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EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Isaac Montara <IsaacMontara@nospam.com> - 2025-01-03 00:09 -0500
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2025-01-03 09:47 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-03 10:04 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2025-01-03 10:08 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-03 11:33 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 13:12 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-03 19:03 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 11:22 -0800
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-01-08 13:46 -0500
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 13:12 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 10:14 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-01-03 10:29 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 13:20 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-03 19:07 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 11:22 -0800
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Pamela <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 16:17 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-05 16:29 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 16:45 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2025-01-05 17:25 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 17:33 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2025-01-05 17:44 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 17:47 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2025-01-05 18:05 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-01-05 20:19 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2025-01-05 20:44 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-01-06 10:15 +1300
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-05 22:29 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-08 21:02 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-08 12:20 -0800
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-08 22:44 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-08 20:37 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2025-01-08 20:44 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-08 22:57 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-09 16:22 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-09 20:46 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-09 20:49 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-09 22:01 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-10 00:36 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-09 17:52 -0800
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-10 04:17 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-10 06:43 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-10 00:47 -0800
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-10 15:47 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-10 20:29 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-10 21:20 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-10 22:42 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-10 23:13 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-11 03:18 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-11 05:18 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-11 15:27 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-11 17:32 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-13 18:00 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-13 09:15 -0800
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-14 11:41 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-14 13:17 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-14 16:16 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-14 20:55 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-14 14:07 -0800
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-14 16:11 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-14 20:52 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-14 20:00 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-14 23:11 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-15 07:01 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 11:22 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-15 13:23 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2025-01-14 09:56 -0700
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-13 23:22 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-14 07:46 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-14 13:33 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-14 14:26 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-14 23:05 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-23 04:03 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-22 20:31 -0800
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-14 17:54 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-14 23:05 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-15 21:36 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-23 04:14 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-22 20:32 -0800
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-23 10:20 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-10 21:15 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-01-10 17:16 -0600
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-11 22:19 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-12 16:38 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-12 21:31 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-12 22:36 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-13 07:37 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Siard <xx@xx.invalid> - 2025-01-13 11:32 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-13 18:09 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-13 09:13 -0800
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-13 20:35 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-13 23:32 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 21:31 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-14 07:18 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 07:37 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-13 18:05 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-25 12:13 -0800
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Isaac Montara <IsaacMontara@nospam.com> - 2025-01-25 17:39 -0500
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-25 16:59 -0800
Re: EU new labelling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-26 03:22 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Isaac Montara <IsaacMontara@nospam.com> - 2025-01-25 21:44 -0500
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-25 19:57 -0800
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-26 17:39 -0800
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-27 12:57 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-27 10:31 -0800
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-01-28 10:25 +1300
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2025-01-27 21:38 +0000
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-27 13:56 -0800
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-28 01:39 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-27 16:41 -0800
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-28 12:38 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-28 12:39 -0800
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-28 23:21 +0100
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-28 14:35 -0800
Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-27 07:32 +0000
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| From | Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-01-05 17:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <37hlnj9umclsptlusehseecuv4i1j7taon@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #146273 |
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 17:33:29 -0000 (UTC), Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: >Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote: >> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 16:45:14 -0000 (UTC), Tweed >> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: >>>> Pamela wrote: >>>> >>>>> Wasn't there also a requirement for the battery to be user replaceable? >>>> >>>> Not in effect for a couple of years, I think ... >>>> >>> >>> https://environment.ec.europa.eu/news/new-law-more-sustainable-circular-and-safe-batteries-enters-force-2023-08-17_en >>> >>> 2027, though I can?t find an exact date. Not just phones either. >> >> Electric vehicles? >> >I don’t think so. Things like power tools, radios, toothbrushes etc. A user >replaceable EV battery could be quite a dangerous affair. It might improve the residual value though.
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| From | Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-05 17:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vlegjv$14uoa$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #146277 |
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote: > On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 17:33:29 -0000 (UTC), Tweed > <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote: >>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 16:45:14 -0000 (UTC), Tweed >>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: >>>>> Pamela wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Wasn't there also a requirement for the battery to be user replaceable? >>>>> >>>>> Not in effect for a couple of years, I think ... >>>>> >>>> >>>> https://environment.ec.europa.eu/news/new-law-more-sustainable-circular-and-safe-batteries-enters-force-2023-08-17_en >>>> >>>> 2027, though I can?t find an exact date. Not just phones either. >>> >>> Electric vehicles? >>> >> I dont think so. Things like power tools, radios, toothbrushes etc. A user >> replaceable EV battery could be quite a dangerous affair. > > It might improve the residual value though. > Unlikely. Batteries are around £2500 per 10kWhr retail judging by the cost of a house battery.
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| From | Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-01-05 18:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <9ailnj5qvtucja0mm3t40l8aba1h83fnnm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #146279 |
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 17:47:44 -0000 (UTC), Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: >Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote: >> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 17:33:29 -0000 (UTC), Tweed >> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote: >>>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 16:45:14 -0000 (UTC), Tweed >>>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: >>>>>> Pamela wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Wasn't there also a requirement for the battery to be user replaceable? >>>>>> >>>>>> Not in effect for a couple of years, I think ... >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://environment.ec.europa.eu/news/new-law-more-sustainable-circular-and-safe-batteries-enters-force-2023-08-17_en >>>>> >>>>> 2027, though I can?t find an exact date. Not just phones either. >>>> >>>> Electric vehicles? >>>> >>> I don?t think so. Things like power tools, radios, toothbrushes etc. A user >>> replaceable EV battery could be quite a dangerous affair. >> >> It might improve the residual value though. >> >Unlikely. Batteries are around £2500 per 10kWhr retail judging by the cost >of a house battery. Would it not allow an aftermarket for generic batteries instead of being bound by the OEM? I was offered a second hand Zoe at a very low price at one stage but when I realised the battery arrangements (lease from Renault) and the very low range of such a model I dismissed the idea very quickly.
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| From | Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-01-05 20:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ASw*sPR3z@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #146280 |
In uk.telecom.mobile Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote: > On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 17:47:44 -0000 (UTC), Tweed > <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: > > >Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote: > >> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 17:33:29 -0000 (UTC), Tweed > >> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote: > >>>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 16:45:14 -0000 (UTC), Tweed > >>>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: > >>>>>> Pamela wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Wasn't there also a requirement for the battery to be user replaceable? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Not in effect for a couple of years, I think ... > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> https://environment.ec.europa.eu/news/new-law-more-sustainable-circular-and-safe-batteries-enters-force-2023-08-17_en > >>>>> > >>>>> 2027, though I can?t find an exact date. Not just phones either. > >>>> > >>>> Electric vehicles? > >>>> > >>> I don?t think so. Things like power tools, radios, toothbrushes etc. A user > >>> replaceable EV battery could be quite a dangerous affair. > >> > >> It might improve the residual value though. > >> > >Unlikely. Batteries are around £2500 per 10kWhr retail judging by the cost > >of a house battery. > > Would it not allow an aftermarket for generic batteries instead of > being bound by the OEM? I was offered a second hand Zoe at a very low > price at one stage but when I realised the battery arrangements (lease > from Renault) and the very low range of such a model I dismissed the > idea very quickly. EV batteries weigh about 200kg. Consumers aren't going to be changing them because they don't have the lifting gear (hydraulic lifts and scissor tables). If you have gear unscrewing them from the bottom of the vehicle is not complicated, although could be dangerous without safety precautions. In no world are consumers going to be changing them like they change wiper blades. Batteries are designed to fit the car so you need to swap in an OEM battery - just like engines it may theoretically be possible to swap something else, but it's a lot of work (mechanically, electrically and software). There is no standard 1.6 engine that'll fit in every car, and batteries are similarly bespoke. Theo
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| From | Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-01-05 20:44 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #146286 |
On 05 Jan 2025 20:19:22 +0000 (GMT), Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote: >In uk.telecom.mobile Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote: >> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 17:47:44 -0000 (UTC), Tweed >> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote: >> >> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 17:33:29 -0000 (UTC), Tweed >> >> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote: >> >>>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 16:45:14 -0000 (UTC), Tweed >> >>>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: >> >>>>>> Pamela wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Wasn't there also a requirement for the battery to be user replaceable? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Not in effect for a couple of years, I think ... >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> https://environment.ec.europa.eu/news/new-law-more-sustainable-circular-and-safe-batteries-enters-force-2023-08-17_en >> >>>>> >> >>>>> 2027, though I can?t find an exact date. Not just phones either. >> >>>> >> >>>> Electric vehicles? >> >>>> >> >>> I don?t think so. Things like power tools, radios, toothbrushes etc. A user >> >>> replaceable EV battery could be quite a dangerous affair. >> >> >> >> It might improve the residual value though. >> >> >> >Unlikely. Batteries are around £2500 per 10kWhr retail judging by the cost >> >of a house battery. >> >> Would it not allow an aftermarket for generic batteries instead of >> being bound by the OEM? I was offered a second hand Zoe at a very low >> price at one stage but when I realised the battery arrangements (lease >> from Renault) and the very low range of such a model I dismissed the >> idea very quickly. > >EV batteries weigh about 200kg. Consumers aren't going to be changing them >because they don't have the lifting gear (hydraulic lifts and scissor >tables). If you have gear unscrewing them from the bottom of the vehicle is >not complicated, although could be dangerous without safety precautions. In >no world are consumers going to be changing them like they change wiper >blades. > >Batteries are designed to fit the car so you need to swap in an OEM battery >- just like engines it may theoretically be possible to swap something else, >but it's a lot of work (mechanically, electrically and software). There is >no standard 1.6 engine that'll fit in every car, and batteries are similarly >bespoke. > That puts paid to the idea of having a standard battery for all the cars and swapping them from underneath at the filling station using a mechanical arm as was suggested at one time :-)
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| Date | 2025-01-06 10:15 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <vlesom$179lq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #146290 |
On 2025-01-05 20:44:40 +0000, Scott said: > On 05 Jan 2025 20:19:22 +0000 (GMT), Theo > <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote: >> In uk.telecom.mobile Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote: >>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 17:47:44 -0000 (UTC), Tweed >>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 17:33:29 -0000 (UTC), Tweed >>>>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 16:45:14 -0000 (UTC), Tweed >>>>>>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Pamela wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wasn't there also a requirement for the battery to be user replaceable? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not in effect for a couple of years, I think ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://environment.ec.europa.eu/news/new-law-more-sustainable-circular-and-safe-batteries-enters-force-2023-08-17_en >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2027, though I can?t find an exact date. Not just phones either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Electric vehicles? >>>>>> >>>>>> I don?t think so. Things like power tools, radios, toothbrushes etc. A >>>>>> user replaceable EV battery could be quite a dangerous affair. >>>>> >>>>> It might improve the residual value though. >>>> >>>> Unlikely. Batteries are around £2500 per 10kWhr retail judging by the >>>> cost of a house battery. >>> >>> Would it not allow an aftermarket for generic batteries instead of >>> being bound by the OEM? I was offered a second hand Zoe at a very low >>> price at one stage but when I realised the battery arrangements (lease >>> from Renault) and the very low range of such a model I dismissed the >>> idea very quickly. >> >> EV batteries weigh about 200kg. Consumers aren't going to be changing them >> because they don't have the lifting gear (hydraulic lifts and scissor >> tables). If you have gear unscrewing them from the bottom of the vehicle is >> not complicated, although could be dangerous without safety precautions. In >> no world are consumers going to be changing them like they change wiper >> blades. >> >> Batteries are designed to fit the car so you need to swap in an OEM battery >> - just like engines it may theoretically be possible to swap something else, >> but it's a lot of work (mechanically, electrically and software). There is >> no standard 1.6 engine that'll fit in every car, and batteries are similarly >> bespoke. > > That puts paid to the idea of having a standard battery for all the > cars and swapping them from underneath at the filling station using a > mechanical arm as was suggested at one time :-) There are already some battery pack swapping robot places for EV cars and it can be done in five minutes or less, although it depends on the car model, etc. and reportedly is expensive. Most of these places are currently in China, but there are a few in other places (California has a few Nio swap stations). At one point there was the idea of having multiple smaller battery packs that could be easily user swappable in the same simple "plug 'n' play" way as many electric tools. It was also suggest the small battery packs could be swapped at places like supermarkets and petrol stations (deposit a flat battery, take a full one, and the flat battery is recharged for another user). This idea hasn't been taken up by any manufacturer yet. Part of the problem is the cvar manufacturers all having their own designs for the battery packs and how they are fitted. There would need to be a standardisation before easy battery swapping became a real possibility.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-05 22:29 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <h6ar4lxtht.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #146290 |
On 2025-01-05 21:44, Scott wrote: > On 05 Jan 2025 20:19:22 +0000 (GMT), Theo > <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote: > >> In uk.telecom.mobile Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote: >>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 17:47:44 -0000 (UTC), Tweed >>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 17:33:29 -0000 (UTC), Tweed >>>>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 16:45:14 -0000 (UTC), Tweed >>>>>>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Pamela wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wasn't there also a requirement for the battery to be user replaceable? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not in effect for a couple of years, I think ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://environment.ec.europa.eu/news/new-law-more-sustainable-circular-and-safe-batteries-enters-force-2023-08-17_en >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2027, though I can?t find an exact date. Not just phones either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Electric vehicles? >>>>>>> >>>>>> I don?t think so. Things like power tools, radios, toothbrushes etc. A user >>>>>> replaceable EV battery could be quite a dangerous affair. >>>>> >>>>> It might improve the residual value though. >>>>> >>>> Unlikely. Batteries are around £2500 per 10kWhr retail judging by the cost >>>> of a house battery. >>> >>> Would it not allow an aftermarket for generic batteries instead of >>> being bound by the OEM? I was offered a second hand Zoe at a very low >>> price at one stage but when I realised the battery arrangements (lease >>> from Renault) and the very low range of such a model I dismissed the >>> idea very quickly. >> >> EV batteries weigh about 200kg. Consumers aren't going to be changing them >> because they don't have the lifting gear (hydraulic lifts and scissor >> tables). If you have gear unscrewing them from the bottom of the vehicle is >> not complicated, although could be dangerous without safety precautions. In >> no world are consumers going to be changing them like they change wiper >> blades. >> >> Batteries are designed to fit the car so you need to swap in an OEM battery >> - just like engines it may theoretically be possible to swap something else, >> but it's a lot of work (mechanically, electrically and software). There is >> no standard 1.6 engine that'll fit in every car, and batteries are similarly >> bespoke. >> > That puts paid to the idea of having a standard battery for all the > cars and swapping them from underneath at the filling station using a > mechanical arm as was suggested at one time :-) No, because those cars and their batteries were designed for this method. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 21:02 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <u7235lx00i.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #146079 |
On 2025-01-03 06:09, Isaac Montara wrote: > Anyone know how existing & new Google, Samsung & Apple phones are faring? > https://energy-efficient-products.ec.europa.eu/product-list/smartphones- > and-tablets_en I still can not figure out what the Subject of this thread means: Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 ?? -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 12:20 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vlmmn7$2tquc$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #146347 |
On 2025-01-08 12:02, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-01-03 06:09, Isaac Montara wrote: >> Anyone know how existing & new Google, Samsung & Apple phones are faring? >> https://energy-efficient-products.ec.europa.eu/product-list/ >> smartphones- and-tablets_en > > I still can not figure out what the Subject of this thread means: > > Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 > > ?? > Bad typing. The OP's right hand was one key to the right of the correct key for a few letters. "Re: EI mew ;abeling ..." "Re: EU new labeling ..." "I" is one to the right of "U", etc.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 22:44 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <a7835lxudc.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #146350 |
On 2025-01-08 21:20, Alan wrote: > On 2025-01-08 12:02, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-01-03 06:09, Isaac Montara wrote: >>> Anyone know how existing & new Google, Samsung & Apple phones are >>> faring? >>> https://energy-efficient-products.ec.europa.eu/product-list/ >>> smartphones- and-tablets_en >> >> I still can not figure out what the Subject of this thread means: >> >> Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 >> >> ?? >> > Bad typing. The OP's right hand was one key to the right of the correct > key for a few letters. > > "Re: EI mew ;abeling ..." > "Re: EU new labeling ..." > > "I" is one to the right of "U", etc. Ah, ok. My keyboard is different, the ";" is to the right of the "m". -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 20:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lu860iFgp59U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #146347 |
Carlos E.R. wrote: > I still can not figure out what the Subject of this thread means: When I saw "Isaac Montara" the needle on my new-arlen-nym-o-meter started wobbling > Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 I read it as "EU new labelling regulations"
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| From | Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 20:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <itotnj1bjr0j03qqaiss8lh77suu21n1el@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #146351 |
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 20:37:36 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: >Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> I still can not figure out what the Subject of this thread means: > >When I saw "Isaac Montara" the needle on my >new-arlen-nym-o-meter started wobbling > >> Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 > >I read it as "EU new labelling regulations" It did not take me long to work this out either.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 22:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <qv835lxmae.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #146352 |
On 2025-01-08 21:44, Scott wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 20:37:36 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> > wrote: > >> Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> I still can not figure out what the Subject of this thread means: >> >> When I saw "Isaac Montara" the needle on my >> new-arlen-nym-o-meter started wobbling >> >>> Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 >> >> I read it as "EU new labelling regulations" > > It did not take me long to work this out either. I also have this suspicion, but I need more posts to make sure. Wait, there are more posts, going back to July. [...] Yeah, score increased. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-09 16:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vlot44$2loh$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #146351 |
Hi Andy, Happy New Year! Just respond to the value of the body of the message - not the headers. I read everything on this newsgroup, Andy, that you write. Everything. Also everything from Arno. Frank. Gelato. Bev. Steve. Jeff. Zaidy. etc. on the Android newsgroup, but far fewer on the Apple newsgroups, although I read everything from badgolferman & Steve, who had been posted to Usenet for decades just as I have been. I even read what Jolly Roger posts, believe it or not, as he's the quintessential Apple poster of all time. Probably 80% of the Android posters (like micky) know nothing and worse, can't learn anything, while it's far worse than that for the Apple trolls. But I have each poster well under control with a system that scores them. I long ago added that scoring system which marks morons as already read. But it continually adds points to your posts & to those of others above. Not so much the rest. It ignores posts from Alan & Joerg but also subtracts points from others. It's constantly keeping track of the intelligence level of each poster. You're intelligent but most people on this newsgroup are low-IQ morons. For example, when you posted that Marcel wrote NetGuard, I hit the macro to bump your score, just as it did when you kept abreast of Marcel's successful OAUTH2 additions to FairEmail; but it bumps you down every time you call me a spammer (which you sometimes do, much to your discredit). While you provide valuable insight, I've likely provided many times more than all the rest of you combined, Andy, to this newsgroup, in the form of knowledge about how Android actually works & in the form of tutorials. But I still learn a lot of from the likes of those few listed above, Andy. So there's value for me in this newsgroup, even as I deplore the morons. Around every new year the script triggers, Andy, for privacy reasons, where I may know privacy probably better than all the rest of you do, combined. Periodically, the nyms change, as do the time zones, the posting hosts, the nntp servers, the newsreader, etc., all of which is done for privacy Andy. You are smart enough to know that keeping the same headers for two decades or more isn't the best thing if you want to retain some privacy on the net. Most people are completely clueless about the basics of privacy, Andy. Maybe not you. But almost everyone else on this newsgroup has sacrificed their privacy (which is fine) but then they denigrate others that don't. I don't hide who I am in the gift of the value of the body of the article. It's only in the meaningless wrapping paper surrounding that body, Andy. With that in mind, if it takes anyone more than a few seconds to figure out that it's the same detailed annotated images, the same phone even, the same location, the same exacting super-detailed always precise information, etc., they that just means they are low-IQ utter morons, as I never change. I'm not hiding from you. I don't even try. I'm hiding the headers from robotic data-collection engines. It's all done with a process that uses telnet and scripts written years ago, thanks mostly to Marek (and a few others), mostly on the Linux ngs. It randomizes the nntp news server (although I can keep it if I like); and it randomizes the VPN IP address, time posted & other meaningless headers. The hardest part was the algorithm for the randomized dictionary swaps. Even Vanguard & Frank helped write the scripts, although neither of them knew that's what they were doing, I'm sure, as the scripts are complex. Then it was ported to Windows and that's where the automation proceeds. Telnet does most of the work. The headers are dictionary lookups. It used to be that the headers randomly copied other nyms from other newsgroups and other headers from different posts, so as to mix things up, but then it accidentally picked up people here so I cut that part out. Now it just picks everything from a set of a half-dozen dictionaries. I don't even know what nym is being used as it doesn't matter the nym. Often I don't even know what person I'm responding to as what matters is not their pedigree but what they said in the post that contained value. My editor is "Gvim" and the user agent is telnet if that matters to you. Only fools care more about the wrapping paper than the gift being provided. In short... Anyone who says "I figured you out" is proclaiming that they're a moron, especially if it takes more than one post for them to figure that out. Let me know what the nym is for this post as I don't even see it, so I won't know what it is until *after* this post is reflected in my feed.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-09 20:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <rll55lxcs7.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #146356 |
On 2025-01-09 17:22, Marion wrote: > Hi Andy, > > Happy New Year! > Just respond to the value of the body of the message - not the headers. > > I read everything on this newsgroup, Andy, that you write. Everything. 1 > > Also everything from Arno. Frank. Gelato. Bev. Steve. Jeff. Zaidy. etc. on > the Android newsgroup, but far fewer on the Apple newsgroups, although I > read everything from badgolferman & Steve, who had been posted to Usenet > for decades just as I have been. I even read what Jolly Roger posts, > believe it or not, as he's the quintessential Apple poster of all time. > > Probably 80% of the Android posters (like micky) know nothing and worse, > can't learn anything, while it's far worse than that for the Apple trolls. > > But I have each poster well under control with a system that scores them. 2 And you are a new poster, new name. > > I long ago added that scoring system which marks morons as already read. > But it continually adds points to your posts & to those of others above. > > Not so much the rest. > It ignores posts from Alan & Joerg but also subtracts points from others. > > It's constantly keeping track of the intelligence level of each poster. > You're intelligent but most people on this newsgroup are low-IQ morons. > > For example, when you posted that Marcel wrote NetGuard, I hit the macro to > bump your score, just as it did when you kept abreast of Marcel's > successful OAUTH2 additions to FairEmail; but it bumps you down every time > you call me a spammer (which you sometimes do, much to your discredit). "you call me" — how, if you are a new poster? I feel a smell... 3 > While you provide valuable insight, I've likely provided many times more What, a first time poster 4 > than all the rest of you combined, Andy, to this newsgroup, in the form of > knowledge about how Android actually works & in the form of tutorials. > > But I still learn a lot of from the likes of those few listed above, Andy. > So there's value for me in this newsgroup, even as I deplore the morons. > > Around every new year the script triggers, Andy, for privacy reasons, where > I may know privacy probably better than all the rest of you do, combined. > > Periodically, the nyms change, as do the time zones, the posting hosts, the > nntp servers, the newsreader, etc., all of which is done for privacy Andy. & 5! Hi, Arlen! > > You are smart enough to know that keeping the same headers for two decades > or more isn't the best thing if you want to retain some privacy on the net. Bullshit. > > Most people are completely clueless about the basics of privacy, Andy. > > Maybe not you. But almost everyone else on this newsgroup has sacrificed > their privacy (which is fine) but then they denigrate others that don't. > > I don't hide who I am in the gift of the value of the body of the article. > It's only in the meaningless wrapping paper surrounding that body, Andy. > > With that in mind, if it takes anyone more than a few seconds to figure out > that it's the same detailed annotated images, the same phone even, the same > location, the same exacting super-detailed always precise information, > etc., they that just means they are low-IQ utter morons, as I never change. > > I'm not hiding from you. I don't even try. > I'm hiding the headers from robotic data-collection engines. > > It's all done with a process that uses telnet and scripts written years > ago, thanks mostly to Marek (and a few others), mostly on the Linux ngs. > > It randomizes the nntp news server (although I can keep it if I like); and > it randomizes the VPN IP address, time posted & other meaningless headers. > > The hardest part was the algorithm for the randomized dictionary swaps. > > Even Vanguard & Frank helped write the scripts, although neither of them > knew that's what they were doing, I'm sure, as the scripts are complex. > > Then it was ported to Windows and that's where the automation proceeds. > Telnet does most of the work. The headers are dictionary lookups. > > It used to be that the headers randomly copied other nyms from other > newsgroups and other headers from different posts, so as to mix things up, > but then it accidentally picked up people here so I cut that part out. > > Now it just picks everything from a set of a half-dozen dictionaries. > > I don't even know what nym is being used as it doesn't matter the nym. > Often I don't even know what person I'm responding to as what matters is > not their pedigree but what they said in the post that contained value. > > My editor is "Gvim" and the user agent is telnet if that matters to you. > Only fools care more about the wrapping paper than the gift being provided. > > In short... > Anyone who says "I figured you out" is proclaiming that they're a moron, > especially if it takes more than one post for them to figure that out. > > Let me know what the nym is for this post as I don't even see it, so I > won't know what it is until *after* this post is reflected in my feed. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-09 20:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vlpcp1$2r5t$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #146357 |
Carlos E.R. wrote on Thu, 9 Jan 2025 20:46:35 +0100 :
> & 5! Hi, Arlen!
I repeat, verbatim...
"Anyone who says 'I figured you out' is proclaiming that they're a moron"
It's no wonder your IQ score is highly negative, Carlos.
Just above that of Chris s|b but below that of Stan, Frank & Vanguard.
BTW, I don't even know what nym is being used as it doesn't matter the nym.
What matters is the invaluable detailed knowledge imparted in the body.
However, since I flip the switch routinely around the turn of the year,
apparently this new 2025 nym is "Marion" (which you knew before I did).
Here's an image, just like all the other images for the past decade.
<https://i.postimg.cc/x1BL0M8G/shortcut-location-accuracy04.jpg>
You can cross-check with any reverse image search to find that it's mine.
I've been posting the same style of images, Carlos, for over a decade.
If people can't figure out who I am from that, then they're utter morons.
That's how easy it is to figure out my posts, Carlos, which I don't hide.
And yet, like the handicapped child who screams out in joy "I found it"
when he picks up the huge Easter egg on the table completely unhidden,
the lower the IQ the more people like you, Carlos, scream out in joy...
"I found you!"
Note that you guys consistently finger people who are NOT me, all the time,
as me, where I chuckle in mirth (especially those like Frank Slootweg who
think they're utter geniuses but who are so wrong that it's amusing to me).
I didn't even know who I was just now until I read my own post, Carlos.
Who I am does NOT show up in my GVim editing (which doesn't show headers).
So the only way I even know whom I'm responding to is from the attribution
line, which is also randomized (as is everything but the valuable body).
Every time someone screams out "I found you!", it's always low-IQ morons.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-09 22:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <c2q55lx2up.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #146358 |
On 2025-01-09 21:49, Marion wrote: > Carlos E.R. wrote on Thu, 9 Jan 2025 20:46:35 +0100 : > >> & 5! Hi, Arlen! > > I repeat, verbatim... > "Anyone who says 'I figured you out' is proclaiming that they're a moron" > > It's no wonder your IQ score is highly negative, Carlos. Insults again. Not reading the rest. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-10 00:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vlpq2p$1rtd$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #146359 |
on Thu, 9 Jan 2025 22:01:32 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote : > Not reading the rest. Then you should be able to figure my posts out just from the response showing what I think of the lack of value you impart in every reply. Anyone who claims "I found you" is no different than the mentally handicapped person who says the same when finding the not hidden egg. That you think I'm "hiding" from you shows how low your IQ really is when I change nothing but the meaningless wrapping paper even after being on this newsgroup almost since its inception. I periodically change the header wrapping paper for the aggregators. Not for you - although you're so stupid - maybe it does hide from you. What I find funny is when you low-IQ morons claim you "finally" found what was never hidden in the first place - as it shows how DK you really are.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-09 17:52 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vlpuha$3kooa$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #146360 |
On 2025-01-09 16:36, Marion wrote: > on Thu, 9 Jan 2025 22:01:32 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote : > > >> Not reading the rest. > > Then you should be able to figure my posts out just from the response > showing what I think of the lack of value you impart in every reply. > > Anyone who claims "I found you" is no different than the mentally > handicapped person who says the same when finding the not hidden egg. > > That you think I'm "hiding" from you shows how low your IQ really is > when I change nothing but the meaningless wrapping paper even after being > on this newsgroup almost since its inception. > > I periodically change the header wrapping paper for the aggregators. > Not for you - although you're so stupid - maybe it does hide from you. > > What I find funny is when you low-IQ morons claim you "finally" found what > was never hidden in the first place - as it shows how DK you really are. You should be punched right in the face.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-10 04:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <j2g65lx3vf.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #146360 |
On 2025-01-10 01:36, Marion wrote: > on Thu, 9 Jan 2025 22:01:32 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote : > > >> Not reading the rest. > > Then you should be able to figure my posts out just from the response > showing what I think of the lack of value you impart in every reply. Insulting again. Not reading, troll. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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