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| From | Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.java.programmer |
| Subject | Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently |
| Date | 2015-11-08 16:00 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <n1od15$hmn$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <n1i6go$btr$1@dont-email.me> <mcmurtrie-7C2FC0.08251706112015@news.sonic.net> <n1me0f$6d5$1@speranza.aioe.org> <mcmurtrie-2D2140.12102208112015@news.sonic.net> |
On 11/8/2015 3:10 PM, Kevin McMurtrie wrote: > In article <n1me0f$6d5$1@speranza.aioe.org>, > Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote: > >> On 11/6/2015 11:25 AM, Kevin McMurtrie wrote: >>> Based on my recent job hunt, I'd say Java is holding steady as an older >>> language. It's not going away but nobody is rushing for the latest >>> Oracle upgrades either. It still has a bad reputation for easily >>> becoming bloated with libraries and add-ons. >> >> Most Java EE projects tend to end up including a rather large number >> of libraries. >> >> But what is the alternative? Writing the stuff one self? That does >> not sound better to me! > > It sometimes does for me. > > There's a point where the overhead of integration, bug workarounds, and > limitations of a 3rd party library are higher than writing a solution > for scratch. There's a LOT of Oracle, Apache, and Spring code that I > won't touch because it's slow, buggy, has outdated APIs, and it's going > to download the whole Internet through its dependency chain. > I would add that when you write it yourself, you get *exactly* what you need, without a lot of extra overhead and/or trying to shoehorn your needs into someone else's libraries. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ==================
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Things have 'moved on' apparently Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 12:32 +0000
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-11-06 08:25 -0800
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 12:02 -0800
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-06 19:46 -0500
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-07 17:21 +0000
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-07 12:50 -0500
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 05:37 -0800
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-09 09:00 -0500
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-09 14:56 +0000
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-09 19:25 +0000
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-07 21:57 -0500
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-07 22:02 -0500
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-11-08 02:00 -0600
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-08 08:44 -0500
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-11-08 13:08 -0600
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2015-11-08 18:54 +0100
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-08 21:12 +0000
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-08 17:05 -0500
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-08 23:24 +0000
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-08 19:40 -0500
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-08 21:32 -0500
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-11-09 15:15 +0000
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-11-08 12:10 -0800
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-11-08 16:00 -0500
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-08 16:51 -0500
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2015-11-08 00:55 +0100
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-07 21:28 -0500
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-11-07 21:36 -0500
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-11-08 02:12 -0600
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently askfor <askfor@nowhere.net> - 2015-11-09 18:02 +0100
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2015-11-10 22:32 -0800
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 07:52 +0000
Re: Things have 'moved on' apparently ross.finlayson@gmail.com - 2015-11-19 23:28 -0800
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