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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN |
| Date | 2018-11-21 17:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <g5mbjaFaif6U5@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 11/21/18 8:27 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: >> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >>> On 11/20/2018 10:42 PM, owl wrote: >>>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >>>>> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a >>>>> Windows screen. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Google has a street view inside of CERN control room. You can walk >>>> around and see about 80 computer screens. I see two or three obvious >>>> windows machines (at login prompt). Where you see other desktops, >>>> *maybe* one was windows. Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort, >>>> but it's hard to tell. It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the >>>> screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's >>>> Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens): >>>> >>>> https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf >>> >>> ======================================================================= >>> >>> Way back when: >>> >>> "CERN has a large Windows 95/NT infrastructure with >>> more than 3500 PCs connected that is used as one of >>> the main information services for the laboratory. This >>> infrastructure is used for a wide set of services, >>> including Office Automation, Computing Aided >>> Engineering, Calculations, Software Development, >>> and ... controls." >>> >>> (note the Access db diagram on pg 5. I wept with pride...) >>> >>> >>> http://conference.kek.jp/PCaPAC99/cdrom/paper/tu/tu5.pdf >>> >>> >>> ======================================================================= >>> 2003: >>> >>> SOFTWARE DEPLOYMENT AND CONFIGURATION OF THE CERN ACCELERATOR CONTROL >>> ROOMS CONSOLES >>> M. Albert, G. Crockford, E. Hatziangeli , S. Lopienski CERN, Geneva, >>> Switzerland >>> >>> https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/ica03/PAPERS/WP533.PDF >>> >>> >>> "These PCs are running Windows 2000 Professional using the NICE >>> computing environment [1] (CERN Windows 2000 client-server architecture). >>> >>> ... >>> >>> Moving away from UNIX X-terminals to Windows based PC consoles required >>> serious changes in the present strategy for software deployment." >>> >> >> I'm suprprised the world survived that era. >> >>> >>> ======================================================================= >>> >>> 2008 >>> >>> "Sliding glass doors part quietly into a large, modern room with >>> [Microsoft W]indows that stretch all the way up to the high ceiling." >>> >> >> Not. >> >>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/embedded-systems/powering-the-large-hadron-collider >>> >>> >>> ======================================================================= >>> >>> 2009 >>> >>> "What operating system do you all use? >>> >>> "A lot of it is Linux-based for the actual control-room infrastructure >>> stuff. There's a lot of coding that's easier to do in Linux, there's a >>> lot of Java applications for the visuals. Operating system-wise, there >>> are a lot of people preferring to use Macs rather than Windows." >>> >>> https://www.cnet.com/news/interview-inside-cern-with-an-lhc-scientist/ >>> >>> ======================================================================= >>> >>> 2012 >>> >>> The Atlas control room. All 8 of the big screens are running Linux >>> (zoom in on the window controls). >>> >>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2353941,6.0557112,2a,90y,273.33h,88.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4v_cqxink5ynRNL3dHje_A!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 >>> >>> ======================================================================= >>> >>> 2012: >>> >>> The main CERN control center. All Windows - except where it's not. >>> >> >> With "where it's not" being practically everywhere. >> >>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2546333,6.0569245,2a,75y,322.71h,83.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIoZWzIfJXwJ-6R8gXKEsrA!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 >>> >>> ======================================================================= >> >> That's the same street view I took the screenshot from. >> >> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.254712,6.0567695,2a,54.7y,261.5h,75.88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHHl0fHKIFBxGx-aBuZwMVg!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 >> >> Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there. >> The vast majority are Linux. > > > And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is, > propping up a short table leg. > What laptop can run only Windows? -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-20 10:27 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-20 15:36 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-20 21:05 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 03:42 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 20:05 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 06:03 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-21 09:30 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 14:47 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:27 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:49 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-21 11:52 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 17:07 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:22 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 17:44 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:58 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 12:00 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-22 11:04 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:56 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 17:29 -0700
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 11:41 +0100
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 03:17 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-22 12:49 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-22 10:57 -0700
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 11:08 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 13:29 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:47 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 15:34 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 05:23 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:18 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 03:43 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 21:02 -0700
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:44 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-22 10:41 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 08:00 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-22 16:13 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:53 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-23 00:20 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 16:36 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-25 18:26 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 07:22 -0600
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 05:53 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-26 16:23 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 10:55 -0600
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-26 17:06 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 12:06 -0600
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:17 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-26 18:24 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:33 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:49 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 18:55 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 20:53 -0800
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