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Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently

Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Date 2015-11-19 23:28 -0800
References <n1i6go$btr$1@dont-email.me> <mcmurtrie-E938C9.22320810112015@news.sonic.net> <n1us0c$f08$1@dont-email.me>
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Subject Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently
From ross.finlayson@gmail.com

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On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 11:53:06 PM UTC-8, Eternal Hope wrote:
> On 11/11/2015 06:32, Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
> > In article <n1i6go$btr$1@dont-email.me>,
> >   Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Since retiring I have tried to keep up with what's going on in the 'real
> >> world' I'm not entirely sure what world this is but there we are, digress.
> >>
> >> Anyway. I've just been talking to a guy who invests in IT start ups,
> >> mainly financial stuff and I was somewhat taken aback when he said ...
> >>
> >> "Of course, things have moved on from Java now"
> >>

It's a policy in Amazon.com that all 
new development is in Java.  All the 
telecom outfits, all the middleware is 
Java, all the Android apps, Java-ish 
(to "Dalvik"), .NET with C# (or Java), 
the other retail outfits, Java everywhere, 
Java/Spring and maybe Guice, of course, 
real coders use C/C++ like Microsoft does, 
or as, say "gcc" or how Unix/Linux runs.

Python is for people who barely know Emacs.  
I don't even know ctags in my vim which I zsh.

Ruby, Python, Ruby on Rails, Jython, groovy 
and scala, "Java" Script, yes, the world 
has gone on.

Then everybody is expected to know "Web 
Services" but say "ReST" and there are 
myriad conventions all over "HTTP" verbs 
and what a "barely there" in terms of 
"tip it back over".  You have to know 
your XSD and use WSDLs then for what 
some few conventions add up the usual 
business object logic binding to toss 
into the massively overscaled runtime 
on the EC2 box for the cloud to amortize 
that back down to a .0001% runtime 3KB 
thread.

Yeah, they used to have a guy and he'd 
get paged and recycle the power switch.

(It was already on.)


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Things have 'moved on' apparently Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 12:32 +0000
  Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-11-06 08:25 -0800
    Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 12:02 -0800
      Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-06 19:46 -0500
        Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-07 17:21 +0000
          Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-07 12:50 -0500
        Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 05:37 -0800
          Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-09 09:00 -0500
          Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-09 14:56 +0000
          Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-09 19:25 +0000
      Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-07 21:57 -0500
    Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-07 22:02 -0500
      Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-11-08 02:00 -0600
        Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-08 08:44 -0500
          Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-11-08 13:08 -0600
        Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2015-11-08 18:54 +0100
          Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-08 21:12 +0000
            Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-08 17:05 -0500
              Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-08 23:24 +0000
                Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-08 19:40 -0500
                Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-08 21:32 -0500
                Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-09 15:15 +0000
      Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-11-08 12:10 -0800
        Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-08 16:00 -0500
        Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-08 16:51 -0500
  Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2015-11-08 00:55 +0100
  Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-07 21:28 -0500
    Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-07 21:36 -0500
  Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-11-08 02:12 -0600
  Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently askfor <askfor@nowhere.net> - 2015-11-09 18:02 +0100
  Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-11-10 22:32 -0800
    Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 07:52 +0000
      Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently ross.finlayson@gmail.com - 2015-11-19 23:28 -0800

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