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| From | Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN |
| Date | 2018-11-22 11:41 +0100 |
| Organization | turdv owners club |
| Message-ID | <87lg5l1jj6.fsf@gmail.com> (permalink) |
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Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> writes: > On 11/21/18 8:27 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: >> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >>>> On 11/20/2018 10:42 PM, owl wrote: >>>>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a >>>>>> Windows screen. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Google has a street view inside of CERN control room. You can walk >>>>> around and see about 80 computer screens. I see two or three obvious >>>>> windows machines (at login prompt). Where you see other desktops, >>>>> *maybe* one was windows. Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort, >>>>> but it's hard to tell. It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the >>>>> screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's >>>>> Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens): >>>>> >>>>> https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf >>>> >>>> ======================================================================= >>>> >>>> Way back when: >>>> >>>> "CERN has a large Windows 95/NT infrastructure with >>>> more than 3500 PCs connected that is used as one of >>>> the main information services for the laboratory. This >>>> infrastructure is used for a wide set of services, >>>> including Office Automation, Computing Aided >>>> Engineering, Calculations, Software Development, >>>> and ... controls." >>>> >>>> (note the Access db diagram on pg 5. I wept with pride...) >>>> >>>> >>>> http://conference.kek.jp/PCaPAC99/cdrom/paper/tu/tu5.pdf >>>> >>>> >>>> ======================================================================= >>>> 2003: >>>> >>>> SOFTWARE DEPLOYMENT AND CONFIGURATION OF THE CERN ACCELERATOR CONTROL >>>> ROOMS CONSOLES >>>> M. Albert, G. Crockford, E. Hatziangeli , S. Lopienski CERN, Geneva, >>>> Switzerland >>>> >>>> https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/ica03/PAPERS/WP533.PDF >>>> >>>> >>>> "These PCs are running Windows 2000 Professional using the NICE >>>> computing environment [1] (CERN Windows 2000 client-server architecture). >>>> >>>> ... >>>> >>>> Moving away from UNIX X-terminals to Windows based PC consoles required >>>> serious changes in the present strategy for software deployment." >>>> >>> >>> I'm suprprised the world survived that era. >>> >>>> >>>> ======================================================================= >>>> >>>> 2008 >>>> >>>> "Sliding glass doors part quietly into a large, modern room with >>>> [Microsoft W]indows that stretch all the way up to the high ceiling." >>>> >>> >>> Not. >>> >>>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/embedded-systems/powering-the-large-hadron-collider >>>> >>>> >>>> ======================================================================= >>>> >>>> 2009 >>>> >>>> "What operating system do you all use? >>>> >>>> "A lot of it is Linux-based for the actual control-room infrastructure >>>> stuff. There's a lot of coding that's easier to do in Linux, there's a >>>> lot of Java applications for the visuals. Operating system-wise, there >>>> are a lot of people preferring to use Macs rather than Windows." >>>> >>>> https://www.cnet.com/news/interview-inside-cern-with-an-lhc-scientist/ >>>> >>>> ======================================================================= >>>> >>>> 2012 >>>> >>>> The Atlas control room. All 8 of the big screens are running Linux >>>> (zoom in on the window controls). >>>> >>>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2353941,6.0557112,2a,90y,273.33h,88.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4v_cqxink5ynRNL3dHje_A!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 >>>> >>>> ======================================================================= >>>> >>>> 2012: >>>> >>>> The main CERN control center. All Windows - except where it's not. >>>> >>> >>> With "where it's not" being practically everywhere. >>> >>>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2546333,6.0569245,2a,75y,322.71h,83.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIoZWzIfJXwJ-6R8gXKEsrA!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 >>>> >>>> ======================================================================= >>> >>> That's the same street view I took the screenshot from. >>> >>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.254712,6.0567695,2a,54.7y,261.5h,75.88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHHl0fHKIFBxGx-aBuZwMVg!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656 >>> >>> Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there. >>> The vast majority are Linux. >> >> >> And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is, >> propping up a short table leg. >> > > What laptop can run only Windows? The Q is which can run Linux 100%? A few. Thinkpads excellently. But forget it with onboard Nvidia etc unless you're au fait with recovery. Intel HD works a charm with Linux. -- chrisv alias turdv is a turd
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Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-20 10:27 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-20 15:36 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-20 21:05 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 03:42 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 20:05 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 06:03 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-21 09:30 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 14:47 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:27 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:49 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-21 11:52 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 17:07 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:22 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 17:44 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:58 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 12:00 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-22 11:04 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:56 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 17:29 -0700
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 11:41 +0100
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 03:17 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-22 12:49 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-22 10:57 -0700
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 11:08 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 13:29 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:47 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 15:34 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 05:23 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:18 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 03:43 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 21:02 -0700
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:44 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-22 10:41 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 08:00 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-22 16:13 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:53 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-23 00:20 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 16:36 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-25 18:26 -0500
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 07:22 -0600
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 05:53 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-26 16:23 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 10:55 -0600
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-26 17:06 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 12:06 -0600
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:17 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-26 18:24 +0000
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:33 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:49 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 18:55 -0800
Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 20:53 -0800
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