Re: The real cost of net zero

From	Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com>
Newsgroups	aus.cars, aus.computers, aus.legal
Subject	Re: The real cost of net zero
Date	2024-12-23 13:57 +1100
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alvey wrote:
> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> alvey wrote:
>>> Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 21/12/2024 11:50 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Get the facts. radio interview I recorded with Chris Uhlmann, 
>>>>>> award winning journalist and Sky News Political Contributor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://auslink.info/audio/netzero.mp4 (20Kb)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> or watch the documentary ..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxpieEQ7bc
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **Sky News? Are you fucking serious, you fucking moron?
>>>>
>>>> in ancient times it was customary to kill a messenger who brought a 
>>>> King news he didn't want to hear. I see you're following that 
>>>> example. deal with the facts. it's not about not reducing carbon 
>>>> emissions, but how it's done, and setting realistic targets.
>>>
>>> You're doing it again here felix. Don't bleat about 'shooting the 
>>> messenger' when you're adjudging the message to be "fact".
>>
>> so tell me what was said that was not 'fact'? but of course you won't 
>> since you didn't listen/watch.
>
> I actually did watch a fair bit of it felix (an hour+ is a big ask), 
> but couldn't see the point of continuing to listen to a succession of 
> self-interested Old Power talking heads. Especially when they were all 
> reading from the same script, "Coal power works when the wind doesn't 
> blow and the sun doesn't shine" they chanted. Whoopee. Batteries 
> specifics anyone? Nope. Up to the 25min mark, the best that the OPs 
> could do to diss the battery storage of NP was chorus that the cost of 
> battery storage was "huge". Adjectives don't cut it as a decisive 
> argument. Neither does interviewing one Canberra pensioner complaining 
> about the cost of her electricity bill a decent sample size make. They 
> were, like Trump, big on fear and opinion, but relatively light on 
> (haha) facts and stats.
>
> Also, I didn't see a single pro-New Power advocate.

I didn't watch the doco. I just put that there for reference.

>
>> but if you had taken the trouble to know what you're talking about, 
>> you would know that it's not about denying climate change.
>
> Yeah, it is. That plus "huge" dollop of self-interest on top.
>
> Fact is felix that burning fossil fuels has been a major contributor 
> to creating an over-heating and struggling planet. It seems a 
> no-brainer to
> ditch it and use sources that are both infinite and free, *even* if it 
> does cost more.
>

we know that. but the fact is we could have kept our coal power plants 
until we had viable power sources and there would have been NO effect on 
global warming considering the minuscule effect our total emissions do 
have.

>
> alvey
> Again suggesting that you read something that's not Murdoch. It's not 
> illegal you know. Yet.
>

truth is truth and facts are facts irrespective of the source.

-- 
Have a nice day!..
stay sane, be happy, and enjoy living.

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The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-21 11:50 +1100
  Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-21 14:15 +1100
    Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-21 17:43 +1100
    Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-21 17:59 +1100
      Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-21 18:48 +1100
      Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-21 19:33 +1100
        Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-21 20:46 +1100
          Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 08:09 +1100
            Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 09:41 +1100
              Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 00:08 +0000
              Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 11:39 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 12:09 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 12:45 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 13:51 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 16:13 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 16:22 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-22 17:15 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 16:42 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 07:34 +1000
                Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:02 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 12:35 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-22 13:29 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 13:41 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-22 15:27 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-22 18:31 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-22 18:33 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:43 +1100
        Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:38 +1100
          Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:13 +1100
          Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 13:40 +1100
            Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-23 14:08 +1100
              Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:25 +1100
            Re: The real cost of net zero Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-12-23 14:08 +1100
              Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:26 +1100
            Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 15:40 +1100
              Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 16:30 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 17:14 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 19:24 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 20:25 +1100
            Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-23 21:00 +1100
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                Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 22:58 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 23:13 +1100
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                Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-25 08:28 +1100
      Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 07:23 +1000
        Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:22 +1100
          Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 11:21 +1000
            Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 13:57 +1100
              Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-23 15:16 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 18:07 +1000
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                Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 18:41 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-24 19:48 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-12-24 20:07 +1100
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                Re: The real cost of net zero Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-26 16:29 +1000
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                Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 07:24 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-25 08:20 +1100
                Re: The real cost of net zero Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-25 10:43 +1100
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          Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 14:58 +1100
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            Re: The real cost of net zero "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 15:44 +1100
              Re: The real cost of net zero Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-12-23 16:32 +1100
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                Re: The real cost of net zero Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2024-12-24 12:29 +1100
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            Re: The real cost of net zero alvey <Factman@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 18:32 +1000
              Re: The real cost of net zero Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-23 21:34 +1100
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