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| From | Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> |
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| Subject | Re: Is this safe? |
| Date | Wed, 05 Apr 2023 11:08:54 -0700 |
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Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
>> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
>>> Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>> On 02/21/23 6:12 AM, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
>>>>> Not what you're asking, but the common convention in C++ is to
>>>>> separate the type specification from the variable, i.e. `auto& c`
>>>>> not `auto &c`.
>>>>>
>>>>> But on the third and gripping hand, in this case I'd write `char&
>>>>> c`, since there's no advantage in `auto` here and it obscures
>>>>> things.
>>>>
>>>> Not really. This is a misleading "convention" that has no reason to
>>>> exist. In this case the `&` is a part of an individual declarator,
>>>> not a part of decl-specifier-seq. There's no reason to group the
>>>> syntactic elements differently. It achieves nothing.
>>>
>>> I would say it achieves less than nothing, because it's misleading.
>>> It's like writing a+b * c ; the grouping suggested by the spacing
>>> doesn't match the actual precedence. In almost all cases it's a
>>> mistake to use "contra-syntactic" spacing, and attaching '&' or '*'
>>> to a type specifier is definitely one of those mistakes.
>>
>> I prefer the "int *foo;" spacing (conventional in C) because it follows
>> the syntax, but the "int* foo;" spacing has become a convention in C++
>> (probably because Stroustrup uses it in his books), and I use it in C++
>> for that reason. I also avoid declarations where it would make a
>> difference to a human reader, like "int* foo, bar;".
>>
>> Most development is on existing code. It would be poor practice to use
>> the "better" spacing on new code while leaving the existing code (which
>> most likely uses the C++ conventional spacing) as it is. It would also
>> be poor practice to change all the spacing in a large body of existing
>> code.
>
> I'm sure there are lots of people who agree with that opinion,
> but that doesn't make it anything more than just an opinion.
Obviously.
Did you have anything *useful* to add?
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for XCOM Labs
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */
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Re: Is this safe? "james...@alumni.caltech.edu" <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-02-23 08:28 -0800
Re: Is this safe? Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-02-23 17:16 +0000
Re: Is this safe? "james...@alumni.caltech.edu" <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-02-23 22:24 -0800
Re: Is this safe? "james...@alumni.caltech.edu" <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-02-22 21:30 -0800
Re: Is this safe? Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-02-23 09:31 +0000
Re: Is this safe? "james...@alumni.caltech.edu" <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-02-23 22:00 -0800
Re: Is this safe? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-02-23 22:20 -0800
Re: Is this safe? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-02-24 01:34 -0500
Re: Is this safe? Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-02-24 10:32 +0000
Re: Is this safe? "james...@alumni.caltech.edu" <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-02-25 00:19 -0800
Re: Is this safe? Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2023-02-22 08:09 -0800
Re: Is this safe? Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2023-02-21 22:32 -0800
Re: Is this safe? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-02-22 08:32 -0800
Re: Is this safe? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-02-22 09:17 -0800
Re: Is this safe? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-04-04 23:28 -0700
Re: Is this safe? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-04-05 11:08 -0700
Re: Is this safe? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-07-20 09:22 -0700
Re: Is this safe? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-07-20 16:42 -0700
Re: Is this safe? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-08-08 05:46 -0700
Re: Is this safe? Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2023-02-21 08:15 -0800
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