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Gregor Kofler wrote:
> Am 2012-08-06 20:01, Robert Baer meinte:
>> Gregor Kofler wrote:
>>> Am 2012-08-06 10:44, Robert Baer meinte:
>>>> Gregor Kofler wrote:
>>>>> Am 2012-08-06 06:56, Robert Baer meinte:
>>>>>> Robert Baer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, if i interpret your answer correctly, those IF..ENDIF statements
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> NOT javascript.
>>>>>>> May i then correctly assume that they are HTML?
>>>>>
>>>>> Neither (well, sort of the latter). They are "conditional
>>>>> comments"[1].
>>>>>
>>>>>> Could not find any active NG covering HTML..suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Did (or how did) you search?
>>>>>
>>>>> How about
>>>>>
>>>>> comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html
>>>> * Here we go again; nomenclature. Would never have thought about
>>>> "authoring".
>>>
>>> "html" should suffice. I use Thunderbird as newsreader and when
>>> subscribing to newsgroups I can just search for "html" or "javascript" -
>>> no need to know the precise name of a newsgroup.
>>>
>>>> However,using the baby bird (goo-gull) i found Firebug which LOOKS
>>>> like it would do what i want.
>>>> BUT.
>>>> Cannot follow the damn directions as there is NO grey firebug to
>>>> click on.
>>>> Have no clue as to if it actually installed, etc.
>>>> So, at this point it is totally useless.
>>>> Useful comments?
>>>
>>> Dunno. Is Firebug listet under your installed extensions? Have you
>>> restarted FF? Firebug has been working here for years without any
>>> problems. Hit F12 this should also trigger Firebug. Or use
>>> Chrome/Chromium and use the developer tools there - they do a similar
>>> (and in rare occassions better) job as Firebug.
>>>
>>> Gregor
>> OK; the "tricks" of restart and F12 worked.
>> BUT.
>> Absolutely zero instructions or help.
>> I would like to step thru the code and then see what the result is.
>> I noticed that one can have two windows: the site being debugged, and
>> the control window; making it handy to do exactly what i would like to
>> do.
>> Firebug site is not exactly helpful to say the least; but for free,
>> what can i expect?
>
> I've used Firebug for years now, I can't remember finding it
> particularly difficult to get grips with it.
>
> Browsing through
> https://getfirebug.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>
> should give you more than sufficient help.
>
> For a start
>
> - activate the script tab
> - reload page
> - locate the script in question from the dropdown
> - find code you want to debug
> - set breakpoint by clicking on left margin (green line numbers)
> - trigger events to reach break point or - in case of some load listener
> code - reload page
>
>
> The debugger in WebKit flavored browsers works quite similar, as does
> Opera's DragonFly (invoked with Ctrl-Alt-I).
>
> Gregor
>
>
>
   I do not want breakpoints; it may take daze to set every code line as 
a breakpoint.
   Ideally, i want to start with a blank screen with the URL set and 
ready to run.
   Then switch over and tell Firebug to step thru all code at some 
user-controllable rate - and maybe stop stepping on some user action 
(Ctrl-Alt-F12?).
   As Firebug is stepping,i will watch the other screen be "painted" 
with images and text; when i see something i need more info OR do not 
like, i then press the magic combo (Ctrl-Alt-F12?) to stop stepping, 
then switch back to Firebug to get that info.
**
   As-is, with zero help info, i loaded my website and scrolled thru the 
HTML code line-by-line and found one apparent mis-coding; hopefully the 
correction i applied will work in real life.
   Will have the individual (temporarily) managing the site apply the 
update, and we shall see.
   Browsers tend to render the code differently with regard to where the 
code resides: URL root, URL folder, HD root, HD folder.
   And every browser is different as to rendering consistency across 
sources.
   Add more complexity in rendering "efficiency" between browsers and 
"platforms" (desktop, palmtop, etc).
   Also, consider different versions of a browser a a TOTALLY DIFFERENT 
browser.
   It is a huge array of "howwzit work" that can easily change with a 
minor code change.

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