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On 2/20/2018 3:39 PM, Eric Douglas wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 11:45:51 AM UTC-5, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> I search Indeed.com for Java developer, the first 2 ads say web, the
>>> third says applications.  This ad says minimum requirements
>>> experience in some of: J2EE, SQL, Oracle, EDI, Unix, and agile
>>> development... and experience in health care.  How do you even get
>>> experience in health care if every job in the industry is looking for
>>> someone with the experience?  How much do they really need someone to
>>> know about the other technologies?
>>
>> Domain knowledge is always good but for most jobs domain
>> knowledge is not strictly needed.
>>
>> If you have the technical skills and a good broad background
>> in software development, then I say apply.
> 
> These people don't ask for much do they?

> The next job ad says requirements:
> - Experience with Java 1.8, JSP, Struts 2, Apache Tomcat, Ant, JDBC, SQL, HTML, Javascript, XML, CSS, XSLT, Git, VCS, Datbase application development in Oracle 11g or later
> - Knowledge/experience of Oracle database, relational databases, and PL/SQL code
> - Java middleware/Java EE
> - HTML, Javascript, CSS
> - Cybersecurity (STIG/OWASP/Security+/CSWF)
> - BS in CS
> - Secret security clearance
> - US citizen
> 
> The next one asks for
> - Experience in Eclipse IDE and Spring framework
> - 4+ years developing web apps using JavaEE, XML, and web services
> - 4+ years with J2EE components such as servlets, JSP, EJB, JDBC, Logging mechanism (ex Log4J), transaction management and thread management
> - 4+ years writing SQL/Functions/Procedures in transactional database such as Oracle, SQL Server, DB2
> - 4+ years knowledge on MVC framework like Spring/Struts/Grails and ORM tools such as Hibernate, MyBatis
> - good understanding of developing web services
> - good understanding of HTML, UI, CSS, and Javascript

> I have a 4 year CIS degree and 20 years coding, the last 18 at the
> same small business on a limited platform, no need for half the stuff
> companies are asking for.  I feel like I'm very good at what I do yet
> underqualified for practically everything.

It depends on how you read these ads.

Do you read them as you need to be an expert in everything, then you may
not be qualified, but very few people will.

If you just take and look at the big picture then it is not so bad.

"Java 1.8, JDBC, XML, XSLT, Spring framework, XML, JDBC, Logging 
mechanism (ex Log4J), thread management, ORM tools such as Hibernate, 
MyBatis"

=> you need to know basic Java programming

"JSP, Struts 2, Apache Tomcat, Java middleware/Java EE, web apps using 
JavaEE, web services, J2EE components such as servlets, JSP, EJB, 
transaction management, MVC framework like Spring/Struts/Grails, web 
services"

=> you need to know something about Java EE technologies

"SQL, Database application development in Oracle 11g or later, Oracle 
database, relational databases, and PL/SQL code, 
SQL/Functions/Procedures in transactional database such as Oracle, SQL 
Server, DB2"

=> you need to know about relational databases


"HTML, Javascript, CSS, HTML, Javascript, CSS, HTML, UI, CSS, and 
Javascript"

=> you need to know about web frontend technology

"Eclipse IDE, Ant, Git, VCS"

=> you need to know about basic Java development tools

Knowing something about each of these 5 categories should not be that
difficult.

Arne

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programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-20 07:38 -0800
  Re: programming...? Jon <jon101011@yahoo.com> - 2018-02-20 17:07 +0100
    Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-20 08:19 -0800
      Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-20 11:45 -0500
        Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-20 12:39 -0800
          Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-20 13:25 -0800
            Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-20 14:00 -0800
            Re: programming...? Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte.net> - 2018-02-21 00:31 +0100
            Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-20 19:24 -0500
          Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-20 19:21 -0500
  Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-20 11:41 -0500
  Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-20 19:37 +0000
    Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-20 12:10 -0800
      Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-20 22:00 +0000
  Re: programming...? Robert Spanjaard <spamtrap@arumes.com> - 2018-02-20 21:09 +0100
    Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-20 12:16 -0800
      Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-20 22:09 +0000
        Re: programming...? Robert Spanjaard <spamtrap@arumes.com> - 2018-02-21 01:16 +0100
          Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-21 00:47 +0000
            Re: programming...? Robert Spanjaard <spamtrap@arumes.com> - 2018-02-21 12:29 +0100
              Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-21 10:42 -0500
              Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-21 15:44 +0000
                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-21 11:03 -0500
                Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-21 08:38 -0800
                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-21 11:54 -0500
                Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-21 10:40 -0800
                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-21 14:35 -0500
                Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-21 11:48 -0800
                Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-21 08:29 -0800
                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-21 11:47 -0500
                Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-21 17:35 +0000
                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-21 12:47 -0500
                Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-21 10:45 -0800
                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-21 14:40 -0500
                Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-21 21:23 +0000
                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-21 21:39 -0500
                Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-22 09:06 +0000
                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-24 20:29 -0500
                Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-25 02:12 +0000
                Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-26 08:19 -0800
                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-03-01 13:17 -0500
                Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-21 10:43 -0800
                Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-21 21:14 +0000
                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-21 21:35 -0500
                Re: programming...? Kiwi User <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-02-22 09:10 +0000
                Re: programming...? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-02-22 06:23 -0800
                Re: programming...? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-02-22 19:32 -0500

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