
> > work.  I don't like some guy in Cupertino deciding for me.
> 
> If you really care about it, you should send Apple feedback about this:
> 
> <http://www.apple.com/feedback/>
 
I intend to.

-- 
John Varela

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#28139

On 2015-03-11, John Varela <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 03:07:54 UTC, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Nah. That's what contact groups are for. If I have a contact group
>> called Family, all I have to type is "fam" and Return and everyone
>> "Family" is automatically added to the "To" field. 
>
> I have some small groups -- fellow officers of our retired men's 
> golf association, for example -- and then I do use the method you 
> cite. But if I want, for example, to send to some old friends from 
> college but not everyone in my alumni contact group, then I use the 
> hold-down-the-Command-key and cursor down the list clicking on the 
> ones I want. Or at least I used to do it that way until they screwed
> it up.

They didn't "screw it up" - they removed it. There's a difference.

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#28165

On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 14:05:43 UTC, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
wrote:

> On 2015-03-11, John Varela <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 03:07:54 UTC, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Nah. That's what contact groups are for. If I have a contact group
> >> called Family, all I have to type is "fam" and Return and everyone
> >> "Family" is automatically added to the "To" field. 
> >
> > I have some small groups -- fellow officers of our retired men's 
> > golf association, for example -- and then I do use the method you 
> > cite. But if I want, for example, to send to some old friends from 
> > college but not everyone in my alumni contact group, then I use the 
> > hold-down-the-Command-key and cursor down the list clicking on the 
> > ones I want. Or at least I used to do it that way until they screwed
> > it up.
> 
> They didn't "screw it up" - they removed it. There's a difference.
 
You can still pull up the contacts list and choose a group, as 
before. But now only one person can be chosen from the group, where 
previously many addressees could be chosen at a time. I call that 
screwing it up.

-- 
John Varela

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#28120

On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 00:51:38 UTC, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
wrote:

> On 2015-03-10, John Varela <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
> > On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 20:09:18 UTC, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> 
> >> Honestly, they both seem counter-productive to me. The way I normally do
> >> it is:
> >> 
> >> 1. Type Command-N to start a new message, and the "To" field is active.
> >> 2. Type the beginning of a name. 
> >> 3. As soon as the correct name appears, press the Return key, which
> >> places it into the field, and the field is ready to accept another name.
> >> 3. Go to step 2 and repeat until done.
> >> 
> >> I consider this to be quicker and simpler than selecting names with a
> >> mouse cursor and dragging them into the field. 
> >
> > Using the pre-Yosemite version, click on the contacts icon in Mail, 
> > choose a group, then go down it command-clicking the desired 
> > recipients. Command-A doesn't work, but you can drag to multi-select
> > any number of names. When done, click "To", "Cc", or "Bcc" and they 
> > all go to the assigned slot on the email. How could anything be 
> > easier or faster?  
> 
> You're combining key clicks with mouse movements and clicks. My method
> uses only key clicks. It's definitely faster.
 
The only keyboard action would be to hold down the Command key, if 
using that method. If selecting everyone, or some sequential 
addressees, then it's a swipe with the cursor and no keyboarding.

-- 
John Varela

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#28138

On 2015-03-11, John Varela <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>> You're combining key clicks with mouse movements and clicks. My method
>> uses only key clicks. It's definitely faster.
>  
> The only keyboard action would be to hold down the Command key, if 
> using that method. If selecting everyone, or some sequential 
> addressees, then it's a swipe with the cursor and no keyboarding.

Are you going to write the message using only the mouse as well?

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#28166

On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 14:04:25 UTC, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
wrote:

> On 2015-03-11, John Varela <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> You're combining key clicks with mouse movements and clicks. My method
> >> uses only key clicks. It's definitely faster.
> >  
> > The only keyboard action would be to hold down the Command key, if 
> > using that method. If selecting everyone, or some sequential 
> > addressees, then it's a swipe with the cursor and no keyboarding.
> 
> Are you going to write the message using only the mouse as well?
 
Maybe once in a while, if just forwarding something, but in general,
no. So what?

By the way, I don't use a mouse, I use a trackball, so there's no 
fumbling to find it nor need to look. I just move my hand to the 
spot where it always is.

-- 
John Varela

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#28087

In article <cm6cvdF5s3dU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-03-09, Jerry Fensterstock <jerryf@pipeline.com> wrote:
> > On 2015-03-09 06:20:45 +0000, Andreas Rutishauser said:
> >
> >> Salut Jerry
> >> 
> >> In article <201503090020445669-jerryf@pipeline.com>,
> >>  Jerry F <jerryf@pipeline.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I've just noticed that the Contacts icon has been taken away from mail.
> >>> Clicking on this allowed you to hughlight any number of entries in
> >>> your contacts and have them included as recipients for  mail.  Is there
> >>> any way to get this back or is it gone forever?  Are there any third
> >>> part email programs that support this feature?
> >> 
> >> it seems you forgot to mention what version of mail under what operating
> >> system...
> >> 
> >> In Mail.app 8.2 under Yoesemite 10.10.2 you'll find a +-sign on the
> >> right side of the "To", "Cc" field when you compose a new mail.
> >> Click on it and there are your contacts.
> >>
> > Same as you, I am using Mail.app 8.2 under Yosemite 10.10.2.  The 
> > problem with using the + sign is that you have to do this one contact 
> > at at time.  You can't indicate more than one contact each time you 
> > press the + sign.  A real pain in the butt.  The best work around I 
> > found is to open up the Contacts app, select all of the entries I want, 
> > and then move them into the appropriate recipient field.  It works, but 
> > is not as productive as having the Contact functionality available 
> > right in the Mail app.
> 
> Honestly, they both seem counter-productive to me. The way I normally do
> it is:
> 
> 1. Type Command-N to start a new message, and the "To" field is active.
> 2. Type the beginning of a name. 
> 3. As soon as the correct name appears, press the Return key, which
> places it into the field, and the field is ready to accept another name.
> 3. Go to step 2 and repeat until done.
> 
> I consider this to be quicker and simpler than selecting names with a
> mouse cursor and dragging them into the field.

I often want to select many names from a group. I don't remember all the 
names, so I open up the contact list, select the group, and then scan 
down the group members selecting the ones I want. And I don't have to 
drag anything, just double-click to add them to "To", or click once and 
then click on the field name in the contacts window. You can also 
shift-click on each name, and then click on the field name at the end to 
add them all at once.

This is how I do it in SL -- it sounds like Apple has gone really 
backwards in newer versions if you can't do this.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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#28088

On 2015-03-10, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <cm6cvdF5s3dU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> Honestly, they both seem counter-productive to me. The way I normally do
>> it is:
>> 
>> 1. Type Command-N to start a new message, and the "To" field is active.
>> 2. Type the beginning of a name. 
>> 3. As soon as the correct name appears, press the Return key, which
>> places it into the field, and the field is ready to accept another name.
>> 3. Go to step 2 and repeat until done.
>> 
>> I consider this to be quicker and simpler than selecting names with a
>> mouse cursor and dragging them into the field.
>
> I often want to select many names from a group. I don't remember all the 
> names, so I open up the contact list, select the group, and then scan 
> down the group members selecting the ones I want. And I don't have to 
> drag anything, just double-click to add them to "To", or click once and 
> then click on the field name in the contacts window. You can also 
> shift-click on each name, and then click on the field name at the end to 
> add them all at once.

Why bother with all that nonsense when you can just type the name of the
group to have all of them added in one instant?

> This is how I do it in SL -- it sounds like Apple has gone really 
> backwards in newer versions if you can't do this.

Sounds more like you are holding onto some old method and don't want to
learn a newer, more efficient method to me.

-- 
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JR

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#28099

On 2015-03-10 03:44:27 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2015-03-10, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>> In article <cm6cvdF5s3dU1@mid.individual.net>,
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Honestly, they both seem counter-productive to me. The way I normally do
>>> it is:
>>> 
>>> 1. Type Command-N to start a new message, and the "To" field is active.
>>> 2. Type the beginning of a name.
>>> 3. As soon as the correct name appears, press the Return key, which
>>> places it into the field, and the field is ready to accept another name.
>>> 3. Go to step 2 and repeat until done.
>>> 
>>> I consider this to be quicker and simpler than selecting names with a
>>> mouse cursor and dragging them into the field.
>> 
>> I often want to select many names from a group. I don't remember all the
>> names, so I open up the contact list, select the group, and then scan
>> down the group members selecting the ones I want. And I don't have to
>> drag anything, just double-click to add them to "To", or click once and
>> then click on the field name in the contacts window. You can also
>> shift-click on each name, and then click on the field name at the end to
>> add them all at once.
> 
> Why bother with all that nonsense when you can just type the name of the
> group to have all of them added in one instant?
> 
>> This is how I do it in SL -- it sounds like Apple has gone really
>> backwards in newer versions if you can't do this.
> 
> Sounds more like you are holding onto some old method and don't want to
> learn a newer, more efficient method to me.

The problem is that this is not a fixed group.  The people I will email 
to will vary depending upon the content of the messsage.  Allowing me 
to select names on the fly, from my Contacts directory gives me the 
most flexibility possible.  Apple decided that I don't need this.  I, 
along with a lot of othher folks, have sent them feedback on this.  I 
am not optimistic.  

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