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| From | Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | aus.cars, aus.computers, aus.legal |
| Subject | Re: The real cost of net zero |
| Date | 2024-12-24 20:16 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lsvcfiFspo2U3@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 24/12/2024 8:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> alvey wrote:
>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> alvey wrote:
>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>> alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann,
>>>>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why would anyone interested in this subject bother with a piece
>>>>>>>> by a political journalist & produced by Murdoch? Try finding
>>>>>>>> something by qualified experts in the subject.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so everything that was said is wrong or a lie, is that it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope. That's not what I said.
>>>>>
>>>>> you implied it
>>>>
>>>> I implied no such thing.
>>>>
>>>> It's quite straight-forward. The presenter was a career political
>>>> journo with zero experience or qualifications in the subject *and*
>>>> in the employ of Murdoch,
>>>
>>> that's irrelevant to the truth or not of what is said
>>
>> I actually don't recall any "truth" being told. All I can recall was a
>> coal-train load of Old Energy employees giving their *opinion*. Could
>> you remind me of the facts that were listed?
>
> it's a fact the we could have cheap electricity now if govt had not
> junked our coal power stations, and so called green solutions are not
> necessarily green considering the cost of establishment, infrastructure,
> construction and maintenance.
>
The government is not junking the coal fired power stations, they don't
even *own* them. The private energy operators are making choices, get
rid of coal because cleaning them up to meet emissions standards is too
costly.
https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2023/12/coal-will-be-all-but-gone-by-2034-under-australias-latest-energy
>>
>>
>>
>> alvey
>> Mentioning that they didn't even mention that the brown coal whose use
>> they were recommending was the very worst type of the stuff.
>
>
--
Xeno
Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 23:13 +1100
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Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:41 +1100
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Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 12:41 +1100
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Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-23 21:27 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 07:16 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:17 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 11:32 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 13:59 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:17 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:46 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:29 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 18:23 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:48 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 15:40 +1000
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Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 11:42 +1100
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Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 22:08 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 23:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 23:46 +1100
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Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:26 +1100
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Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 06:03 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 13:25 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 14:16 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 15:18 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-26 16:31 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-26 17:40 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-26 18:58 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 18:32 +1000
Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-23 21:34 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:34 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:26 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:20 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:35 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 15:41 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:28 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:02 +1100
Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:17 +1100
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