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| First post | 2018-11-20 10:27 -0500 |
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Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-20 10:27 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-20 15:36 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-20 21:05 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 03:42 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 20:05 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 06:03 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-21 09:30 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 14:47 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:27 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:49 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-21 11:52 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 17:07 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:22 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 17:44 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:58 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 12:00 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-22 11:04 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:56 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 17:29 -0700
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 11:41 +0100
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 03:17 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-22 12:49 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-22 10:57 -0700
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 11:08 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 13:29 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:47 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 15:34 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 05:23 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:18 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 03:43 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 21:02 -0700
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:44 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-22 10:41 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 08:00 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-22 16:13 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:53 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-23 00:20 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 16:36 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-25 18:26 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 07:22 -0600
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 05:53 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-26 16:23 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 10:55 -0600
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-26 17:06 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 12:06 -0600
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:17 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-26 18:24 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:33 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:49 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 18:55 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 20:53 -0800
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| From | DFS <nospam@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 10:27 -0500 |
| Subject | Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN |
| Message-ID | <KKVID.666130$MK2.318387@fx35.iad> |
"October 2016: Windows 10 becomes the default operating system at CERN." https://espace.cern.ch/winservices-help/NICEEnvironment/NICEWindows10/Pages/Status-of-Windows-10-at-CERN.aspx "As of end of March 2010, Windows 7 is officially supported at CERN and is the default operating system to install on the computers that meet the minimum hardware requirements" I can only imagine the bribes MS paid...
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 15:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <80z08ba.ayo3@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #478234 |
DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > "October 2016: Windows 10 becomes the default operating system at CERN." > Good enough for CERN, but not good enough for DFS. > https://espace.cern.ch/winservices-help/NICEEnvironment/NICEWindows10/Pages/Status-of-Windows-10-at-CERN.aspx > > > "As of end of March 2010, Windows 7 is officially supported at CERN and > is the default operating system to install on the computers that meet > the minimum hardware requirements" > I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries. > > > > I can only imagine the bribes MS paid... > > "If you are interested in Windows 10, please join the CERN Windows 10 Community." If you click on that, you get this: <quote> Running Windows Edge as your browser? If you are running Windows Edge as your favorite browser and have a laptop/PC not managed by CERN IT's "CMF", patch now! There is a nasty vulnerability (https://securelist.com/a-new-exploit-for-zero-day-vulnerability-cve-2018-8589/88845/) out which can compromize your computer if you happened to browse to the wrong web-page... Just go to "Windows Update" and let it do its job. Centrally CERN/Windows PCs will be patched through CMF today. Managers of locally managed Windows PC should consider applying those patches, too. </quote> LOL!
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| From | DFS <nospam@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 21:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <_43JD.1402222$YL3.507850@fx48.iad> |
| In reply to | #478236 |
On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote: > DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >> "October 2016: Windows 10 becomes the default operating system at CERN." >> > > Good enough for CERN, but not good enough for DFS. I don't have any protons to smash. >> https://espace.cern.ch/winservices-help/NICEEnvironment/NICEWindows10/Pages/Status-of-Windows-10-at-CERN.aspx >> >> >> "As of end of March 2010, Windows 7 is officially supported at CERN and >> is the default operating system to install on the computers that meet >> the minimum hardware requirements" >> > > I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries. I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a Windows screen. >> I can only imagine the bribes MS paid... >> >> > > "If you are interested in Windows 10, please join the CERN Windows 10 > Community." > > If you click on that, you get this: > <quote> > Running Windows Edge as your browser? > If you are running Windows Edge as your favorite > browser and have a laptop/PC not managed by CERN > IT's "CMF", patch now! There is a nasty vulnerability > (https://securelist.com/a-new-exploit-for-zero-day-vulnerability-cve-2018-8589/88845/) > out which can compromize your computer if you happened to browse > to the wrong web-page... Just go to "Windows Update" and let it > do its job. Centrally CERN/Windows PCs will be patched through CMF > today. Managers of locally managed Windows PC should consider applying > those patches, too. > </quote> > > LOL! Don't run Edge, and don't go to the wrong web page. Non-problem solved...
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 03:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <9t00a8ba.ablhou3@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #478341 |
DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote: >>> >> >> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries. > > > I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a > Windows screen. > > Google has a street view inside of CERN control room. You can walk around and see about 80 computer screens. I see two or three obvious windows machines (at login prompt). Where you see other desktops, *maybe* one was windows. Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort, but it's hard to tell. It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens): https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 20:05 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <fa201a59-f2b8-462b-908c-3569f6b380dd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #478362 |
On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 8:42:27 PM UTC-7, owl wrote: > DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > > On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote: > >>> > >> > >> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries. > > > > > > I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a > > Windows screen. > > > > > > Google has a street view inside of CERN control room. You can walk > around and see about 80 computer screens. I see two or three obvious > windows machines (at login prompt). Where you see other desktops, > *maybe* one was windows. Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort, > but it's hard to tell. It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the > screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's > Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens): > > https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf You're like a shark in a goldfish bowl. We all see you there and let you know. And you're so brain-dead you keep rejecting it. Steve 'The Flooder' Carroll claims to be the Linux-teacher, let us see him put up a version without the automated loops.I shall not ask Steve 'The Flooder' Carroll how any part of Desk Rabbit's anatomy tastes no matter how regularly Steve 'The Flooder' Carroll kisses it. Both of those guys get their thrill out of triggering angry reactions to their lies, which is the very definition of a troll. Playing with Linux... forever an initiate... Steve 'The Flooder' Carroll-like idiots are now babbling about the open source "GUI" as if something like that literally exists. -- My Snoring Solution! http://www.5z8.info/dont-just-drizzle_y8q4ut_5waystokillwithamelon http://jeff-relf.me/Cola_Regs.HTM http://www.5z8.info/titstitstitstits_j7t4bl_stalin Jonas Eklundh Communication
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| From | fr314159@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 06:03 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <c972ffb7-fd91-4bb4-a01a-e6b81d29d892@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #478362 |
On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 10:42:27 PM UTC-5, owl wrote: > > It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the > screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's > Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens): > Absolutely no doubt. At the cutting edge, where the rubber meets the road, there is only GNU/Linux. In the back room where the idiots and retards practice their mindless and rote mechanical tasks, Microshit Winblows is the appliance of necessity. The stupid stooge will never learn. He is like an idiot on roller skates. He keeps falling and stumbling but even though he'll never make it he just won't quit.
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| From | DFS <nospam@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 09:30 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <k%dJD.599346$OM2.498038@fx37.iad> |
| In reply to | #478362 |
On 11/20/2018 10:42 PM, owl wrote: > DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote: >>>> >>> >>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries. >> >> >> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a >> Windows screen. >> >> > > Google has a street view inside of CERN control room. You can walk > around and see about 80 computer screens. I see two or three obvious > windows machines (at login prompt). Where you see other desktops, > *maybe* one was windows. Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort, > but it's hard to tell. It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the > screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's > Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens): > > https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf ======================================================================= Way back when: "CERN has a large Windows 95/NT infrastructure with more than 3500 PCs connected that is used as one of the main information services for the laboratory. This infrastructure is used for a wide set of services, including Office Automation, Computing Aided Engineering, Calculations, Software Development, and ... controls." (note the Access db diagram on pg 5. I wept with pride...) http://conference.kek.jp/PCaPAC99/cdrom/paper/tu/tu5.pdf ======================================================================= 2003: SOFTWARE DEPLOYMENT AND CONFIGURATION OF THE CERN ACCELERATOR CONTROL ROOMS CONSOLES M. Albert, G. Crockford, E. Hatziangeli , S. Lopienski CERN, Geneva, Switzerland https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/ica03/PAPERS/WP533.PDF "These PCs are running Windows 2000 Professional using the NICE computing environment [1] (CERN Windows 2000 client-server architecture). ... Moving away from UNIX X-terminals to Windows based PC consoles required serious changes in the present strategy for software deployment." ======================================================================= 2008 "Sliding glass doors part quietly into a large, modern room with [Microsoft W]indows that stretch all the way up to the high ceiling." https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/embedded-systems/powering-the-large-hadron-collider ======================================================================= 2009 "What operating system do you all use? "A lot of it is Linux-based for the actual control-room infrastructure stuff. There's a lot of coding that's easier to do in Linux, there's a lot of Java applications for the visuals. Operating system-wise, there are a lot of people preferring to use Macs rather than Windows." https://www.cnet.com/news/interview-inside-cern-with-an-lhc-scientist/ ======================================================================= 2012 The Atlas control room. All 8 of the big screens are running Linux (zoom in on the window controls). https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2353941,6.0557112,2a,90y,273.33h,88.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4v_cqxink5ynRNL3dHje_A!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 ======================================================================= 2012: The main CERN control center. All Windows - except where it's not. https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2546333,6.0569245,2a,75y,322.71h,83.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIoZWzIfJXwJ-6R8gXKEsrA!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 =======================================================================
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 14:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <yz97b9.agu9ag@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #478408 |
DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > On 11/20/2018 10:42 PM, owl wrote: >> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >>> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries. >>> >>> >>> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a >>> Windows screen. >>> >>> >> >> Google has a street view inside of CERN control room. You can walk >> around and see about 80 computer screens. I see two or three obvious >> windows machines (at login prompt). Where you see other desktops, >> *maybe* one was windows. Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort, >> but it's hard to tell. It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the >> screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's >> Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens): >> >> https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf > > ======================================================================= > > Way back when: > > "CERN has a large Windows 95/NT infrastructure with > more than 3500 PCs connected that is used as one of > the main information services for the laboratory. This > infrastructure is used for a wide set of services, > including Office Automation, Computing Aided > Engineering, Calculations, Software Development, > and ... controls." > > (note the Access db diagram on pg 5. I wept with pride...) > > > http://conference.kek.jp/PCaPAC99/cdrom/paper/tu/tu5.pdf > > > ======================================================================= > 2003: > > SOFTWARE DEPLOYMENT AND CONFIGURATION OF THE CERN ACCELERATOR CONTROL > ROOMS CONSOLES > M. Albert, G. Crockford, E. Hatziangeli , S. Lopienski CERN, Geneva, > Switzerland > > https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/ica03/PAPERS/WP533.PDF > > > "These PCs are running Windows 2000 Professional using the NICE > computing environment [1] (CERN Windows 2000 client-server architecture). > > ... > > Moving away from UNIX X-terminals to Windows based PC consoles required > serious changes in the present strategy for software deployment." > I'm suprprised the world survived that era. > > ======================================================================= > > 2008 > > "Sliding glass doors part quietly into a large, modern room with > [Microsoft W]indows that stretch all the way up to the high ceiling." > Not. > https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/embedded-systems/powering-the-large-hadron-collider > > > ======================================================================= > > 2009 > > "What operating system do you all use? > > "A lot of it is Linux-based for the actual control-room infrastructure > stuff. There's a lot of coding that's easier to do in Linux, there's a > lot of Java applications for the visuals. Operating system-wise, there > are a lot of people preferring to use Macs rather than Windows." > > https://www.cnet.com/news/interview-inside-cern-with-an-lhc-scientist/ > > ======================================================================= > > 2012 > > The Atlas control room. All 8 of the big screens are running Linux > (zoom in on the window controls). > > https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2353941,6.0557112,2a,90y,273.33h,88.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4v_cqxink5ynRNL3dHje_A!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 > > ======================================================================= > > 2012: > > The main CERN control center. All Windows - except where it's not. > With "where it's not" being practically everywhere. > https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2546333,6.0569245,2a,75y,322.71h,83.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIoZWzIfJXwJ-6R8gXKEsrA!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 > > ======================================================================= That's the same street view I took the screenshot from. https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.254712,6.0567695,2a,54.7y,261.5h,75.88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHHl0fHKIFBxGx-aBuZwMVg!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there. The vast majority are Linux.
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 07:27 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f98e7111-a125-4588-81a2-ee6d3f9fd6a9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #478412 |
On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > > On 11/20/2018 10:42 PM, owl wrote: > >> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > >>> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote: > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries. > >>> > >>> > >>> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a > >>> Windows screen. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Google has a street view inside of CERN control room. You can walk > >> around and see about 80 computer screens. I see two or three obvious > >> windows machines (at login prompt). Where you see other desktops, > >> *maybe* one was windows. Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort, > >> but it's hard to tell. It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the > >> screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's > >> Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens): > >> > >> https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf > > > > ======================================================================= > > > > Way back when: > > > > "CERN has a large Windows 95/NT infrastructure with > > more than 3500 PCs connected that is used as one of > > the main information services for the laboratory. This > > infrastructure is used for a wide set of services, > > including Office Automation, Computing Aided > > Engineering, Calculations, Software Development, > > and ... controls." > > > > (note the Access db diagram on pg 5. I wept with pride...) > > > > > > http://conference.kek.jp/PCaPAC99/cdrom/paper/tu/tu5.pdf > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > 2003: > > > > SOFTWARE DEPLOYMENT AND CONFIGURATION OF THE CERN ACCELERATOR CONTROL > > ROOMS CONSOLES > > M. Albert, G. Crockford, E. Hatziangeli , S. Lopienski CERN, Geneva, > > Switzerland > > > > https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/ica03/PAPERS/WP533.PDF > > > > > > "These PCs are running Windows 2000 Professional using the NICE > > computing environment [1] (CERN Windows 2000 client-server architecture). > > > > ... > > > > Moving away from UNIX X-terminals to Windows based PC consoles required > > serious changes in the present strategy for software deployment." > > > > I'm suprprised the world survived that era. > > > > > ======================================================================= > > > > 2008 > > > > "Sliding glass doors part quietly into a large, modern room with > > [Microsoft W]indows that stretch all the way up to the high ceiling." > > > > Not. > > > https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/embedded-systems/powering-the-large-hadron-collider > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > > > 2009 > > > > "What operating system do you all use? > > > > "A lot of it is Linux-based for the actual control-room infrastructure > > stuff. There's a lot of coding that's easier to do in Linux, there's a > > lot of Java applications for the visuals. Operating system-wise, there > > are a lot of people preferring to use Macs rather than Windows." > > > > https://www.cnet.com/news/interview-inside-cern-with-an-lhc-scientist/ > > > > ======================================================================= > > > > 2012 > > > > The Atlas control room. All 8 of the big screens are running Linux > > (zoom in on the window controls). > > > > https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2353941,6.0557112,2a,90y,273.33h,88.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4v_cqxink5ynRNL3dHje_A!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 > > > > ======================================================================= > > > > 2012: > > > > The main CERN control center. All Windows - except where it's not. > > > > With "where it's not" being practically everywhere. > > > https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2546333,6.0569245,2a,75y,322.71h,83.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIoZWzIfJXwJ-6R8gXKEsrA!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 > > > > ======================================================================= > > That's the same street view I took the screenshot from. > > https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.254712,6.0567695,2a,54.7y,261.5h,75.88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHHl0fHKIFBxGx-aBuZwMVg!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 > > Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there. > The vast majority are Linux. And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is, propping up a short table leg.
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 07:49 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <e9279ec4-2eab-43da-8b64-7300a34893ba@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #478417 |
On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 8:27:58 AM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > > DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > > > On 11/20/2018 10:42 PM, owl wrote: > > >> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > > >>> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a > > >>> Windows screen. > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> Google has a street view inside of CERN control room. You can walk > > >> around and see about 80 computer screens. I see two or three obvious > > >> windows machines (at login prompt). Where you see other desktops, > > >> *maybe* one was windows. Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort, > > >> but it's hard to tell. It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the > > >> screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's > > >> Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens): > > >> > > >> https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > > > > > Way back when: > > > > > > "CERN has a large Windows 95/NT infrastructure with > > > more than 3500 PCs connected that is used as one of > > > the main information services for the laboratory. This > > > infrastructure is used for a wide set of services, > > > including Office Automation, Computing Aided > > > Engineering, Calculations, Software Development, > > > and ... controls." > > > > > > (note the Access db diagram on pg 5. I wept with pride...) > > > > > > > > > http://conference.kek.jp/PCaPAC99/cdrom/paper/tu/tu5.pdf > > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > > 2003: > > > > > > SOFTWARE DEPLOYMENT AND CONFIGURATION OF THE CERN ACCELERATOR CONTROL > > > ROOMS CONSOLES > > > M. Albert, G. Crockford, E. Hatziangeli , S. Lopienski CERN, Geneva, > > > Switzerland > > > > > > https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/ica03/PAPERS/WP533.PDF > > > > > > > > > "These PCs are running Windows 2000 Professional using the NICE > > > computing environment [1] (CERN Windows 2000 client-server architecture). > > > > > > ... > > > > > > Moving away from UNIX X-terminals to Windows based PC consoles required > > > serious changes in the present strategy for software deployment." > > > > > > > I'm suprprised the world survived that era. > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > > > > > 2008 > > > > > > "Sliding glass doors part quietly into a large, modern room with > > > [Microsoft W]indows that stretch all the way up to the high ceiling." > > > > > > > Not. > > > > > https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/embedded-systems/powering-the-large-hadron-collider > > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > > > > > 2009 > > > > > > "What operating system do you all use? > > > > > > "A lot of it is Linux-based for the actual control-room infrastructure > > > stuff. There's a lot of coding that's easier to do in Linux, there's a > > > lot of Java applications for the visuals. Operating system-wise, there > > > are a lot of people preferring to use Macs rather than Windows." > > > > > > https://www.cnet.com/news/interview-inside-cern-with-an-lhc-scientist/ > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > > > > > 2012 > > > > > > The Atlas control room. All 8 of the big screens are running Linux > > > (zoom in on the window controls). > > > > > > https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2353941,6.0557112,2a,90y,273.33h,88.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4v_cqxink5ynRNL3dHje_A!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > > > > > 2012: > > > > > > The main CERN control center. All Windows - except where it's not. > > > > > > > With "where it's not" being practically everywhere. > > > > > https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2546333,6.0569245,2a,75y,322.71h,83.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIoZWzIfJXwJ-6R8gXKEsrA!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > > > That's the same street view I took the screenshot from. > > > > https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.254712,6.0567695,2a,54.7y,261.5h,75.88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHHl0fHKIFBxGx-aBuZwMVg!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 > > > > Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there. > > The vast majority are Linux. > > > And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is, > propping up a short table leg. Jonas Eklundh Communication AB has cut down on the hundreds of narcissistic, bullshit posts he used to post but he's surely unchanged in the honesty territory. He simple uses shills more to produce those threads. chrisv can create a virtual machine. Makes Jonas Eklundh Communication AB cry because he can not. Both chrisv and Jonas Eklundh Communication AB had their clinkers and their humiliations. One presented it cool and didn't do anything too publicly that could not be re-done in a way that made it look like he had a clue. -- This Trick Gets Women Hot For You! https://youtu.be/UkAyrfOZaXc Jonas Eklundh
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| From | DFS <nospam@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 11:52 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <04gJD.642201$VM2.343107@fx04.iad> |
| In reply to | #478417 |
On 11/21/2018 10:27 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: >> Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there. >> The vast majority are Linux. > > > And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is, > propping up a short table leg. I got'cher table leg right here...
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 17:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <z08t83g.y8p25@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #478450 |
DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > On 11/21/2018 10:27 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: >> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > >>> Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there. >>> The vast majority are Linux. >> >> >> And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is, >> propping up a short table leg. > > > I got'cher table leg right here... > Nice play on the "short table leg."
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 09:22 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <db4513a6-a54a-4d94-8e91-6ce5a7e1d6c9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #478453 |
On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 10:07:23 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > > On 11/21/2018 10:27 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > >> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > > > >>> Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there. > >>> The vast majority are Linux. > >> > >> > >> And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is, > >> propping up a short table leg. > > > > > > I got'cher table leg right here... > > > > Nice play on the "short table leg." What's not to like about self deprecating humor? <https://imgur.com/a/sLUNVnt>
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 17:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <87b0a003gag.aho3gah@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #478457 |
Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 10:07:23 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: >> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >> > On 11/21/2018 10:27 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: >> > >> >>> Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there. >> >>> The vast majority are Linux. >> >> >> >> >> >> And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is, >> >> propping up a short table leg. >> > >> > >> > I got'cher table leg right here... >> > >> >> Nice play on the "short table leg." > > What's not to like about self deprecating humor? > > <https://imgur.com/a/sLUNVnt> John Gohde's got your table leg right here. http://i.imgur.com/2N2fCdk.png
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 09:58 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <376046e7-a39a-47a4-a6cb-3ae2167c8352@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #478466 |
On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 10:44:50 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 10:07:23 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > >> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > >> > On 11/21/2018 10:27 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > >> >> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > >> > > >> >>> Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there. > >> >>> The vast majority are Linux. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is, > >> >> propping up a short table leg. > >> > > >> > > >> > I got'cher table leg right here... > >> > > >> > >> Nice play on the "short table leg." > > > > What's not to like about self deprecating humor? > > > > <https://imgur.com/a/sLUNVnt> > > John Gohde's got your table leg right here. > http://i.imgur.com/2N2fCdk.png LOL! Even though he's crotchety as f*ck, I kinda feel sorry for JG at times. I actually admire his thrift-store values, a lot of us are too into just tossing things... in an endless cycle of polluting the place as we do. Now whales are coming up on beaches with bunches of plastic in their bellies... not good.
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 12:00 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <c51b6b4b-74ce-48f5-943f-0f01371197cc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #478470 |
On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 10:58:18 AM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 10:44:50 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 10:07:23 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > > >> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > > >> > On 11/21/2018 10:27 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > >> >> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > > >> > > > >> >>> Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there. > > >> >>> The vast majority are Linux. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is, > > >> >> propping up a short table leg. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > I got'cher table leg right here... > > >> > > > >> > > >> Nice play on the "short table leg." > > > > > > What's not to like about self deprecating humor? > > > > > > <https://imgur.com/a/sLUNVnt> > > > > John Gohde's got your table leg right here. > > http://i.imgur.com/2N2fCdk.png > > LOL! Even though he's crotchety as f*ck, I kinda feel sorry for JG > at times. I actually admire his thrift-store values, a lot of us are too > into just tossing things... in an endless cycle of polluting the place > as we do. Now whales are coming up on beaches with bunches of > plastic in their bellies... not good. So Prescott Computer Guy changed his story to Klaus Schadenfreude talking about his family. What did Prescott Computer Guy have to say about this miraculous, years long string of oddities? Most of the time he would try to lead Klaus Schadenfreude to trust they're real people who just happened to have not enough brains to see through his lies. Despite all the gloating Prescott Computer Guy has done on this topic, the 'Growth Hacker' does not know how to do this. It literally takes a couple seconds to highlight a selection and 'capitalize' it. But Prescott Computer Guy feels the need to belittle the herd. So be it. -- Best CMS Solution of 2017! http://www.5z8.info/add-worm_z4r9qk_fakelogin http://prescottcomputerguy.com Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | DFS <nospam@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-22 11:04 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <NqAJD.521760$oM2.232882@fx07.iad> |
| In reply to | #478466 |
On 11/21/2018 12:44 PM, owl wrote: > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 10:07:23 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >>>> On 11/21/2018 10:27 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there. >>>>>> The vast majority are Linux. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is, >>>>> propping up a short table leg. >>>> >>>> >>>> I got'cher table leg right here... >>>> >>> >>> Nice play on the "short table leg." >> >> What's not to like about self deprecating humor? >> >> <https://imgur.com/a/sLUNVnt> > > John Gohde's got your table leg right here. > http://i.imgur.com/2N2fCdk.png bwa!
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 09:56 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f92ce261-18fe-4df3-9079-4e3ff0f5a2fb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #478457 |
On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 10:22:49 AM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 10:07:23 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > > DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > > > On 11/21/2018 10:27 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > >> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > > > > > >>> Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there. > > >>> The vast majority are Linux. > > >> > > >> > > >> And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is, > > >> propping up a short table leg. > > > > > > > > > I got'cher table leg right here... > > > > > > > Nice play on the "short table leg." > > What's not to like about self deprecating humor? > > <https://imgur.com/a/sLUNVnt> I am well aware the channel I link to from COLA is merely beginner level; that said, it meets the requirements. In spite of my feelings about openSUSE, I nonetheless continue to load it for clients who have had difficulties with Windows. The "advocates" value the lowest common denominator in both their lives and their computer systems. -- One Smart Penny http://www.5z8.info/stalin-will-rise-again_j3h5uj_nakedgrandmas.jpg https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux/BVpdH5KOc6s Jonas Eklundh
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 17:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <g5mbjaFaif6U5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #478417 |
On 11/21/18 8:27 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: >> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >>> On 11/20/2018 10:42 PM, owl wrote: >>>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >>>>> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a >>>>> Windows screen. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Google has a street view inside of CERN control room. You can walk >>>> around and see about 80 computer screens. I see two or three obvious >>>> windows machines (at login prompt). Where you see other desktops, >>>> *maybe* one was windows. Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort, >>>> but it's hard to tell. It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the >>>> screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's >>>> Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens): >>>> >>>> https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf >>> >>> ======================================================================= >>> >>> Way back when: >>> >>> "CERN has a large Windows 95/NT infrastructure with >>> more than 3500 PCs connected that is used as one of >>> the main information services for the laboratory. This >>> infrastructure is used for a wide set of services, >>> including Office Automation, Computing Aided >>> Engineering, Calculations, Software Development, >>> and ... controls." >>> >>> (note the Access db diagram on pg 5. I wept with pride...) >>> >>> >>> http://conference.kek.jp/PCaPAC99/cdrom/paper/tu/tu5.pdf >>> >>> >>> ======================================================================= >>> 2003: >>> >>> SOFTWARE DEPLOYMENT AND CONFIGURATION OF THE CERN ACCELERATOR CONTROL >>> ROOMS CONSOLES >>> M. Albert, G. Crockford, E. Hatziangeli , S. Lopienski CERN, Geneva, >>> Switzerland >>> >>> https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/ica03/PAPERS/WP533.PDF >>> >>> >>> "These PCs are running Windows 2000 Professional using the NICE >>> computing environment [1] (CERN Windows 2000 client-server architecture). >>> >>> ... >>> >>> Moving away from UNIX X-terminals to Windows based PC consoles required >>> serious changes in the present strategy for software deployment." >>> >> >> I'm suprprised the world survived that era. >> >>> >>> ======================================================================= >>> >>> 2008 >>> >>> "Sliding glass doors part quietly into a large, modern room with >>> [Microsoft W]indows that stretch all the way up to the high ceiling." >>> >> >> Not. >> >>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/embedded-systems/powering-the-large-hadron-collider >>> >>> >>> ======================================================================= >>> >>> 2009 >>> >>> "What operating system do you all use? >>> >>> "A lot of it is Linux-based for the actual control-room infrastructure >>> stuff. There's a lot of coding that's easier to do in Linux, there's a >>> lot of Java applications for the visuals. Operating system-wise, there >>> are a lot of people preferring to use Macs rather than Windows." >>> >>> https://www.cnet.com/news/interview-inside-cern-with-an-lhc-scientist/ >>> >>> ======================================================================= >>> >>> 2012 >>> >>> The Atlas control room. All 8 of the big screens are running Linux >>> (zoom in on the window controls). >>> >>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2353941,6.0557112,2a,90y,273.33h,88.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4v_cqxink5ynRNL3dHje_A!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 >>> >>> ======================================================================= >>> >>> 2012: >>> >>> The main CERN control center. All Windows - except where it's not. >>> >> >> With "where it's not" being practically everywhere. >> >>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2546333,6.0569245,2a,75y,322.71h,83.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIoZWzIfJXwJ-6R8gXKEsrA!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 >>> >>> ======================================================================= >> >> That's the same street view I took the screenshot from. >> >> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.254712,6.0567695,2a,54.7y,261.5h,75.88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHHl0fHKIFBxGx-aBuZwMVg!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 >> >> Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there. >> The vast majority are Linux. > > > And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is, > propping up a short table leg. > What laptop can run only Windows? -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-22 11:41 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <87lg5l1jj6.fsf@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #478528 |
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> writes: > On 11/21/18 8:27 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: >> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >>>> On 11/20/2018 10:42 PM, owl wrote: >>>>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a >>>>>> Windows screen. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Google has a street view inside of CERN control room. You can walk >>>>> around and see about 80 computer screens. I see two or three obvious >>>>> windows machines (at login prompt). Where you see other desktops, >>>>> *maybe* one was windows. Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort, >>>>> but it's hard to tell. It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the >>>>> screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's >>>>> Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens): >>>>> >>>>> https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf >>>> >>>> ======================================================================= >>>> >>>> Way back when: >>>> >>>> "CERN has a large Windows 95/NT infrastructure with >>>> more than 3500 PCs connected that is used as one of >>>> the main information services for the laboratory. This >>>> infrastructure is used for a wide set of services, >>>> including Office Automation, Computing Aided >>>> Engineering, Calculations, Software Development, >>>> and ... controls." >>>> >>>> (note the Access db diagram on pg 5. I wept with pride...) >>>> >>>> >>>> http://conference.kek.jp/PCaPAC99/cdrom/paper/tu/tu5.pdf >>>> >>>> >>>> ======================================================================= >>>> 2003: >>>> >>>> SOFTWARE DEPLOYMENT AND CONFIGURATION OF THE CERN ACCELERATOR CONTROL >>>> ROOMS CONSOLES >>>> M. Albert, G. Crockford, E. Hatziangeli , S. Lopienski CERN, Geneva, >>>> Switzerland >>>> >>>> https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/ica03/PAPERS/WP533.PDF >>>> >>>> >>>> "These PCs are running Windows 2000 Professional using the NICE >>>> computing environment [1] (CERN Windows 2000 client-server architecture). >>>> >>>> ... >>>> >>>> Moving away from UNIX X-terminals to Windows based PC consoles required >>>> serious changes in the present strategy for software deployment." >>>> >>> >>> I'm suprprised the world survived that era. >>> >>>> >>>> ======================================================================= >>>> >>>> 2008 >>>> >>>> "Sliding glass doors part quietly into a large, modern room with >>>> [Microsoft W]indows that stretch all the way up to the high ceiling." >>>> >>> >>> Not. >>> >>>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/embedded-systems/powering-the-large-hadron-collider >>>> >>>> >>>> ======================================================================= >>>> >>>> 2009 >>>> >>>> "What operating system do you all use? >>>> >>>> "A lot of it is Linux-based for the actual control-room infrastructure >>>> stuff. There's a lot of coding that's easier to do in Linux, there's a >>>> lot of Java applications for the visuals. Operating system-wise, there >>>> are a lot of people preferring to use Macs rather than Windows." >>>> >>>> https://www.cnet.com/news/interview-inside-cern-with-an-lhc-scientist/ >>>> >>>> ======================================================================= >>>> >>>> 2012 >>>> >>>> The Atlas control room. All 8 of the big screens are running Linux >>>> (zoom in on the window controls). >>>> >>>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2353941,6.0557112,2a,90y,273.33h,88.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4v_cqxink5ynRNL3dHje_A!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 >>>> >>>> ======================================================================= >>>> >>>> 2012: >>>> >>>> The main CERN control center. All Windows - except where it's not. >>>> >>> >>> With "where it's not" being practically everywhere. >>> >>>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2546333,6.0569245,2a,75y,322.71h,83.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIoZWzIfJXwJ-6R8gXKEsrA!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 >>>> >>>> ======================================================================= >>> >>> That's the same street view I took the screenshot from. >>> >>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.254712,6.0567695,2a,54.7y,261.5h,75.88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHHl0fHKIFBxGx-aBuZwMVg!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 >>> >>> Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there. >>> The vast majority are Linux. >> >> >> And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is, >> propping up a short table leg. >> > > What laptop can run only Windows? The Q is which can run Linux 100%? A few. Thinkpads excellently. But forget it with onboard Nvidia etc unless you're au fait with recovery. Intel HD works a charm with Linux. -- chrisv alias turdv is a turd
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