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Re: A proposition for a conditional loop.

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Jonas,

> In language a negation is no and not, as in while not.
> Your searching for "something" using a negation.

:-) my example of negation was ment as a bit of an over-the-top joke.

But you know what the worst part is ?   You still forgot(?) to explain where 
that "negation" of yours has to do with your proposition.  :-(

> The compound statement in for loop, nah that is not beautiful
> to read...  But it serves  the purpose.

Feel free to come up with a more aesthetic way to do it.

> The semantic difference i guess is
> Search while not same socks,(compare sock A and B[x]) then pair
> VS
> Do search until same socks,(compare sock A and B[x]) then pair.

Skipped example, not valid javascript (don't say I didn't warn you).

> x is here a sock, in the stack of socks you search thru comparing
> with sock A is the left hand and B is the right hand.

You're obsfucating the actual point with crap that has got /nothing/ to do 
with it.  I have no wish to try to dig/guess my way thru that obsfucation. 
Sorry.

> It may seem a small difference, but if compound conditions have a little
> harder context

There is no compound statement in the example you posted.  And no, inverting 
a condition is not in any way the same as a compound statement.

Furthermore, if your example would have used actual valid js I could pointed 
out that you most likely would have been able to invert the comparision 
parameter, negating the need for a negation (and yes, I wrote it that way 
intentionally).

> the former will be almost impossible to read out all.

Really ?    Than you will be in for a hard time I'm afraid.

> Compound statements using negations, is just a weird usage but
> necessary.

Sometimes its necessary, yes.  But if you get confused by it than why not 
use the round brackets around the whole sub-part (negation plus following 
condition) ?   In al other case you could, as already mentioned, simply 
invert the comparision itself.

> Well if your language do not hav "do while" and "do until".

No idea why you said that.  Explain please.    It reads as something that 
should have been followed by a "than do (something else)".


And there I am, at the end of your post, *still* not having any idea of what 
your proposed conditional loop should look like, and even less to what 
problem it should solve. :-(

You know what: I'm going to give you a last chance.   Start with explaining 
what (you think) the problem is (comparing to other, already available loops 
will do just fine).  After that post a SIMPLE mockup using VALID js.    In 
your current case you /should/ even be able to create an actual, working 
example using either a "do until" or a "do while" loop.

If you can't do that I will drop this thread.  It makes no sense to me to 
put effort into keep trying to understand what you are saying as my requests 
for clarity remain unheeded.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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A proposition for a conditional loop. Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2019-09-23 00:55 -0700
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