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Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently

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On 11/11/2015 06:32, Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
> In article <n1i6go$btr$1@dont-email.me>,
>   Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Since retiring I have tried to keep up with what's going on in the 'real
>> world' I'm not entirely sure what world this is but there we are, digress.
>>
>> Anyway. I've just been talking to a guy who invests in IT start ups,
>> mainly financial stuff and I was somewhat taken aback when he said ...
>>
>> "Of course, things have moved on from Java now"
>>
>> Moved on to what I asked
>>
>> "Python said he"
>>
>> "That's what all the kids in the city are using these days"
>>
>> Is it?
>>
>> I have messed around with Python, well it's OK but is this really a
>> robust enough language to be writing financial systems in?
>>
>> It's a rhetorical question
>>
>> Do I now have to throw away my significant investment in Java to learn
>> Python. Am I a dinosaur :-(
>
> Constantly trying new things is the nature of any science.

Absolutely. I try and follow the path of 'lifetime learning' but there's 
just so much to learn, how do you choose ? :-)

> I'm actually a bit disappointed that Java is still the big thing.  The
> syntax is cluttered with fixes for old mistakes and there's a big
> distrust of Oracle.  My previous employer wouldn't touch Java 8 even
> through the uglier syntax is useful.
>
> I tried Golang but its creators' hatred of data modeling turned ugly for
> only moderately difficult tasks.  I was going to play with Swift but its
> memory management nightmare is a tough sell.  I'm skeptical of Node.js
> but I think it's something I should learn to use soon.

The thing I find slightly disconcerting is the apparent ease with which 
all the knowledge and experience built up over the years in a language 
is discarded in favour of thr latest greatest thing. Do these latest 
greatest languages have any where near the infrastructure that Java does?

Anyway, my current learning path is getting my head around the Google 
Analytics API. All you need to completely destroy any credibility of 
analytics for any site is the unique identifier for that site which is 
easily visible in plain text in any source code viewer.

You can ghost the analytics data so that it is meaningless.
I think Google have dopped one here, and yes it is OT because there is a 
Java interface, although I haven't compiled against the jar(s) yet.

Anyway, I have Python here and have managed to write a very simple 
client/server pair in a few lines of code. Looks like a duffers 
interface to C frome here. Not sure what to make of Duck Type 
'polymorphism' though :-)



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Things have 'moved on' apparently Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 12:32 +0000
  Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-11-06 08:25 -0800
    Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 12:02 -0800
      Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-06 19:46 -0500
        Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-07 17:21 +0000
          Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-07 12:50 -0500
        Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 05:37 -0800
          Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-09 09:00 -0500
          Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-09 14:56 +0000
          Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-09 19:25 +0000
      Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-07 21:57 -0500
    Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-07 22:02 -0500
      Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-11-08 02:00 -0600
        Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-08 08:44 -0500
          Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-11-08 13:08 -0600
        Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2015-11-08 18:54 +0100
          Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-08 21:12 +0000
            Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-08 17:05 -0500
              Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-08 23:24 +0000
                Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-08 19:40 -0500
                Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-08 21:32 -0500
                Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-09 15:15 +0000
      Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-11-08 12:10 -0800
        Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-08 16:00 -0500
        Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-08 16:51 -0500
  Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2015-11-08 00:55 +0100
  Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-07 21:28 -0500
    Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-07 21:36 -0500
  Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-11-08 02:12 -0600
  Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently askfor <askfor@nowhere.net> - 2015-11-09 18:02 +0100
  Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-11-10 22:32 -0800
    Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 07:52 +0000
      Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently ross.finlayson@gmail.com - 2015-11-19 23:28 -0800

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