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Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently

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On 11/7/2015 9:28 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 11/6/2015 7:32 AM, Eternal Hope wrote:
>> Since retiring I have tried to keep up with what's going on in the 'real
>> world' I'm not entirely sure what world this is but there we are,
>> digress.
>>
>> Anyway. I've just been talking to a guy who invests in IT start ups,
>> mainly financial stuff and I was somewhat taken aback when he said ...
>>
>> "Of course, things have moved on from Java now"
>>
>> Moved on to what I asked
>>
>> "Python said he"
>>
>> "That's what all the kids in the city are using these days"
>>
>> Is it?
>>
>> I have messed around with Python, well it's OK but is this really a
>> robust enough language to be writing financial systems in?
>>
>> It's a rhetorical question
>>
>> Do I now have to throw away my significant investment in Java to learn
>> Python. Am I a dinosaur :-(
>
> Question:
>
> Are companies hiring Python developers instead of Java developers?
>
> Facts:
>
> dice.com (US):
>
> 17274 jobs requiring Java currently
> 6249 jobs requiring Python currently
>
> naukri.com (India):
>
> 25047 jobs requiring Java currently
> 4991 jobs requiring Python currently
>
>
> itjobwatch.co.uk (UK):
>
> 15420 jobs requiring Java within 3 months
> 5863 jobs requiring Python within 3 months
>
> Conclusion:
>
> Even though Python is quite popular then in the big IT markets
> Java demand is about 3 times Python demand.
>
> (the market in your specific country/area can obviously be different)
>
> Question:
>
> Are people more interested in learning Python than in Java?
>
> Fact:
>
> stackoverflow.com:
>
> 5434 questions tagged with Java this week
> 3380 questions tagged with Python this week
>
> tiobe.com (mostly based on search popularity):
>
> Java 20.403% rating
> Python 3.771% rating
>
> Conclusion:
>
> Even though Python is quite popular then people are still
> more interested in Java than Python.

Java has gotten a reputation for being slightly old fashioned in
some circles.

But there are some factors that keep Java popular:
* Java EE is the most popular middleware platform and the most
   popular web backend platform - those systems are typically
   relative new only 0-15 years old so they will stay around
   for many years
* A lot of high-end enterprise software from Oracle, SAP and
   IBM comes with Java as supported tool set
* two of the hottest newer technologies are actually
   mostly Java based: smartphone apps (Android has about 80%
   market share), big data (Hadoop, HBase, Cassandra etc.
   totally dominates this market)

Arne

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Things have 'moved on' apparently Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 12:32 +0000
  Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-11-06 08:25 -0800
    Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 12:02 -0800
      Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-06 19:46 -0500
        Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-07 17:21 +0000
          Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-07 12:50 -0500
        Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 05:37 -0800
          Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-09 09:00 -0500
          Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-09 14:56 +0000
          Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-09 19:25 +0000
      Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-07 21:57 -0500
    Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-07 22:02 -0500
      Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-11-08 02:00 -0600
        Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-08 08:44 -0500
          Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-11-08 13:08 -0600
        Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2015-11-08 18:54 +0100
          Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-08 21:12 +0000
            Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-08 17:05 -0500
              Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-08 23:24 +0000
                Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-08 19:40 -0500
                Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-08 21:32 -0500
                Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-09 15:15 +0000
      Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-11-08 12:10 -0800
        Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-08 16:00 -0500
        Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-08 16:51 -0500
  Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2015-11-08 00:55 +0100
  Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-07 21:28 -0500
    Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-07 21:36 -0500
  Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-11-08 02:12 -0600
  Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently askfor <askfor@nowhere.net> - 2015-11-09 18:02 +0100
  Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-11-10 22:32 -0800
    Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 07:52 +0000
      Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently ross.finlayson@gmail.com - 2015-11-19 23:28 -0800

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