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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home |
| Date | 2015-11-04 20:19 +0000 |
| Organization | O.W.L. |
| Message-ID | <fhdsu03.faef@rooftop.invalid> (permalink) |
| References | (6 earlier) <D25F9D47.62B48%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <ghnvmdie9.3a@rooftop.invalid> <D25FA62B.62B5B%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <s968y.jhkfi@rooftop.invalid> <D25FB188.62B6B%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > On 11/4/15, 12:28 PM, in article s968y.jhkfi@rooftop.invalid, "owl" > <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > > ... >>>> "At that point"? That "point" was the start of the discussion. >>> >>> OK, you have nothing to add to a conversation about Native Americans. I can >>> accept that. >> >> I'm a Native American. My ancestors were German/Swiss, but I was born >> here. That makes me a native. > > Word play can be fun, sure. But not useful for the discussion. > >>>>> You do not accept the very concept being used... there is no way to go >>>>> forward. >>>> >>>> Sure there is. Defend the definition. If you cannot defend the definition, >>>> then you must accept that it is wrong. >>> >>> They are the natives. Europeans and others are not. Done. >> >> Anyone born in the US is a Native American. Period. > > Again, not accurate. > >>> This, of course, does not imply that long ago in history they also did not >>> come from other places - but if you go back far enough we all came from the >>> Big Bang (or whatever started our universe... and, heck, if there is a >>> before that then we can go back even earlier). Such regressions into forever >>> take us nowhere. >>> >>>>>> All the so-called "Native Americans" are descendants of people who >>>>>> themselves migrated here. The only true "Native Americans" are people >>>>>> who were born in America. Period. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe the word "indigenous" would help you to understand what is meant by a >>>>> Native American? >>>> >>>> I am indigenous to the US. Are you? >>> >>> No, I am a European American, born in the US but none of my >>> great-grandparents were. I am not indigenous to the Americas. >> >> Yes, you are. > > Nope. > >>> Apparently >>> GreyCloud is... or so he claims and I have no reason to doubt. >>> >>> So for those who want all the illegal foreigners gone, he gets to stay and >>> we all have to leave. :) >> >> You are wrong. "Born here" == "Native" > > Nice word play! But not useful. > It doesn't matter if you have a use for the truth or not. It still hurts, I see.
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More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 16:03 -0800
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 17:36 -0800
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 19:25 -0800
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-03 19:24 -0700
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 19:23 -0800
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-04 17:09 -0700
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-05 13:02 -0700
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-06 16:32 -0700
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-06 19:53 -0700
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-04 02:33 +0000
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-04 03:10 +0000
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-11-04 06:49 -0800
These nice native Americans started the blood bath, first John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 07:08 -0800
Re: These nice native Americans started the blood bath, first Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 07:34 -0800
I always knew that Steve Carroll was tard. Thanks for proving it, once again. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 13:12 -0800
Re: These nice native Americans started the blood bath, first -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-11-04 14:52 -0800
Re: These nice native Americans started the blood bath, first John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 16:15 -0800
Re: These nice native Americans started the blood bath, first Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 17:26 -0800
Re: These nice native Americans started the blood bath, first DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-05 09:32 -0500
the Native Americans, as represented by the Aztec, being butchered and exterminated by the Spaniards was a good thing. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 02:21 -0800
Re: the Native Americans, as represented by the Aztec, being butchered and exterminated by the Spaniards was a good thing. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-05 11:39 +0100
Re: the Native Americans, as represented by the Aztec, being butchered and exterminated by the Spaniards was a good thing. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-11-05 07:18 -0800
Re: the Native Americans, as represented by the Aztec, being butchered and exterminated by the Spaniards was a good thing. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 07:47 -0800
Re: the Native Americans, as represented by the Aztec, being butchered and exterminated by the Spaniards was a good thing. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-05 17:49 +0100
Re: the Native Americans, as represented by the Aztec, being butchered and exterminated by the Spaniards was a good thing. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 08:57 -0800
Re: the Native Americans, as represented by the Aztec, being butchered and exterminated by the Spaniards was a good thing. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 22:23 +0000
Re: the Native Americans, as represented by the Aztec, being butchered and exterminated by the Spaniards was a good thing. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 22:16 +0000
Re: the Native Americans, as represented by the Aztec, being butchered and exterminated by the Spaniards was a good thing. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-11-05 14:53 -0800
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-04 17:55 +0000
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-04 18:23 +0000
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-04 19:00 +0000
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-04 19:28 +0000
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-04 20:19 +0000
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-04 20:34 +0000
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-04 20:53 +0000
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-04 22:08 +0000
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 13:13 -0800
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-04 16:18 -0500
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 12:06 -0800
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-11-04 14:30 -0800
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-04 22:47 +0000
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-04 17:12 -0700
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-04 20:38 -0500
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 21:26 -0500
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 21:25 -0800
Re: More than 350 languages spoken in U.S.; 54 percent of Los Angeles shuns English at home JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-04 14:21 -0600
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