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Web services/SOA - The right way

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First post2016-08-14 03:04 -0700
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  Web services/SOA  - The right way Alberto Salvati <zzzato@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 03:04 -0700
    Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-14 08:14 -0400
      Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Nigel Wade <nmw@local.domain> - 2016-08-15 17:07 +0100
        Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-15 14:49 -0400
    Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Nigel Wade <nmw@local.domain> - 2016-08-15 14:00 +0100
    Re: Web services/SOA  - The right way Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 06:26 -0700
      Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-15 14:56 -0400
    Re: Web services/SOA  - The right way Alberto Salvati <zzzato@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 02:48 -0700
      Re: Web services/SOA  - The right way Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 06:36 -0700
        Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-16 17:06 -0400
          Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 05:02 -0700
            Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-17 19:30 -0400
      Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-16 16:26 -0400
        Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 15:18 -0700
          Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-18 19:19 -0400
            Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 10:39 -0700
              Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 10:48 -0700
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-19 20:16 -0400
      Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Nigel Wade <nmw@local.domain> - 2016-08-17 10:11 +0100
    Re: Web services/SOA  - The right way Alberto Salvati <zzzato@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 00:01 -0700
      Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-22 12:05 -0400
        Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Alberto Salvati <zzzato@gmail.com> - 2016-08-23 02:17 -0700
          Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-23 19:20 -0400
        Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-24 06:24 +0800
          Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-23 19:17 -0400
            Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Alberto Salvati <zzzato@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 00:15 -0700
            Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-24 19:47 +0800
              Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-24 20:23 -0400
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-25 19:22 +0800
                  Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-25 20:20 -0400
                    Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-27 07:49 +0800
                      Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-26 20:11 -0400
                        Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-29 10:15 +0800
                          Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-30 20:39 -0400
                          Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 22:27 -0700
                        Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Stanimir Stamenkov <s7an10@netscape.net> - 2016-08-29 05:59 +0300
                          Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-30 20:47 -0400
                            Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Stanimir Stamenkov <s7an10@netscape.net> - 2016-08-31 16:23 +0300
                              Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-09-06 21:06 -0400
                      Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 22:27 -0700
                        Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-08-31 10:00 -0400

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#35320 — Web services/SOA - The right way

FromAlberto Salvati <zzzato@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-14 03:04 -0700
SubjectWeb services/SOA - The right way
Message-ID<aa1331d1-623a-4d8a-9812-ceccf9f72c19@googlegroups.com>
Hi, all.
I'm Alberto e I've more than 20 years of experience with delphi.
Now, I'm moving to java, so, I'm searching information for the "right way".
My intention, at this moment, is learn how develop and expose web services usable by mobile (ios/android) or windows dekstop application (maybe, linux too but later..)

I have seen these links:
https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19798-01...boe/index.html
https://netbeans.org/kb/docs/websvc/rest.html (i tried, but it doesn't work for me...)

but I have not experience to choose the "right way". So, I would need to know:


1) standard technology to use (REST/RESTful, business interface..or other?)
1) best ide to do it (netbeans, eclipse, jdeveloper...or other?)

I apologize about my doubts will be sound like "stupid", but I would start this new "adventure" in right way.
Thanks in advanced for any answer.

A. 

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#35337 — Re: Web services/SOA - The right way

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2016-08-14 08:14 -0400
SubjectRe: Web services/SOA - The right way
Message-ID<nopnb3$ct7$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#35320
On 8/14/2016 6:04 AM, Alberto Salvati wrote:
> I'm Alberto e I've more than 20 years of experience with delphi.
> Now, I'm moving to java, so, I'm searching information for the "right way".
> My intention, at this moment, is learn how develop and expose web services
 > usable by mobile (ios/android) or windows dekstop application (maybe,
 > linux too but later..)
>
> I have seen these links:
> https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19798-01...boe/index.html
> https://netbeans.org/kb/docs/websvc/rest.html (i tried, but it doesn't work for me...)
>
> but I have not experience to choose the "right way". So, I would need to know:
>
> 1) standard technology to use (REST/RESTful, business interface..or other?)
> 1) best ide to do it (netbeans, eclipse, jdeveloper...or other?)

Go for JAX-RS web services.

Start with:
* Tomcat as server
* standard editor for writing the code
* ant for build and deployment

When you got a feeling for it, then try all the free Java IDE's out
there and pick the one you like the most.

Arne

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#35351 — Re: Web services/SOA - The right way

FromNigel Wade <nmw@local.domain>
Date2016-08-15 17:07 +0100
SubjectRe: Web services/SOA - The right way
Message-ID<e1e7ldF6jfaU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#35337
On 14/08/16 13:14, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 8/14/2016 6:04 AM, Alberto Salvati wrote:
>> I'm Alberto e I've more than 20 years of experience with delphi.
>> Now, I'm moving to java, so, I'm searching information for the "right way".
>> My intention, at this moment, is learn how develop and expose web services
>> usable by mobile (ios/android) or windows dekstop application (maybe,
>> linux too but later..)
>>
>> I have seen these links:
>> https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19798-01...boe/index.html
>> https://netbeans.org/kb/docs/websvc/rest.html (i tried, but it doesn't work for me...)
>>
>> but I have not experience to choose the "right way". So, I would need to know:
>>
>> 1) standard technology to use (REST/RESTful, business interface..or other?)
>> 1) best ide to do it (netbeans, eclipse, jdeveloper...or other?)
>
> Go for JAX-RS web services.
>
> Start with:
> * Tomcat as server
> * standard editor for writing the code
> * ant for build and deployment
>
> When you got a feeling for it, then try all the free Java IDE's out
> there and pick the one you like the most.
>
> Arne
>
>

If you do decide to go with JAX-RS, you might find this useful:

http://javaarm.com/file/java/javaee/websocket/books/Packt_Developing-RESTful-Services-with-JAX-RS-2.0-WebSockets-and-JSON_Masoud-Kalali_2013.pdf

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#35352 — Re: Web services/SOA - The right way

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2016-08-15 14:49 -0400
SubjectRe: Web services/SOA - The right way
Message-ID<not2s7$12nf$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#35351
On 8/15/2016 12:07 PM, Nigel Wade wrote:
> On 14/08/16 13:14, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 8/14/2016 6:04 AM, Alberto Salvati wrote:
>>> My intention, at this moment, is learn how develop and expose web
>>> services
>>> usable by mobile (ios/android) or windows dekstop application (maybe,
>>> linux too but later..)

>>> 1) standard technology to use (REST/RESTful, business interface..or
>>> other?)
>>> 1) best ide to do it (netbeans, eclipse, jdeveloper...or other?)
>>
>> Go for JAX-RS web services.

> If you do decide to go with JAX-RS,

JAX-WS would not be a good choice for exposing services to mobile.

If you say SOAP to those guys they want to wash your mouth with soap.

:-)

Arne

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#35349 — Re: Web services/SOA - The right way

FromNigel Wade <nmw@local.domain>
Date2016-08-15 14:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Web services/SOA - The right way
Message-ID<e1dsmlF3vd2U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#35320
On 14/08/16 11:04, Alberto Salvati wrote:
> Hi, all.
> I'm Alberto e I've more than 20 years of experience with delphi.
> Now, I'm moving to java, so, I'm searching information for the "right way".
> My intention, at this moment, is learn how develop and expose web services usable by mobile (ios/android) or windows dekstop application (maybe, linux too but later..)
>
> I have seen these links:
> https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19798-01...boe/index.html
> https://netbeans.org/kb/docs/websvc/rest.html (i tried, but it doesn't work for me...)
>
> but I have not experience to choose the "right way". So, I would need to know:
>
>
> 1) standard technology to use (REST/RESTful, business interface..or other?)
> 1) best ide to do it (netbeans, eclipse, jdeveloper...or other?)
>
> I apologize about my doubts will be sound like "stupid", but I would start this new "adventure" in right way.
> Thanks in advanced for any answer.
>
> A.
>

Before you can determine which of the many web "services" best meets your requirements you first need to gain a grasp of what the
various technologies are, and how they might fit into your usage scenario.

I have found this tutorial very helpful.
http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/6/tutorial/doc/docinfo.html

If you are only interested in Web Services then chapter 3 is what you want.
Although reading other chapters for background can't hurt.

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#35350

FromEric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-15 06:26 -0700
Message-ID<0fc22d23-1941-4301-a6fb-ee1568dec27b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#35320
On Sunday, August 14, 2016 at 6:05:17 AM UTC-4, Alberto Salvati wrote:
> I apologize about my doubts will be sound like "stupid", but I would start this new "adventure" in right way.

There is no best way and the right way tends to be personal preference.
Is this for one application, or are you trying to learn tech to get a job somewhere?  Are you coding by yourself or will you be putting out ads for other developers who already know the tech?  It might help to search your area job listings and see what others are using.  I haven't searched for a job in a long time but last I checked for Java positions everyone wanted someone who knows web tech and they were using at least 4 different technologies.
I hear tomcat is a nice free one, jetty does something along those lines, and big business are using Oracle Java EE.

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#35353 — Re: Web services/SOA - The right way

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2016-08-15 14:56 -0400
SubjectRe: Web services/SOA - The right way
Message-ID<not39c$13en$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#35350
On 8/15/2016 9:26 AM, Eric Douglas wrote:
> On Sunday, August 14, 2016 at 6:05:17 AM UTC-4, Alberto Salvati
> wrote:
>> I apologize about my doubts will be sound like "stupid", but I
>> would start this new "adventure" in right way.
>
> There is no best way and the right way tends to be personal
> preference.

many things are personal preferences, but there are also some
some more solid based points.

>       I haven't searched for a job in a long time but last I
> checked for Java positions everyone wanted someone who knows web tech

A very large parts of Java work includes Java EE and some web
technologies.

>                                                       I hear tomcat
> is a nice free one, jetty does something along those lines, and big
> business are using Oracle Java EE.

Tomcat and Jetty are both implementations of Java EE web profile (a
subset of Java EE full platform).

Arne

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#35355

FromAlberto Salvati <zzzato@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-16 02:48 -0700
Message-ID<813beeec-0e6a-45fa-b9a7-64525c9abb29@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#35320
As first, thanks for these answers.

Eric:
I need to move to java about searching job (so, is important for me to learn *most used* technologies/frameworks/ides...) and, for a my project, I need to develop a "system" that:

1) propagate data modification in my customer head office to external database
2) these data will be send to mobile android tablets on demand
3) tablets will send other data to same external database
4) head office read data sent by android tablets
5) tablets and head office need authentication to read/write data to external database

(...is so complex to explain why I've this "strange" architecture, but I need it..)

So, I'm thinking to use java to develop this system.
Maybe is a good  opportunity to UNDERSTAND AND LEARN JAVA and say goodbye to delphi.


Now, I've netbeans + maven + glassfish and tomcat.
I I'm trying to understand using tutorials and other...and I'm very confused.

Netbeans has demo projects, and I've found a JAVA7 messagebord application and now I'm using it as a template to understand and learn.
I added to this project some persistent class using netbeans wizard "entity classes from database". Ok. Wonderful. After this task, deploy on glassfish fails with an exception....Uff....

Also, I tried this: 
https://netbeans.org/kb/docs/websvc/rest.html
but it doesn't work.
If you try to test web services, you don't see anything.

I'm studying and learning about this work since 1985. 
I'm 48..I'm old.. :-(((
I've no problem to LEARN.
I never had problem to LEARN.
I think that about our work we need CONTINUE LEARNING, CONTINUE IMPROVMENT and so on.

But I am frustrated because tutorials don't work, blogs speak about java without explain java version/netbeans version, and I don't see A WAY but a lot of different way and no know how to EVALUTATE and choose.

REST/REstful, http requests..or...? (..I always hated SOAP...!) :-D
JPA, Spring JDBC, Hibernate, Batis.or....?


Arne:
> many things are personal preferences, but there are also some
> some more solid based points. 

what are they?


Nigel:
> http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/6/tutorial/doc/docinfo.html
Thanks. I hope it will be valid on java7 too..

Also, I bought this book in kindle format:

https://www.amazon.it/Restful-Java-Services-Jobinesh-Purushothaman/dp/1784399094/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1471339367&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=resful+java+web+services
..but examples use ORACLE DATABASE....uff...and when i try to use MySql examples don't work.....
I'm trying again.

Many many thanks to all, guys.


A.

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#35356

FromEric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-16 06:36 -0700
Message-ID<30fa46df-a07c-43fd-bfea-8eecf8a6f571@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#35355
On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 5:48:19 AM UTC-4, Alberto Salvati wrote:
> Now, I've netbeans + maven + glassfish and tomcat.
> I I'm trying to understand using tutorials and other...and I'm very confused.

I've always been confused myself, there are so many different technologies here that sound like they're doing the same or very similar things.  The only point to learning new things is if you have or believe you will have a practical purpose for something the new thing can do that nothing else does (or it can do it much better), or if you're looking for a career with a business that is using the technology.

> REST/REstful, http requests..or...? (..I always hated SOAP...!) :-D
> JPA, Spring JDBC, Hibernate, Batis.or....?

I haven't needed any of these things, aside from your basic http requests, so I don't know what they do that our current technologies don't do.  We get one PC to send data to another by starting a JVM on each and connecting them with sockets (we do this on local domain but the same method works over the internet), and we send data to/from tablets using your basic GET/POST commands to a jetty servlet.

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#35369 — Re: Web services/SOA - The right way

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2016-08-16 17:06 -0400
SubjectRe: Web services/SOA - The right way
Message-ID<novv90$12m6$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#35356
On 8/16/2016 9:36 AM, Eric Douglas wrote:
> I haven't needed any of these things, aside from your basic http
> requests, so I don't know what they do that our current technologies
> don't do.  We get one PC to send data to another by starting a JVM on
> each and connecting them with sockets (we do this on local domain but
> the same method works over the internet), and we send data to/from
> tablets using your basic GET/POST commands to a jetty servlet.

The code for the latter may be simpler and easier to maintain if you
used JAX-RS instead of plain servlet.

Arne

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#35373 — Re: Web services/SOA - The right way

FromEric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-17 05:02 -0700
SubjectRe: Web services/SOA - The right way
Message-ID<279da19c-a6a9-4b69-8824-21c82ba433e3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#35369
On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 5:06:50 PM UTC-4, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> The code for the latter may be simpler and easier to maintain if you
> used JAX-RS instead of plain servlet.

I'll look into it, but we're using a hybrid language so the servlet was easier to set up because the server stuff is built in.

http://documentation.basis.com/BASISHelp/WebHelp/servlet/bbj_servlet_overview.htm#

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#35386 — Re: Web services/SOA - The right way

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2016-08-17 19:30 -0400
SubjectRe: Web services/SOA - The right way
Message-ID<np2s31$qef$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#35373
On 8/17/2016 8:02 AM, Eric Douglas wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 5:06:50 PM UTC-4, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> The code for the latter may be simpler and easier to maintain if you
>> used JAX-RS instead of plain servlet.
>
> I'll look into it, but we're using a hybrid language so the servlet
?> was easier to set up because the server stuff is built in.
>
> http://documentation.basis.com/BASISHelp/WebHelp/servlet/bbj_servlet_overview.htm#

Well - it may be easier than you think.

The first link on that page is to how to use RESTEasy with BBj.

RESTEasy is a JAX-RS framework!

:-)

Arne

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#35362 — Re: Web services/SOA - The right way

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2016-08-16 16:26 -0400
SubjectRe: Web services/SOA - The right way
Message-ID<novsug$vjl$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#35355
On 8/16/2016 5:48 AM, Alberto Salvati wrote:
> Now, I've netbeans + maven + glassfish and tomcat.

Unlikely that you need both GlassFish and Tomcat.

Maven is a great tool.

But I am not sure I will recommend starting with it. Too much happening
under the hood.,

> Netbeans has demo projects, and I've found a JAVA7 messagebord
> application and now I'm using it as a template to understand and
> learn. I added to this project some persistent class using netbeans
> wizard "entity classes from database". Ok. Wonderful. After this
> task, deploy on glassfish fails with an exception....Uff....

What exception.

> But I am frustrated because tutorials don't work, blogs speak about
> java without explain java version/netbeans version, and I don't see A
> WAY but a lot of different way and no know how to EVALUTATE and
> choose.

Code should work with version >= minimum version.

Yes - there are usually several ways of doing the same.

Try them all and decide what you prefer.

> REST/REstful, http requests..or...? (..I always hated SOAP...!) :-D

JAX-RS

> JPA, Spring JDBC, Hibernate, Batis.or....?

JPA API with Hibernate as implementation is a very mainstream
choice.

> Arne:
>> many things are personal preferences, but there are also some
>> some more solid based points.
>
> what are they?

One example is preferring JAX-RS over JAX-WS for services for mobile.

> Nigel:
>> http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/6/tutorial/doc/docinfo.html
> Thanks. I hope it will be valid on java7 too..

The tutorial is for Java EE 6 not for Java SE 6.

> Also, I bought this book in kindle format:
>
> https://www.amazon.it/Restful-Java-Services-Jobinesh-Purushothaman/dp/1784399094/
> ..but examples use ORACLE DATABASE....uff...and when i try to use MySql examples don't work.....

Without details impossible to say what the problem is.

Arne

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#35398 — Re: Web services/SOA - The right way

FromLew <lewbloch@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-18 15:18 -0700
SubjectRe: Web services/SOA - The right way
Message-ID<7094c1c8-5d46-4189-ab85-043762152c13@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#35362
Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> Alberto Salvati wrote:
...
> > Netbeans has demo projects, and I've found a JAVA7 messagebord

Java 7 is obsolete.

> > JPA, Spring JDBC, Hibernate, Batis.or....?
> 
> JPA API with Hibernate as implementation is a very mainstream
> choice.

OpenJPA and EclipseLInk are two other very good implementations, and they are free of the cruft of Hibernate's old way, and thus less likely to lead to trouble.

> > Nigel:
> >> http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/6/tutorial/doc/docinfo.html
> > Thanks. I hope it will be valid on java7 too..
> 
> The tutorial is for Java EE 6 not for Java SE 6.

Also, Java SE 7 is obsolete.

-- 
Lew

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#35399 — Re: Web services/SOA - The right way

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2016-08-18 19:19 -0400
SubjectRe: Web services/SOA - The right way
Message-ID<np5fql$ai1$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#35398
On 8/18/2016 6:18 PM, Lew wrote:
> Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> Alberto Salvati wrote:
>>> Nigel:
>>>> http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/6/tutorial/doc/docinfo.html
>>> Thanks. I hope it will be valid on java7 too..
>>
>> The tutorial is for Java EE 6 not for Java SE 6.
>
> Also, Java SE 7 is obsolete.

Oracle Java 7 free went EOL April 2015, but there are
still supported versions.

Oracle Java 7 paid has premier support until July 2019
and extended support until July 2022.

IBM Java 7 for non-z?OS has normal support
until September 2019 and either 2 or 3
years of extended support.

Redhat Linux OpenJDK 7 has support until June 2018.

Arne

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#35415 — Re: Web services/SOA - The right way

FromLew <lewbloch@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-19 10:39 -0700
SubjectRe: Web services/SOA - The right way
Message-ID<d5b2eafe-3daa-469a-b164-656f4add268e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#35399
On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 4:20:00 PM UTC-7, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 8/18/2016 6:18 PM, Lew wrote:
> > Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> >> Alberto Salvati wrote:
> >>> Nigel:
> >>>> http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/6/tutorial/doc/docinfo.html
> >>> Thanks. I hope it will be valid on java7 too..
> >>
> >> The tutorial is for Java EE 6 not for Java SE 6.
> >
> > Also, Java SE 7 is obsolete.
> 
> Oracle Java 7 free went EOL April 2015, but there are
> still supported versions.
> 
> Oracle Java 7 paid has premier support until July 2019
> and extended support until July 2022.
> 
> IBM Java 7 for non-z?OS has normal support
> until September 2019 and either 2 or 3
> years of extended support.
> 
> Redhat Linux OpenJDK 7 has support until June 2018.

All right, substantially obsolete.

-- 
Lew

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#35417 — Re: Web services/SOA - The right way

FromEric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-19 10:48 -0700
SubjectRe: Web services/SOA - The right way
Message-ID<4d33e183-a7f2-4f86-bb6e-62201d42cc83@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#35415
On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 1:40:24 PM UTC-4, Lew wrote:
> All right, substantially obsolete.
> 
> -- 
> Lew

They don't expect everyone to be able to run current software for various reasons, so from Java to Windows you can pay for support past the "end of life".

If you can run the latest, everyone should remain current on Java.
Windows is a different story.  I run 8.1 at work, 10 at home.  I've heard 10 has a lot of issues on a managed domain.  We still run XP because software would cost thousands of dollars to run on anything newer.

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#35420 — Re: Web services/SOA - The right way

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2016-08-19 20:16 -0400
SubjectRe: Web services/SOA - The right way
Message-ID<np87gh$d34$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#35417
On 8/19/2016 1:48 PM, Eric Douglas wrote:
> They don't expect everyone to be able to run current software for
> various reasons, so from Java to Windows you can pay for support past
> the "end of life".
>
> If you can run the latest, everyone should remain current on Java.
> Windows is a different story.  I run 8.1 at work, 10 at home.  I've
> heard 10 has a lot of issues on a managed domain.  We still run XP
> because software would cost thousands of dollars to run on anything
> newer.

Many are tied to the version their app server supports.

And upgrading app server can sometimes be a project and then
both app server and Java becomes a bit old.

Arne

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#35372 — Re: Web services/SOA - The right way

FromNigel Wade <nmw@local.domain>
Date2016-08-17 10:11 +0100
SubjectRe: Web services/SOA - The right way
Message-ID<e1io1oF8ojrU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#35355
On 16/08/16 10:48, Alberto Salvati wrote:
> Now, I've netbeans + maven + glassfish and tomcat.
> I I'm trying to understand using tutorials and other...and I'm very confused.

The NetBeans based tutorials I worked through required GlassFish. Tomcat didn't work, it doesn't fully support all the frameworks so the tutorial examples which test the web service don't work. I never tried any JAX-RS tutorials because the service I am looking to replace is not RESTful.

At the moment I don't know enough to be of much help, other than to recommend that if you want to try the NetBeans tutorials you'll want to use the GlassFish server.
And to read everything you can find.

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#35425

FromAlberto Salvati <zzzato@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-22 00:01 -0700
Message-ID<b92073ee-24b3-4667-a938-bf5395977e7b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#35320
Hi, people.

Now, I've a (BETA!) webapp developed using netbeans that:

1) runs on Tomcat 8
2) exposes 3 different servelets with doGet override methods 
3) uses a MySql database 

Also, I've a delphi xe7 application that uses this webapp via HTTP protocol.
It sounds like a poor webapp, but I'm a newbie and on september I'll have a demo with a my customer. So, I need something to show.

Next, I'll work about secure my webapp (no basic HTTP authentication).

I'll "disturb" this ng for other questions. :-D

Thanks to all.

A.

















On Sunday, August 14, 2016 at 12:05:17 PM UTC+2, Alberto Salvati wrote:
> Hi, all.
> I'm Alberto e I've more than 20 years of experience with delphi.
> Now, I'm moving to java, so, I'm searching information for the "right way".
> My intention, at this moment, is learn how develop and expose web services usable by mobile (ios/android) or windows dekstop application (maybe, linux too but later..)
> 
> I have seen these links:
> https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19798-01...boe/index.html
> https://netbeans.org/kb/docs/websvc/rest.html (i tried, but it doesn't work for me...)
> 
> but I have not experience to choose the "right way". So, I would need to know:
> 
> 
> 1) standard technology to use (REST/RESTful, business interface..or other?)
> 1) best ide to do it (netbeans, eclipse, jdeveloper...or other?)
> 
> I apologize about my doubts will be sound like "stupid", but I would start this new "adventure" in right way.
> Thanks in advanced for any answer.
> 
> A.

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