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Re: Lost Mail Function

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From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject Re: Lost Mail Function
Date 10 Mar 2015 16:33:17 GMT
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On 2015-03-10, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <cm8gamFm2agU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-03-10, Jerry Fensterstock <jerryf@pipeline.com> wrote:
>> > On 2015-03-10 03:44:27 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>> >
>> >> Why bother with all that nonsense when you can just type the name of the
>> >> group to have all of them added in one instant?
>> >> 
>> >>> This is how I do it in SL -- it sounds like Apple has gone really
>> >>> backwards in newer versions if you can't do this.
>> >> 
>> >> Sounds more like you are holding onto some old method and don't want to
>> >> learn a newer, more efficient method to me.
>> >
>> > The problem is that this is not a fixed group.  The people I will email 
>> > to will vary depending upon the content of the messsage.  Allowing me 
>> > to select names on the fly, from my Contacts directory gives me the 
>> > most flexibility possible.
>> 
>> You still have the flexibility to choose multiple people - with the
>> keyboard, not with the mouse:
>> 
>> 1. Type Command-N to start a new message, and the "To" field is active.
>> 2. Type the beginning of a name until the correct name appears. 
>> 3. Press the Return key, which places the person into the field.
>> 4. Go to step 2 and repeat until done.
>
> You seem to have skipped the steps of going back and forth between the 
> Mail application and Address Book to find all the names I want to send 
> to.

Nope. Usually, the list of people I want to message is already in my
head. So I just type the first couple letters for each name I want,
pressing Return between each one, and I'm done. There's no need to
switch to any other application. And if the list of people I want to
message isn't in my head, they are in a group, and I can just type the
name of that group instead. Done deal. If I want to omit one or two
people from the group, I can then delete one or two from the To field.
Simple.

If the list of people you want to message isn't already in your head,
and you don't have a group set up, then you are working in a very
inefficient manner to begin with and probably should address that
problem for your own sake.

> Your method requires at least 3 or 4 keystrokes for each recipient. 
> That's at least 45 keystrokes when sending to a dozen people.

What you are conveniently ignoring is that with my method there is no
context switch between using the keyboard and using the mouse, and no
scrolling, and no hunting involved as there is with your method. It's
been shown time and again that removal of such context switches results
in more efficiency and saved time. Sit someone down and time them using
each method and the results are clear. My method is way faster and more
efficient.

>> It's fast and simple. I argue faster and simpler than your mouse-based
>> method:
>> 
>> 1. From the Mail menu bar choose File > New Message.
>> 2. Click the "Address" button at the top of the window.
>> 3. Scroll through the list and click the person/address you want to add
>> to select that person in the list.
>> 4. Repeat step 3 while holding down Command/Shift to select more people
>> from the list.
>> 5. Drag (or double-click) the selected list of people/addresses.
>
> About a dozen mouse clicks to send to a dozen people. What's the problem?

No problem - just way less efficient and slower. By all means, lobby
Apple to give you features that allow you to use your inefficient,
slower method, if you insist. Just don't act like you are completely
unable to do what you want when a better alternative exists.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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Lost Mail Function Jerry F <jerryf@pipeline.com> - 2015-03-09 00:20 -0400
  Re: Lost Mail Function Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2015-03-09 07:20 +0100
    Re: Lost Mail Function Jerry Fensterstock <jerryf@pipeline.com> - 2015-03-09 15:44 -0400
      Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-09 20:09 +0000
        Re: Lost Mail Function "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-03-10 00:17 +0000
          Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-10 00:51 +0000
            Re: Lost Mail Function Jerry Fensterstock <jerryf@pipeline.com> - 2015-03-09 21:36 -0400
              Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-10 03:07 +0000
                Re: Lost Mail Function JoeyDee <email@nothanks.com> - 2015-03-10 09:23 -0400
                Re: Lost Mail Function Jerry Fensterstock <jerryf@pipeline.com> - 2015-03-10 13:18 -0400
                Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-10 17:29 +0000
                Re: Lost Mail Function "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-03-11 02:05 +0000
                Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-11 14:05 +0000
                Re: Lost Mail Function "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-03-12 01:03 +0000
            Re: Lost Mail Function "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-03-11 01:59 +0000
              Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-11 14:04 +0000
                Re: Lost Mail Function "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-03-12 01:12 +0000
        Re: Lost Mail Function Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-09 20:29 -0400
          Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-10 03:44 +0000
            Re: Lost Mail Function Jerry Fensterstock <jerryf@pipeline.com> - 2015-03-10 08:17 -0400
              Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-10 15:18 +0000
                Re: Lost Mail Function Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-10 12:12 -0400
                Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-10 16:33 +0000
                Re: Lost Mail Function Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-10 16:51 -0400
                Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-10 21:00 +0000
                Re: Lost Mail Function Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-11 12:26 -0400
                Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-11 16:52 +0000
                Re: Lost Mail Function Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-11 13:48 -0400
                Re: Lost Mail Function Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-11 18:05 +0000
                Re: Lost Mail Function Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-11 16:31 -0400
            Re: Lost Mail Function Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-10 10:47 -0400

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