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Re: programming...?

From Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: programming...?
Date 2018-02-21 15:44 +0000
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On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 12:29:59 +0100, Robert Spanjaard wrote:

> On 21-02-18 01:47, Kiwi User wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 01:16:08 +0100, Robert Spanjaard wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Why would you buy a Pi to learn a general programming language? I can
>>> imagine buying one for specific applications like Android Things, but
>>> C and Python work just as well on his current system, with his
>>> favorite editor.
>> 
>> A cheap and quite capable machine to use for finding out about non-MS
>> software. There are a LOT of UNIX/Linux systems out there and a lot of
>> RDBMS that aren't SQL Server. Ditto for web servers.
> 
> So you agree that "to learn C, Python and even assembler", buying a
> second computer is unneccessary?
>
I think there's an element of MS lockin even there: to me, anyway, 
understanding make is an integral part of learning C, but aren't you 
stuck with Visual Studio if you use MS C, to say nothing of their 
revolting 'Hungarian' naming standards. They also used to have a rather 
nonstandard C library as well - is that now POSIX compliant?

>  I'm not familiar with databases, but I can't imagine SQL being
> the only one available for Windows. 
>
Well, SQL Server is essentially a Sybase clone, so if you know one you 
probably can still claim to know the other. Access was horrid and I'm 
told, by people who know, that the equivalent member of the SQL Server 
family is no better and just as orphaned when it comes to DBA tools. Both 
Mysql and MariaDB run in Linux and so does PostgreSQL, so there are 
enough OS-agnostic RDBMS to make the OS question irrelevant.

One point, though. If you need to buy the relevant Windows software to 
learn it or buy a VM in order to run Linux on a Windows box, it could 
well be cheaper to get a RaspberryPi and run it headless.
  

-- 
Martin    | martin at
Gregorie  | gregorie dot org

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      Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-20 22:00 +0000
  Re: programming...? Robert Spanjaard <spamtrap@arumes.com> - 2018-02-20 21:09 +0100
    Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-20 12:16 -0800
      Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-20 22:09 +0000
        Re: programming...? Robert Spanjaard <spamtrap@arumes.com> - 2018-02-21 01:16 +0100
          Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-21 00:47 +0000
            Re: programming...? Robert Spanjaard <spamtrap@arumes.com> - 2018-02-21 12:29 +0100
              Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-21 10:42 -0500
              Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-21 15:44 +0000
                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-21 11:03 -0500
                Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-21 08:38 -0800
                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-21 11:54 -0500
                Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-21 10:40 -0800
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                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-21 11:47 -0500
                Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-21 17:35 +0000
                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-21 12:47 -0500
                Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-21 10:45 -0800
                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-21 14:40 -0500
                Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-21 21:23 +0000
                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-21 21:39 -0500
                Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-22 09:06 +0000
                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-24 20:29 -0500
                Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-25 02:12 +0000
                Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-26 08:19 -0800
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                Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-21 21:14 +0000
                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-21 21:35 -0500
                Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-22 09:10 +0000
                Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-22 06:23 -0800
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