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Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN

From owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN
Date 2018-11-21 14:47 +0000
Organization O.W.L.
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DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 11/20/2018 10:42 PM, owl wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries.
>>>
>>>
>>> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a
>>> Windows screen.
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> Google has a street view inside of CERN control room.  You can walk
>> around and see about 80 computer screens.  I see two or three obvious
>> windows machines (at login prompt).  Where you see other desktops,
>> *maybe* one was windows.  Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort,
>> but it's hard to tell.  It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the
>> screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's
>> Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens):
>> 
>> https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf
> 
> =======================================================================
> 
> Way back when:
> 
> "CERN has a large Windows 95/NT infrastructure with
> more than 3500 PCs connected that is used as one of
> the main information services for the laboratory. This
> infrastructure is used for a wide set of services,
> including Office Automation, Computing Aided
> Engineering, Calculations, Software Development,
> and ... controls."
> 
> (note the Access db diagram on pg 5.  I wept with pride...)
> 
> 
> http://conference.kek.jp/PCaPAC99/cdrom/paper/tu/tu5.pdf
> 
> 
> =======================================================================
> 2003:
> 
> SOFTWARE DEPLOYMENT AND CONFIGURATION OF THE CERN ACCELERATOR CONTROL 
> ROOMS CONSOLES
> M. Albert, G. Crockford, E. Hatziangeli , S. Lopienski CERN, Geneva, 
> Switzerland
> 
> https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/ica03/PAPERS/WP533.PDF
> 
> 
> "These PCs are running Windows 2000 Professional using the NICE 
> computing environment [1] (CERN Windows 2000 client-server architecture).
> 
> ...
> 
> Moving away from UNIX X-terminals to Windows based PC consoles required 
> serious changes in the present strategy for software deployment."
> 

I'm suprprised the world survived that era.

> 
> =======================================================================
> 
> 2008
> 
> "Sliding glass doors part quietly into a large, modern room with
> [Microsoft W]indows that stretch all the way up to the high ceiling."
> 

Not.

> https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/embedded-systems/powering-the-large-hadron-collider
> 
> 
> =======================================================================
> 
> 2009
> 
> "What operating system do you all use?
> 
> "A lot of it is Linux-based for the actual control-room infrastructure 
> stuff. There's a lot of coding that's easier to do in Linux, there's a 
> lot of Java applications for the visuals. Operating system-wise, there 
> are a lot of people preferring to use Macs rather than Windows."
> 
> https://www.cnet.com/news/interview-inside-cern-with-an-lhc-scientist/
> 
> =======================================================================
> 
> 2012
> 
> The Atlas control room.  All 8 of the big screens are running Linux 
> (zoom in on the window controls).
> 
> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2353941,6.0557112,2a,90y,273.33h,88.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4v_cqxink5ynRNL3dHje_A!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
> 
> =======================================================================
> 
> 2012:
> 
> The main CERN control center.  All Windows - except where it's not.
> 

With "where it's not" being practically everywhere.

> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2546333,6.0569245,2a,75y,322.71h,83.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIoZWzIfJXwJ-6R8gXKEsrA!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
> 
> =======================================================================

That's the same street view I took the screenshot from. 

https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.254712,6.0567695,2a,54.7y,261.5h,75.88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHHl0fHKIFBxGx-aBuZwMVg!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656

Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there.
The vast majority are Linux.

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Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-20 10:27 -0500
  Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-20 15:36 +0000
    Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-20 21:05 -0500
      Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 03:42 +0000
        Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 20:05 -0800
        Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 06:03 -0800
        Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-21 09:30 -0500
          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 14:47 +0000
            Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:27 -0800
              Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:49 -0800
              Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-21 11:52 -0500
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 17:07 +0000
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:22 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 17:44 +0000
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:58 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 12:00 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-22 11:04 -0500
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:56 -0800
              Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 17:29 -0700
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 11:41 +0100
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 03:17 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-22 12:49 -0500
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-22 10:57 -0700
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 11:08 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 13:29 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:47 -0500
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 15:34 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 05:23 -0800
          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:18 -0800
        Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 03:43 +0000
          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 21:02 -0700
          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:44 -0500
        Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-22 10:41 -0500
          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 08:00 -0800
          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-22 16:13 +0000
            Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:53 -0500
              Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-23 00:20 +0000
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 16:36 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-25 18:26 -0500
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 07:22 -0600
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 05:53 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-26 16:23 +0000
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 10:55 -0600
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-26 17:06 +0000
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 12:06 -0600
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:17 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-26 18:24 +0000
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:33 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:49 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 18:55 -0800
      Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 20:53 -0800

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