Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > comp.os.linux.advocacy > #478611

Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN

From Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN
Date 2018-11-22 11:41 +0100
Organization turdv owners club
Message-ID <87lg5l1jj6.fsf@gmail.com> (permalink)
References (3 earlier) <9t00a8ba.ablhou3@rooftop.invalid> <k%dJD.599346$OM2.498038@fx37.iad> <yz97b9.agu9ag@rooftop.invalid> <f98e7111-a125-4588-81a2-ee6d3f9fd6a9@googlegroups.com> <g5mbjaFaif6U5@mid.individual.net>

Show all headers | View raw


Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> writes:

> On 11/21/18 8:27 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote:
>>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>> On 11/20/2018 10:42 PM, owl wrote:
>>>>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a
>>>>>> Windows screen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Google has a street view inside of CERN control room.  You can walk
>>>>> around and see about 80 computer screens.  I see two or three obvious
>>>>> windows machines (at login prompt).  Where you see other desktops,
>>>>> *maybe* one was windows.  Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort,
>>>>> but it's hard to tell.  It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the
>>>>> screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's
>>>>> Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens):
>>>>>
>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf
>>>>
>>>> =======================================================================
>>>>
>>>> Way back when:
>>>>
>>>> "CERN has a large Windows 95/NT infrastructure with
>>>> more than 3500 PCs connected that is used as one of
>>>> the main information services for the laboratory. This
>>>> infrastructure is used for a wide set of services,
>>>> including Office Automation, Computing Aided
>>>> Engineering, Calculations, Software Development,
>>>> and ... controls."
>>>>
>>>> (note the Access db diagram on pg 5.  I wept with pride...)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://conference.kek.jp/PCaPAC99/cdrom/paper/tu/tu5.pdf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> =======================================================================
>>>> 2003:
>>>>
>>>> SOFTWARE DEPLOYMENT AND CONFIGURATION OF THE CERN ACCELERATOR CONTROL
>>>> ROOMS CONSOLES
>>>> M. Albert, G. Crockford, E. Hatziangeli , S. Lopienski CERN, Geneva,
>>>> Switzerland
>>>>
>>>> https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/ica03/PAPERS/WP533.PDF
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "These PCs are running Windows 2000 Professional using the NICE
>>>> computing environment [1] (CERN Windows 2000 client-server architecture).
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Moving away from UNIX X-terminals to Windows based PC consoles required
>>>> serious changes in the present strategy for software deployment."
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm suprprised the world survived that era.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> =======================================================================
>>>>
>>>> 2008
>>>>
>>>> "Sliding glass doors part quietly into a large, modern room with
>>>> [Microsoft W]indows that stretch all the way up to the high ceiling."
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not.
>>>
>>>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/embedded-systems/powering-the-large-hadron-collider
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> =======================================================================
>>>>
>>>> 2009
>>>>
>>>> "What operating system do you all use?
>>>>
>>>> "A lot of it is Linux-based for the actual control-room infrastructure
>>>> stuff. There's a lot of coding that's easier to do in Linux, there's a
>>>> lot of Java applications for the visuals. Operating system-wise, there
>>>> are a lot of people preferring to use Macs rather than Windows."
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cnet.com/news/interview-inside-cern-with-an-lhc-scientist/
>>>>
>>>> =======================================================================
>>>>
>>>> 2012
>>>>
>>>> The Atlas control room.  All 8 of the big screens are running Linux
>>>> (zoom in on the window controls).
>>>>
>>>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2353941,6.0557112,2a,90y,273.33h,88.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4v_cqxink5ynRNL3dHje_A!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
>>>>
>>>> =======================================================================
>>>>
>>>> 2012:
>>>>
>>>> The main CERN control center.  All Windows - except where it's not.
>>>>
>>>
>>> With "where it's not" being practically everywhere.
>>>
>>>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2546333,6.0569245,2a,75y,322.71h,83.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIoZWzIfJXwJ-6R8gXKEsrA!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
>>>>
>>>> =======================================================================
>>>
>>> That's the same street view I took the screenshot from.
>>>
>>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.254712,6.0567695,2a,54.7y,261.5h,75.88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHHl0fHKIFBxGx-aBuZwMVg!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
>>>
>>> Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there.
>>> The vast majority are Linux.
>>
>>
>> And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is,
>> propping up a short table leg.
>>
>
> What laptop can run only Windows?

The Q is which can run Linux 100%? A few. Thinkpads excellently. But forget
it with onboard Nvidia etc unless you're au fait with recovery. Intel HD
works a charm with Linux.

-- 
chrisv alias turdv is a turd

Back to comp.os.linux.advocacy | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread


Thread

Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-20 10:27 -0500
  Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-20 15:36 +0000
    Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-20 21:05 -0500
      Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 03:42 +0000
        Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 20:05 -0800
        Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 06:03 -0800
        Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-21 09:30 -0500
          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 14:47 +0000
            Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:27 -0800
              Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:49 -0800
              Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-21 11:52 -0500
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 17:07 +0000
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:22 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 17:44 +0000
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:58 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 12:00 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-22 11:04 -0500
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:56 -0800
              Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 17:29 -0700
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 11:41 +0100
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 03:17 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-22 12:49 -0500
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-22 10:57 -0700
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 11:08 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 13:29 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:47 -0500
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 15:34 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 05:23 -0800
          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:18 -0800
        Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 03:43 +0000
          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 21:02 -0700
          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:44 -0500
        Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-22 10:41 -0500
          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 08:00 -0800
          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-22 16:13 +0000
            Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:53 -0500
              Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-23 00:20 +0000
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 16:36 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-25 18:26 -0500
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 07:22 -0600
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 05:53 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-26 16:23 +0000
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 10:55 -0600
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-26 17:06 +0000
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 12:06 -0600
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:17 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-26 18:24 +0000
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:33 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:49 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 18:55 -0800
      Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 20:53 -0800

csiph-web