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Started byErilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
First post2014-01-28 20:00 +0000
Last post2014-02-01 04:36 -0800
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  maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-28 20:00 +0000
    Re: maps? Pat <pat@nospam.us> - 2014-01-28 15:16 -0500
    Re: maps? Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-01-28 12:19 -0800
      Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-28 21:39 +0000
      Re: maps? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-01-28 21:39 -0500
        Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-28 20:11 -0800
          Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 06:10 -0500
            Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 07:48 -0800
              Re: maps? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-29 16:11 +0000
                Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 08:44 -0800
                Re: maps? David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-01-29 12:53 -0500
                  Re: maps? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-29 17:58 +0000
                    Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:23 -0500
                  Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-30 00:30 +0000
                  Re: maps? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 13:44 +0000
              Re: maps? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-01-29 13:39 -0500
              Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:23 -0500
                Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 11:31 -0800
            Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-30 00:14 +0000
              Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 23:17 -0500
                Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-30 15:05 +0000
          Re: maps? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-29 15:06 +0000
            Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-30 00:14 +0000
              Re: maps? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 03:01 +0000
        Re: maps? Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2014-01-29 14:05 +0000
          Re: maps? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-29 15:14 +0000
      Re: maps? "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2014-01-29 12:34 +0000
        Re: maps? Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 10:34 -0800
          Re: maps? "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2014-01-29 19:26 +0000
      Re: maps? David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-01-29 12:49 -0500
    Re: maps? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-28 20:37 +0000
      Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-28 21:39 +0000
    Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-28 12:50 -0800
      Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-28 21:39 +0000
      Re: maps? Wilf <wilf@replyto.newsgroup> - 2014-01-29 01:24 +0000
        Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-28 17:31 -0800
          Re: maps? Recliner <recliner2-news@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-28 19:42 -0600
            Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-28 17:59 -0800
              Re: maps? Recliner <recliner2-news@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-28 20:14 -0600
            Re: maps? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-29 16:07 +0000
              Re: maps? Recliner <recliner2-news@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-29 10:20 -0600
                Re: maps? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 13:37 +0000
          Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 06:10 -0500
            Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 07:50 -0800
              Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:23 -0500
                Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 11:30 -0800
                  Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:53 -0500
                    Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 12:01 -0800
                      Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 15:15 -0500
                        Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 12:55 -0800
                          Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 16:39 -0500
                            Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 14:16 -0800
                              Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 18:54 -0500
                                Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 17:40 -0800
                                  Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 23:17 -0500
                                  Re: maps? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 13:53 +0000
                                    Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-30 15:05 +0000
                                    Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 08:53 -0800
                                    Re: maps? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-30 17:36 -0800
                                      Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-31 02:17 -0500
                                        Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-31 07:24 -0800
                                          Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-01 16:05 -0500
                                            Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-01 15:39 -0800
                                              Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-02 12:47 -0500
                                Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 08:53 -0800
                                  Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-30 13:49 -0500
                                    Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 11:51 -0800
                                      Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-30 16:36 -0500
                                        Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 14:05 -0800
                                          Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-31 02:17 -0500
                                            Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-31 07:25 -0800
                                              Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-31 21:42 +0000
                                                Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-31 14:31 -0800
                                                  Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-01 16:30 +0000
                                              Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-01 16:05 -0500
                                                Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-01 15:41 -0800
                                                  Re: maps? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-02 05:02 +0000
                                                    Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-02 12:46 -0500
                                                  Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-02 12:46 -0500
                                                    Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-02 10:37 -0800
                                                      Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-02 14:06 -0500
                                                        Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-02 12:10 -0800
                                                          Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-02 17:59 -0500
                                                            Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-02 21:02 -0800
                                                              Re: maps? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-02-03 00:37 -0500
                                                                Re: maps? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-03 18:59 +1100
                                                                  Re: maps? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-02-03 08:33 -0500
                                                                Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-03 05:57 -0800
                                                                Re: maps? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-03 14:09 +0000
                                                                  Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-03 12:28 -0500
                                                                  Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-03 19:33 +0000
                                                                    Re: maps? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-02-03 18:53 -0500
                                                                      Re: maps? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-04 00:02 +0000
                                                                      Re: maps? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 07:55 -0700
                                                                        Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-04 17:01 +0000
                                                                        Re: maps? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-05 06:06 +1100
                                                                          Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-05 21:27 +0000
                                                                            Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 14:05 -0800
                                                                              Re: maps? Neil Ellwood <cral.elllwood2@btopenworld.com> - 2014-02-06 06:22 -0600
                                                                                Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 06:17 -0800
                                                                              Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-06 23:59 +0000
                                                                            Re: maps? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-05 22:09 +0000
                                                                              Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-06 23:59 +0000
                                                                                Re: maps? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-07 01:23 +0000
                                                                                  Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-07 03:13 +0000
                                                                                    Re: maps? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-07 03:42 +0000
                                                                                      Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-07 15:40 +0000
                                                                                    Re: maps? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-02-06 20:15 -0800
                                                                                Re: maps? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-02-06 20:14 -0800
                                                                                  Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-07 15:40 +0000
                                                                              Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-06 23:59 +0000
                                                                                Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-06 19:37 -0500
                                                                                  Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-07 03:13 +0000
                                                                                  Re: maps? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-02-06 20:33 -0800
                                                                                    Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-07 15:40 +0000
                                                                                      Re: maps? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-02-08 12:43 +1300
                                                                                        Re: maps? "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2014-02-08 08:09 +0000
                                                                                          Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-10 01:30 +0000
                                                                                            Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-10 16:26 +0000
                                                                                      Re: maps? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-02-08 14:12 -0800
                                                                                        Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-10 01:30 +0000
                                                                                Re: maps? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-02-06 22:46 -0500
                                                                                  Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-07 15:40 +0000
                                                                                  Re: maps? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-07 17:14 +0000
                                                                                Re: maps? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-02-08 14:07 -0800
                                                                              Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-06 23:59 +0000
                                                                                Re: maps? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-07 01:35 +0000
                                                                                  Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-07 03:13 +0000
                                                                                Re: maps? "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2014-02-07 11:10 +0000
                                                                                  Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-07 15:40 +0000
                                                                                    Re: maps? "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2014-02-07 19:04 +0000
                                                                                      Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-10 01:30 +0000
                                                                                        Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-10 16:26 +0000
                                                                            Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-05 17:11 -0500
                                                                              Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-06 22:39 +0000
                                                                                Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-06 19:37 -0500
                                                                                  Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-07 03:13 +0000
                                                                                    Re: maps? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-02-06 20:42 -0800
                                                              Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-03 12:28 -0500
                                                                Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-03 09:51 -0800
                                                                  Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-03 17:24 -0500
                                                                    Re: maps? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-03 15:01 -0800
                                                                      Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-03 23:46 -0500
                                                                  Re: maps? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-02-06 20:55 -0800
                      Re: maps? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 13:48 +0000
        Re: maps? AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2014-01-28 22:27 -0500
        Re: maps? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-28 20:28 -0700
    Re: maps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 06:10 -0500
    Re: maps? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-29 16:06 +0000
      Re: maps? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-29 17:44 +0000
      Re: maps? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-30 00:30 +0000
    Re: maps? manishsony1973@gmail.com - 2014-02-01 04:36 -0800

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#30403

FromDoug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Date2014-01-31 07:24 -0800
Message-ID<83ob2stbr3.fsf@ethel.the.log>
In reply to#30401
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:

> In article <201401301736086853-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck
> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> 
> > >> Have you heard of any app that has the option of hooking into Google
> > >> Maps?
> > > 
> > > I just checked, and Foursquare does.
> > > 
> > > If you tap on the map for a location, and then tap "Directions" it will
> > > ask, "Which app do you want to use?"
> > > 
> > >   * Use Apple Maps
> > >   * Use Google Maps
> > >   * Cancel
> > > 
> > > (assuming you have both installed, of course)
> > 
> > MotionX GPS HD gives you the option to select between MotionX maps, 
> > Bing Maps, Apple Maps, Google Maps, & NOAA Marine experimental maps.
> > < https://db.tt/kl0Oepr2 >
> > < http://gps.motionx.com/ipad/overview/ >
> 
> and that makes it two apps so far that support it, despite a certain
> someone saying no apps support it and no such feature exists.

I asserted that if you click on an address, your iPad opens Apple
Maps, not Google Maps.

Your response was "not necessarily," so I asked for an example.
You've come up with no examples.

Though you've written post after post about Google APIs (which I
didn't ask about), about how it isn't Apple's fault things work this
way (which I don't care about) and various other distractions from the
fact that you were simply wrong to say "not necessarily."  As of the
present, it _is_ "necessarily."

Neither of the apps mentioned provides an example of this either,
though both use Google's map data.

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#30424

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-02-01 16:05 -0500
Message-ID<010220141605162480%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#30403
In article <83ob2stbr3.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
<ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > >> Have you heard of any app that has the option of hooking into Google
> > > >> Maps?
> > > > 
> > > > I just checked, and Foursquare does.
> > > > 
> > > > If you tap on the map for a location, and then tap "Directions" it will
> > > > ask, "Which app do you want to use?"
> > > > 
> > > >   * Use Apple Maps
> > > >   * Use Google Maps
> > > >   * Cancel
> > > > 
> > > > (assuming you have both installed, of course)
> > > 
> > > MotionX GPS HD gives you the option to select between MotionX maps, 
> > > Bing Maps, Apple Maps, Google Maps, & NOAA Marine experimental maps.
> > > < https://db.tt/kl0Oepr2 >
> > > < http://gps.motionx.com/ipad/overview/ >
> > 
> > and that makes it two apps so far that support it, despite a certain
> > someone saying no apps support it and no such feature exists.
> 
> I asserted that if you click on an address, your iPad opens Apple
> Maps, not Google Maps.
> 
> Your response was "not necessarily," 

which is correct.

there is an api to support third party map apps, therefore there can be
situations in which you tap on a link and it can open in google maps. 

that's what 'not necessarily' means.

> so I asked for an example.
> You've come up with no examples.

whether or not there are apps is not at all relevant, no matter how
hard you say otherwise.

in fact, an app doesn't even have to support linking to *apple's* maps
app if it chooses not to, despite there being an api to do so.

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#30428

FromDoug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Date2014-02-01 15:39 -0800
Message-ID<wqa9eas8rp.fsf@ethel.the.log>
In reply to#30424
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:

> In article <83ob2stbr3.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > >> Have you heard of any app that has the option of hooking into Google
> > > > >> Maps?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I just checked, and Foursquare does.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you tap on the map for a location, and then tap "Directions" it will
> > > > > ask, "Which app do you want to use?"
> > > > > 
> > > > >   * Use Apple Maps
> > > > >   * Use Google Maps
> > > > >   * Cancel
> > > > > 
> > > > > (assuming you have both installed, of course)
> > > > 
> > > > MotionX GPS HD gives you the option to select between MotionX maps, 
> > > > Bing Maps, Apple Maps, Google Maps, & NOAA Marine experimental maps.
> > > > < https://db.tt/kl0Oepr2 >
> > > > < http://gps.motionx.com/ipad/overview/ >
> > > 
> > > and that makes it two apps so far that support it, despite a certain
> > > someone saying no apps support it and no such feature exists.
> > 
> > I asserted that if you click on an address, your iPad opens Apple
> > Maps, not Google Maps.
> > 
> > Your response was "not necessarily," 
> 
> which is correct.

Incorrect unless there are apps that actually open Google Maps when
you click on an address.

No evidence of such an app yet.

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#30454

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-02-02 12:47 -0500
Message-ID<020220141247001502%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#30428
In article <wqa9eas8rp.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
<ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > I asserted that if you click on an address, your iPad opens Apple
> > > Maps, not Google Maps.
> > > 
> > > Your response was "not necessarily," 
> > 
> > which is correct.
> 
> Incorrect unless there are apps that actually open Google Maps when
> you click on an address.

then you do not understand what not necessarily means.

> No evidence of such an app yet.

yes there is, but as usual, you ignore anything that contradicts your
beliefs. 

and as i said before, existence of an app is *irrelevant*. the
mechanism by which it can be done exists and that's sufficient.

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#30388

FromDoug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Date2014-01-30 08:53 -0800
Message-ID<lbnytbedm.fsf@ethel.the.log>
In reply to#30364
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:

> In article <f1sis6bfin.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > > > > the fact is that the functionality exists and anyone can use it.
> > > > > > > many apps already have.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > But you can't name a _single_ app that has this functionality?
> > > > > 
> > > > > i don't keep track of who uses google's apis. ask google. maybe they
> > > > > know.
> > > > 
> > > > So wait - you are sure this functionality exists in some apps.  But
> > > > you don't know a single app in which it exists?
> > > > 
> > > > You have a much lower threshold for certainty than I do.
> > > 
> > > it's common sense.
> > 
> > Common sense to imagine apps have a functionality.  Even though you've
> > never heard of an app with that functionality.
> 
> i've heard of many apps that use google's various apis (not just that
> one). 

But that isn't the question.  You assserted that there were apps that
used _that_ sdk.

Apparently that assertion was simply an invention.  (Or, more
directly, a lie.)

I don't know why except out of a general desire to be evasive you
bring up _other_ google apis.

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#30394

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-01-30 13:49 -0500
Message-ID<300120141349466790%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#30388
In article <lbnytbedm.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
<ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Common sense to imagine apps have a functionality.  Even though you've
> > > never heard of an app with that functionality.
> > 
> > i've heard of many apps that use google's various apis (not just that
> > one). 
> 
> But that isn't the question.  You assserted that there were apps that
> used _that_ sdk.
>
> Apparently that assertion was simply an invention.  (Or, more
> directly, a lie.)

nothing of the sort. 

you just hate when facts shatter your ridiculous preconceived ideas.

> I don't know why except out of a general desire to be evasive you
> bring up _other_ google apis.

there are *many* apis available for ios app developers, from apple and
third parties, and i do *not* keep track of which apps use which apis.

if that interests you, then you are more than welcome to start a
database and maintain it. some people might even pay for that
information.

anyway, you asked for an app to find out how to use the feature, but
since how it works is up to the app developer, every app will be
different. 

if the feature exists in an app, there will be a way to invoke it. it's
that simple. no point in overcomplicating it.

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#30395

FromDoug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Date2014-01-30 11:51 -0800
Message-ID<smlhxx9rk3.fsf@ethel.the.log>
In reply to#30394
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:

> In article <lbnytbedm.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > Common sense to imagine apps have a functionality.  Even though you've
> > > > never heard of an app with that functionality.
> > > 
> > > i've heard of many apps that use google's various apis (not just that
> > > one). 
> > 
> > But that isn't the question.  You assserted that there were apps that
> > used _that_ sdk.
> >
> > Apparently that assertion was simply an invention.  (Or, more
> > directly, a lie.)
> 
> nothing of the sort. 
> 
> you just hate when facts shatter your ridiculous preconceived ideas.

Facts?  You wrote:

> not always. google has an sdk that some apps support and you can open a
> link in the google maps app instead of apple's.

I ask you for an example of such an app and you start spouting about
how there are thousands of apps, and google has many apis.  

Anything not to admit that you don't know of a single example and in
fact there could be no examples.

For post after post.

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#30396

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-01-30 16:36 -0500
Message-ID<300120141636347269%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#30395
In article <smlhxx9rk3.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
<ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > But that isn't the question.  You assserted that there were apps that
> > > used _that_ sdk.
> > >
> > > Apparently that assertion was simply an invention.  (Or, more
> > > directly, a lie.)
> > 
> > nothing of the sort. 
> > 
> > you just hate when facts shatter your ridiculous preconceived ideas.
> 
> Facts?  You wrote:
> 
> > not always. google has an sdk that some apps support and you can open a
> > link in the google maps app instead of apple's.

that is 100% correct. 

you asked for more details so i provided a link to the url scheme,
which proves without any doubt that what i said was 100% correct. 

like i said, you don't like actual facts.

> I ask you for an example of such an app and you start spouting about
> how there are thousands of apps, and google has many apis.  

i never said there were thousands of apps.

you made that up.

i linked to google's url scheme, which proves beyond any doubt that the
functionality exists, no matter how much you refuse to believe it.

i mentioned google's other apis to point out that app developers can
use a wide variety of apis in their apps. whether a particular app uses
any of them is up to the app developer. 

> Anything not to admit that you don't know of a single example and in
> fact there could be no examples.

how many apps currently implement it is completely irrelevant. 

what matters is that there are ways to link to map apps *other* than
apple's map app. again, this is a *fact*, despite what you may believe.

it's also mind-numbingly simple to do too.

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#30397

FromDoug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Date2014-01-30 14:05 -0800
Message-ID<90eh3pdt15.fsf@ethel.the.log>
In reply to#30396
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:

> In article <smlhxx9rk3.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:

(snip)

> > Anything not to admit that you don't know of a single example and in
> > fact there could be no examples.
> 
> how many apps currently implement it is completely irrelevant. 

Of course it is.  If no apps implement it, then the capability does
not exist for users.

> 
> what matters is that there are ways to link to map apps *other* than
> apple's map app. again, this is a *fact*, despite what you may
> believe.

This is where you come up against your inability to admit that you
were wrong.

There are not ways to do this for a user.

A user must cut and paste as I said.

The fact that there is an SDK means that a developer might someday
write an application that allows this.  But the situation of today is
that a user must cut and paste.

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#30400

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-01-31 02:17 -0500
Message-ID<310120140217197980%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#30397
In article <90eh3pdt15.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
<ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Anything not to admit that you don't know of a single example and in
> > > fact there could be no examples.
> > 
> > how many apps currently implement it is completely irrelevant. 
> 
> Of course it is.  If no apps implement it, then the capability does
> not exist for users.

irrelevant. 

the ability for one app to link to another app is available for anyone
to use.

apple is not blocking anything. 

> > what matters is that there are ways to link to map apps *other* than
> > apple's map app. again, this is a *fact*, despite what you may
> > believe.
> 
> This is where you come up against your inability to admit that you
> were wrong.

nothing i said was incorrect. absolutely *nothing*. 

i said that apps can link to apps other than apple's maps app and that
is 100% correct. i even provided a link how it's done.

perhaps it's too technical for you to understand. there' nothing wrong
with that. not everyone understands how to write ios apps.

just don't tell someone they're wrong when you haven't any clue about
what you're talking about. 

> There are not ways to do this for a user.

yes there are, and you were told of not just one app that currently
implements it, but *two* so far. 

therefore, you are lying.

> A user must cut and paste as I said.

as i said, not necessarily. 

although cut/paste will usually work (but not always), an app *can*
link to google's maps app as well as other maps apps.

and it's not limited to just maps either.

any app can create its own custom url scheme for just about anything,
and then other apps can use it if it's appropriate.

> The fact that there is an SDK means that a developer might someday
> write an application that allows this.  But the situation of today is
> that a user must cut and paste.

bullshit.

others have already mentioned *two* apps that support google's url
scheme, so not only are you stubbornly refusing to admit *you* were
wrong, but you are also lying. 

furthermore, one of those apps supports *other* maps in addition to
google's maps.

it's not the first time you've ignored facts and sadly, it will not be
the last.

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#30404

FromDoug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Date2014-01-31 07:25 -0800
Message-ID<j1iot0tbpl.fsf@ethel.the.log>
In reply to#30400
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:

> In article <90eh3pdt15.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > Anything not to admit that you don't know of a single example and in
> > > > fact there could be no examples.
> > > 
> > > how many apps currently implement it is completely irrelevant. 
> > 
> > Of course it is.  If no apps implement it, then the capability does
> > not exist for users.
> 
> irrelevant. 

It is relevant.

I asserted that if you click on an address, Apple Maps opens, and not
Google Maps.

You said "not necessarily" but you're wrong.

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#30405

FromErilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
Date2014-01-31 21:42 +0000
Message-ID<lch5bo$k7u$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30404
Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:
> 
>> In article <90eh3pdt15.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
>> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> Anything not to admit that you don't know of a single example and in
>>>>> fact there could be no examples.
>>>> 
>>>> how many apps currently implement it is completely irrelevant. 
>>> 
>>> Of course it is.  If no apps implement it, then the capability does
>>> not exist for users.
>> 
>> irrelevant. 
> 
> It is relevant.
> 
> I asserted that if you click on an address, Apple Maps opens, and not
> Google Maps.
> 
> You said "not necessarily" but you're wrong.

OK, what if I feed an address to googlemaps in my browser?

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#30406

FromDoug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Date2014-01-31 14:31 -0800
Message-ID<fb8utvn5qn.fsf@ethel.the.log>
In reply to#30405
Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> writes:

> Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:
> > 
> >> In article <90eh3pdt15.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
> >> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>>>> Anything not to admit that you don't know of a single example and in
> >>>>> fact there could be no examples.
> >>>> 
> >>>> how many apps currently implement it is completely irrelevant. 
> >>> 
> >>> Of course it is.  If no apps implement it, then the capability does
> >>> not exist for users.
> >> 
> >> irrelevant. 
> > 
> > It is relevant.
> > 
> > I asserted that if you click on an address, Apple Maps opens, and not
> > Google Maps.
> > 
> > You said "not necessarily" but you're wrong.
> 
> OK, what if I feed an address to googlemaps in my browser?

You can certainly open Google Maps in your browser and either type in
or paste in an address.

I like Google's Maps App better, so I would instead open that App and
type in the address or paste it in, if I wanted Google Maps.

If I am happy using Apple Maps, I can often click the address in my
browser.

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#30414

FromErilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
Date2014-02-01 16:30 +0000
Message-ID<lcj7f8$3mo$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30406
Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> writes:
> 
>> Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:
>>> 
>>>> In article <90eh3pdt15.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
>>>> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anything not to admit that you don't know of a single example and in
>>>>>>> fact there could be no examples.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> how many apps currently implement it is completely irrelevant. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of course it is.  If no apps implement it, then the capability does
>>>>> not exist for users.
>>>> 
>>>> irrelevant. 
>>> 
>>> It is relevant.
>>> 
>>> I asserted that if you click on an address, Apple Maps opens, and not
>>> Google Maps.
>>> 
>>> You said "not necessarily" but you're wrong.
>> 
>> OK, what if I feed an address to googlemaps in my browser?
> 
> You can certainly open Google Maps in your browser and either type in
> or paste in an address.
> 
> I like Google's Maps App better, so I would instead open that App and
> type in the address or paste it in, if I wanted Google Maps.
> 
> If I am happy using Apple Maps, I can often click the address in my
> browser.

I like dedicated maps app better than the browser version, except that it
keeps my map collections for it.  I plan to spend considerable time playing
with both apps once I start setting up the Air.
-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#30425

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-02-01 16:05 -0500
Message-ID<010220141605172572%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#30404
In article <j1iot0tbpl.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
<ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > Anything not to admit that you don't know of a single example and in
> > > > > fact there could be no examples.
> > > > 
> > > > how many apps currently implement it is completely irrelevant. 
> > > 
> > > Of course it is.  If no apps implement it, then the capability does
> > > not exist for users.
> > 
> > irrelevant. 
> 
> It is relevant.
> 
> I asserted that if you click on an address, Apple Maps opens, and not
> Google Maps.
> 
> You said "not necessarily" but you're wrong.

the only thing wrong is your lack of understanding of english.

not only did i show you how it's done (which by itself proves what i
said is correct) but two other people gave you examples.

that makes *you* the one who is wrong.

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#30429

FromDoug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Date2014-02-01 15:41 -0800
Message-ID<rm4n4is8nj.fsf@ethel.the.log>
In reply to#30425
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:

> In article <j1iot0tbpl.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > > > Anything not to admit that you don't know of a single example and in
> > > > > > fact there could be no examples.
> > > > > 
> > > > > how many apps currently implement it is completely irrelevant. 
> > > > 
> > > > Of course it is.  If no apps implement it, then the capability does
> > > > not exist for users.
> > > 
> > > irrelevant. 
> > 
> > It is relevant.
> > 
> > I asserted that if you click on an address, Apple Maps opens, and not
> > Google Maps.
> > 
> > You said "not necessarily" but you're wrong.
> 
> the only thing wrong is your lack of understanding of english.
> 
> not only did i show you how it's done (which by itself proves what i
> said is correct) but two other people gave you examples.

No, they gave examples of apps that use Google's map data.  That is
different from opening Google's Maps App when you click on an address.
 
> that makes *you* the one who is wrong.

I'm sure you can find words to put in my mouth that you will say I'm
wrong about.

But my assertion that if you click on an address, Apple Maps opens, and not
Google Maps is correct.

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#30435

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-02-02 05:02 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlerkbq.bbn.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#30429
In message <rm4n4is8nj.fsf@ethel.the.log> 
  Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:

>> In article <j1iot0tbpl.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
>> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > > > > > Anything not to admit that you don't know of a single example and in
>> > > > > > fact there could be no examples.
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > how many apps currently implement it is completely irrelevant. 
>> > > > 
>> > > > Of course it is.  If no apps implement it, then the capability does
>> > > > not exist for users.
>> > > 
>> > > irrelevant. 
>> > 
>> > It is relevant.
>> > 
>> > I asserted that if you click on an address, Apple Maps opens, and not
>> > Google Maps.
>> > 
>> > You said "not necessarily" but you're wrong.
>> 
>> the only thing wrong is your lack of understanding of english.
>> 
>> not only did i show you how it's done (which by itself proves what i
>> said is correct) but two other people gave you examples.

> No, they gave examples of apps that use Google's map data.  That is
> different from opening Google's Maps App when you click on an address.

Well, no, Foursquare will open the location for directions using Google
Maps. Not the same as clicking an address, but it is not "using
Google's map data" it is allowing you to send the location to either
Apple Maps or Google Maps for direction routing.

-- 
Maybe I should have seen it as some kind of sign, except I don't believe
in them no more; no no, but I believe these things I can't forget, tho I
don't see you anymore.

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#30452

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-02-02 12:46 -0500
Message-ID<020220141246561262%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#30435
In article <slrnlerkbq.bbn.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> >> not only did i show you how it's done (which by itself proves what i
> >> said is correct) but two other people gave you examples.
> 
> > No, they gave examples of apps that use Google's map data.  That is
> > different from opening Google's Maps App when you click on an address.

like i said, you refuse to believe facts. 

> Well, no, Foursquare will open the location for directions using Google
> Maps. Not the same as clicking an address, but it is not "using
> Google's map data" it is allowing you to send the location to either
> Apple Maps or Google Maps for direction routing.

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#30453

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-02-02 12:46 -0500
Message-ID<020220141246581370%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#30429
In article <rm4n4is8nj.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
<ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > I asserted that if you click on an address, Apple Maps opens, and not
> > > Google Maps.
> > > 
> > > You said "not necessarily" but you're wrong.
> > 
> > the only thing wrong is your lack of understanding of english.
> > 
> > not only did i show you how it's done (which by itself proves what i
> > said is correct) but two other people gave you examples.
> 
> No, they gave examples of apps that use Google's map data.  That is
> different from opening Google's Maps App when you click on an address.

nope. 

as has been said numerous times, it is not only possible, but it is
incredibly easy to implement.

if you want to see just how simple it is to do it, launch safari and
type:
 comgooglemaps://?0,0
into the address bar, then hit return and it will do what you say
cannot be done. 

putting that functionality into an app is ridiculously simple, and as
others have shown, does in fact exist in apps, despite your beliefs to
the contrary.

which goes back to what i said before:
> > that makes *you* the one who is wrong.
> 
> I'm sure you can find words to put in my mouth that you will say I'm
> wrong about.

there's no need. you supply them yourself with abundance and regularity.

> But my assertion that if you click on an address, Apple Maps opens, and not
> Google Maps is correct.

again, not necessarily.

since there is a way for a link to open a *different* maps app (or even
nothing at all, another detail you are ignoring), it is *not* correct.

it *usually* opens apple's maps app, but it is not a certainty.

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#30458

FromDoug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Date2014-02-02 10:37 -0800
Message-ID<mjzjm9xsws.fsf@ethel.the.log>
In reply to#30453
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:

> In article <rm4n4is8nj.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > I asserted that if you click on an address, Apple Maps opens, and not
> > > > Google Maps.
> > > > 
> > > > You said "not necessarily" but you're wrong.
> > > 
> > > the only thing wrong is your lack of understanding of english.
> > > 
> > > not only did i show you how it's done (which by itself proves what i
> > > said is correct) but two other people gave you examples.
> > 
> > No, they gave examples of apps that use Google's map data.  That is
> > different from opening Google's Maps App when you click on an address.
> 
> nope. 
> 
> as has been said numerous times, it is not only possible, but it is
> incredibly easy to implement.
> 
> if you want to see just how simple it is to do it, launch safari and
> type:
>  comgooglemaps://?0,0
> into the address bar, then hit return and it will do what you say
> cannot be done. 

It is easy to open Google Maps by all sorts of strategies, including
that bizarre one.

That doesn't allow the use to click on an address in Safari and have
it open in Google Maps as you claimed users could.

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