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Help with a distro of Linux

Started byBig Al <Big_Al@invalid.com>
First post2016-09-22 10:24 -0400
Last post2016-09-23 20:10 +0200
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  Help with a distro of Linux Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2016-09-22 10:24 -0400
    Re: Help with a distro of Linux Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-22 08:11 -0700
      Re: Help with a distro of Linux Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2016-09-22 11:42 -0400
        Re: Help with a distro of Linux Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-22 10:10 -0700
    Re: Help with a distro of Linux Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2016-09-22 16:30 +0100
    Re: Help with a distro of Linux Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-09-22 15:41 +0000
    Re: Help with a distro of Linux "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2016-09-22 18:26 +0200
    Re: Help with a distro of Linux azigni <azigni@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-22 17:12 +0000
      Re: Help with a distro of Linux Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-22 11:44 -0700
        Re: Help with a distro of Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-24 11:52 -0700
      Re: Help with a distro of Linux Askfor <askfor@nowhere.net> - 2016-09-23 13:49 +0200
    Re: Help with a distro of Linux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-23 00:02 +0200
      Re: Help with a distro of Linux Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2016-09-22 18:46 -0400
        Re: Help with a distro of Linux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-23 01:46 +0200
    Re: Help with a distro of Linux mick <nospam@junk.mail> - 2016-09-23 01:41 +0100
    Re: Help with a distro of Linux F Volker <here@home.net> - 2016-09-23 09:38 +0700
      Re: Help with a distro of Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-22 19:54 -0700
        Re: Help with a distro of Linux F Volker <here@home.net> - 2016-09-23 14:55 +0700
          Re: Help with a distro of Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-09-23 11:24 +0200
            Re: Help with a distro of Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-23 08:22 -0700
              Re: Help with a distro of Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-09-23 17:29 +0200
                Re: Help with a distro of Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-23 08:31 -0700
                  Re: Help with a distro of Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-09-23 17:34 +0200
                    Re: Help with a distro of Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-23 08:43 -0700
                      Re: Help with a distro of Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-09-23 17:44 +0200
                        Re: Help with a distro of Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-23 08:55 -0700
                          Re: Help with a distro of Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-09-23 18:00 +0200
                            Re: Help with a distro of Linux Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-09-23 16:23 +0000
                              Re: Help with a distro of Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-09-23 18:30 +0200
                                Re: Help with a distro of Linux Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-09-23 17:02 +0000
                                  Re: Help with a distro of Linux Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-09-23 20:43 +0000
                                    Re: Help with a distro of Linux Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-09-23 21:41 +0000
                                      Re: Help with a distro of Linux William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-09-23 22:51 +0100
                                        Re: Help with a distro of Linux Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-09-23 21:59 +0000
                                    Re: Help with a distro of Linux "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-24 00:00 +0200
                                    Re: Help with a distro of Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-23 16:14 -0700
                            Re: Help with a distro of Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-23 09:41 -0700
          Re: Help with a distro of Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-23 08:29 -0700
    Re: Help with a distro of Linux Askfor <askfor@nowhere.net> - 2016-09-23 14:02 +0200
      Re: Help with a distro of Linux Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2016-09-23 10:53 -0400
        Re: Help with a distro of Linux Askfor <askfor@nowhere.net> - 2016-09-23 20:10 +0200

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#38973 — Help with a distro of Linux

FromBig Al <Big_Al@invalid.com>
Date2016-09-22 10:24 -0400
SubjectHelp with a distro of Linux
Message-ID<ns0pjo$18if$1@gioia.aioe.org>
I'm using Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.3 64bit.

I hear people talking about Ubuntu, or MATE or KDE etc and I've tried a 
few other versions (distros) of linux and have never quite seemed to 
find one I like.

I'd almost list to have a table of DE and features etc for each distro 
to pick from.

I'm happy with mint cinnamon.  It has a simple windows like menu, 
categories breakdown in the menu, no big gaudy icon type side bars for a 
menu.  I can have panel at top and or bottom.

But I wonder if there are other DE that are similar or distros that are 
similar and might be better.   I guess I chose mint because it was high 
on distro watch so I guessed it was best.   Maybe there isn't but I'd 
take suggestions.   I can load any in my VM and test.

Thanks.

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#38974

FromMike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Date2016-09-22 08:11 -0700
Message-ID<e4iam0F4ljhU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#38973
Big Al wrote:
> I'm using Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.3 64bit.

I like Cinnamon.  I like Mint 17.  I have a lot of old hardware that I 
try to use lower resource demands, so I lean toward Mint XFCE instead of 
Cinnamon or Mate.

> I hear people talking about Ubuntu, or MATE or KDE etc and I've tried a
> few other versions (distros) of linux and have never quite seemed to
> find one I like.

Some people consider XFCE to be especially customizable if you like to 
tinker with the appearance.

> I'd almost list to have a table of DE and features etc for each distro
> to pick from.

Hmmm.  Like some kind of article about how to choose a linux distro.  I 
remember something like that.

> I'm happy with mint cinnamon.  It has a simple windows like menu,
> categories breakdown in the menu, no big gaudy icon type side bars for a
> menu.  I can have panel at top and or bottom.
>
> But I wonder if there are other DE that are similar or distros that are
> similar and might be better.   I guess I chose mint because it was high
> on distro watch so I guessed it was best.   Maybe there isn't but I'd
> take suggestions.   I can load any in my VM and test.

The advantage of Mint is that it is based on Ub which has tons of apps 
in its repos, partly because of its Deb heritage and partly because 
there are a lot of Ub developers; another Ub-kin advantage is the myriad 
.ppa/s developed for apps which aren't in the repos; another Ub-kin 
advantage is the number of users and helpers to ask questions of or 
articles to read to get help.

I wonder if it is possible for you to figure out what it is that you 
want that you don't have in your Cinnamon and whether or how it would be 
possible to achieve it in Cinnamon or some other, such as XFCE.

I would encourage you to -1- try Mint 17.3 or 18 XFCE -2- experiment 
with tinkering with the appearance or other features which you want changed


-- 
Mike Easter

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#38977

FromBig Al <Big_Al@invalid.com>
Date2016-09-22 11:42 -0400
Message-ID<ns0u4r$1goa$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#38974
On 09/22/2016 11:11 AM, Mike Easter wrote:
> I wonder if it is possible for you to figure out what it is that you
> want that you don't have in your Cinnamon and whether or how it would be
> possible to achieve it in Cinnamon or some other, such as XFCE.

The problem is, you don't know you miss it till you see that it's there 
and you could have had it. I'll give XFCE a try, that is one I haven't 
done yet.

I'm good enough to have tinkered with my own icon, desktop and borders 
themes and modified others that were close to get them closer to what I 
want.   Remove transparency, change color, customize icons, things like 
that.  So the look is good, the feel is good.

Since so many people use mint in Distrowatch.com I guess maybe I'm at 
the top of the hill already.   There isn't much I can get to work well 
except the typical things people complain about like wine is such an 
outdated version of windows, that type of thing, but I won't get that 
fixed in my lifetime.

Thanks.

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#38979

FromMike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Date2016-09-22 10:10 -0700
Message-ID<e4ihjgF6bglU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#38977
Big Al wrote:
> The problem is, you don't know you miss it till you see that it's there
> and you could have had it.

One advantage of trying lots and lots of different distros as opposed to 
reading generically about DEs is the opportunity to see how different 
'distro adapters' have tricked out their particular implementation.

As one example, LXLE is like Lubuntu in that it is based on Ub with an 
LXDE DE, but it is *distinctly* different from Lub in how he does it.

As another example, Linux Lite is another Ub which uses XFCE as its DE, 
but it is significantly different in how it goes about helping the user 
'do things' to customize it.  You can read the reviews such as DW and 
Gary Newell's, but you kinda haveta try it to feel it.  I get a lot from 
booting a live, but some prefer a VM.

http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2016/09/an-everyday-linux-user-review-of-linux.html 


http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20160718#lite

http://www.lxle.net/

-- 
Mike Easter

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#38975

FromWhiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com>
Date2016-09-22 16:30 +0100
Message-ID<slrnnu7u8n.ari.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net>
In reply to#38973
On 2016-09-22, Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> wrote:
> I'm using Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.3 64bit.
>
> I hear people talking about Ubuntu, or MATE or KDE etc and I've tried a 
> few other versions (distros) of linux and have never quite seemed to 
> find one I like.
>
> I'd almost list to have a table of DE and features etc for each distro 
> to pick from.
>
> I'm happy with mint cinnamon.  It has a simple windows like menu, 
> categories breakdown in the menu, no big gaudy icon type side bars for a 
> menu.  I can have panel at top and or bottom.
>
> But I wonder if there are other DE that are similar or distros that are 
> similar and might be better.   I guess I chose mint because it was high 
> on distro watch so I guessed it was best.   Maybe there isn't but I'd 
> take suggestions.   I can load any in my VM and test.
>
> Thanks.

You don't have to change distro to try a different 'Desktop
Environment'; just install whatever you want to try.  You might have to
build some of the less popular ones from source, but most distros have
a good selection in their repos. 

Some distros do modify the Desktop Environment the installation system
defaults to, and sometimes some other DEs they make available.

Arch Linux lists 22 Desktop Environments, and more Window Managers than
I care to count.  Neither list is definitive. 

<https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/desktop_environment#List_of_desktop_environments>
<https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Window_manager#List_of_window_managers>

-- 
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
--  Whiskers 
-- ~~~~~~~~~~

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#38976

FromStef <not@this.address.com>
Date2016-09-22 15:41 +0000
Message-ID<ns0u2n$1h2n$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#38973
Big Al wrote:

> I'm using Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.3 64bit.
>
> I hear people talking about Ubuntu, or MATE or KDE etc and I've tried a 
> few other versions (distros) of linux and have never quite seemed to 
> find one I like.
>
> I'd almost list to have a table of DE and features etc for each distro 
> to pick from.
>
> I'm happy with mint cinnamon.  It has a simple windows like menu, 
> categories breakdown in the menu, no big gaudy icon type side bars for a 
> menu.  I can have panel at top and or bottom.
>
> But I wonder if there are other DE that are similar or distros that are 
> similar and might be better.   I guess I chose mint because it was high 
> on distro watch so I guessed it was best.   Maybe there isn't but I'd 
> take suggestions.   I can load any in my VM and test.

A quick search resulted in

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment

It should get you started in your search for the "perfect" DE.

Or you can just run a window manager (there are dozens) with menus and a
panel or two.  Not a true DE, but accomplishes the same thing.  I run
Openbox with a single LXPanel.

Stef

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#38978

From"J.O. Aho" <user@example.net>
Date2016-09-22 18:26 +0200
Message-ID<e4if1jF5nh5U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#38973
On 09/22/2016 04:24 PM, Big Al wrote:
> I'm using Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.3 64bit.
> 
> I hear people talking about Ubuntu, or MATE or KDE etc and I've tried a
> few other versions (distros) of linux and have never quite seemed to
> find one I like.
> 
> I'm happy with mint cinnamon.  It has a simple windows like menu,
> categories breakdown in the menu, no big gaudy icon type side bars
> for a menu.  I can have panel at top and or bottom.
>

Seems to me you found one you like, not really no need to look for
something else, unless there is something you miss and if there would be
something you miss would need to tell what you miss and how you do use
your computer, as there ain't a distro that fits all.



> I'd almost list to have a table of DE and features etc for each distro
> to pick from.

You can take a look at distrowatch.com, they list the major
applications, but have you tried KDE in one distro, it will most likely
not be different in another (more than icons and default theme).



> But I wonder if there are other DE that are similar or distros that are
> similar and might be better.   I guess I chose mint because it was high
> on distro watch so I guessed it was best.   Maybe there isn't but I'd
> take suggestions.   I can load any in my VM and test.

enlightment
lxqt
pantheon
gnustep
windowmaker
xfce
fluxbox

and there are a number of window manager like ctwm which you can also
use, nothing of these should require you to install another distro...


-- 

 //Aho

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#38980

Fromazigni <azigni@yahoo.com>
Date2016-09-22 17:12 +0000
Message-ID<uiUEz.50558$ba.38107@fx25.iad>
In reply to#38973
I distro hopped for over a decade, and one day realized Linux is Linux. 
You are correct it all happens in the desktop. The rest is how the 
distribution chooses to package and manage the programs.

If you are happy with your distribution, and your desktop, yet want to 
try another distro there are plenty of live editions that you can try out 
which won't make any changes to your hard drive.

You can also install a virtual machine and run other distributions in a 
vm, but vm's require more memory, and a little more tinkering.

Lastly, you can load different de, but they are usually vanilla, and not 
a tailored de as you have in your Mint Mate. This also requires more 
tinkering.

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#38981

FromMike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Date2016-09-22 11:44 -0700
Message-ID<e4in47F7menU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#38980
azigni wrote:
> I distro hopped for over a decade, and one day realized Linux is Linux.
> You are correct it all happens in the desktop. The rest is how the
> distribution chooses to package and manage the programs.

Distro hopping is better than ever for the purpose of seeing lots of 
different looks and ways to do things.  That helps one to decide how 
they might want to tweak their installed distro.

(And/But) It is easier to do the hopping than to do some of the tweaking 
which has been discovered.

I was recently pleased to see how strongly Ub had embraced Mate by 
making it one of the flavors and with the Ub Mate Welcome function which 
boots on the live and also facilitates installation of some apps after 
the install.

I tend to think of Mate's and Cinnamon's popularity as arising 
significantly from Mint's embrace, but Ub is also doing a good job with 
Mate now.

Cinnamon, not as much.  If one wants to Cinnamon 3 Ub, they need to do 
it with .ppa, not the repos.  So, I think Cinnamon is no where near 
being an official Ub flavor like Mate.

I would assume that is because there are already two Ub flavors from 
Gnome3, Unity and Gnome.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#39122

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-09-24 11:52 -0700
Message-ID<D40C1982.7E4C9%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#38981
On 9/22/16, 11:44 AM, in article e4in47F7menU1@mid.individual.net, "Mike
Easter" <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:

> azigni wrote:
>> I distro hopped for over a decade, and one day realized Linux is Linux.
>> You are correct it all happens in the desktop. The rest is how the
>> distribution chooses to package and manage the programs.
> 
> Distro hopping is better than ever for the purpose of seeing lots of
> different looks and ways to do things.  That helps one to decide how
> they might want to tweak their installed distro.
> 
> (And/But) It is easier to do the hopping than to do some of the tweaking
> which has been discovered.
> 
> I was recently pleased to see how strongly Ub had embraced Mate by
> making it one of the flavors and with the Ub Mate Welcome function which
> boots on the live and also facilitates installation of some apps after
> the install.
> 
> I tend to think of Mate's and Cinnamon's popularity as arising
> significantly from Mint's embrace, but Ub is also doing a good job with
> Mate now.
> 
> Cinnamon, not as much.  If one wants to Cinnamon 3 Ub, they need to do
> it with .ppa, not the repos.  So, I think Cinnamon is no where near
> being an official Ub flavor like Mate.
> 
> I would assume that is because there are already two Ub flavors from
> Gnome3, Unity and Gnome.

One value of working with different distros, DEs, and even OSs is you get to
understand how your current preferred system works better. You might find
reason to change, or you might not, but either way you learn what works for
you better. It is similar to learning multiple languages, even if you still
mostly speak your native language you learn it better.

-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#39024

FromAskfor <askfor@nowhere.net>
Date2016-09-23 13:49 +0200
Message-ID<ns35js$r1g$1@ls237.t-com.hr>
In reply to#38980
azigni wrote:
> I distro hopped for over a decade, and one day realized Linux is Linux.
> You are correct it all happens in the desktop. The rest is how the
> distribution chooses to package and manage the programs.
>

In essence, yes. Not quite true in real life.

Particular distros offer some Deskto Environments in their repositories, 
and some they don't. You will have to work harder to get Gnome on 
Slackware, for example.

There is a question of reliability. Some distros offer more packages, 
and some of them happen to be broken. Some offer less packages in 
official repositories and more in unofficial ones. Some distros have 
less reliable unofficial repositories, others not. For example, I had
bad experiences with Suse and Fedora unofficial repositories.

"Mainstream' distros are, generally, updated more often than 'remix' 
distros. 'Remix' distros often end up in one of three ways:

- complete fork from original distro

- being updated rarely, having outdated kernels and libraries and 
preventing user from installing newer apps

- being abandoned

Some distros have rolling release policy, which is definitely not 
suitable for everyone.

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#38983

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es>
Date2016-09-23 00:02 +0200
Message-ID<f11ebd-2mf.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#38973
On 2016-09-22 16:24, Big Al wrote:

> But I wonder if there are other DE that are similar or distros that are
> similar and might be better.

Have you tried openSUSE?
One feature is that it includes several desktops and all get similar
care at the distro level.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#38984

FromBig Al <Big_Al@invalid.com>
Date2016-09-22 18:46 -0400
Message-ID<ns1mvb$rm5$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#38983
On 09/22/2016 06:02 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2016-09-22 16:24, Big Al wrote:
>
>> But I wonder if there are other DE that are similar or distros that are
>> similar and might be better.
>
> Have you tried openSUSE?
> One feature is that it includes several desktops and all get similar
> care at the distro level.
>
I looked at it once.  Not sure I got a good impression of it.   Of 
course I didn't know this little bit of info.  I guess that will be in 
my VM in a bit too.  No harm looking again.
Thanks.

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#38987

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es>
Date2016-09-23 01:46 +0200
Message-ID<f37ebd-09l.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#38984
On 2016-09-23 00:46, Big Al wrote:
> On 09/22/2016 06:02 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2016-09-22 16:24, Big Al wrote:
>>
>>> But I wonder if there are other DE that are similar or distros that are
>>> similar and might be better.
>>
>> Have you tried openSUSE?
>> One feature is that it includes several desktops and all get similar
>> care at the distro level.
>>
> I looked at it once.  Not sure I got a good impression of it.   Of
> course I didn't know this little bit of info.  I guess that will be in
> my VM in a bit too.  No harm looking again.

It seems you are interested in XFCE. During install you are offered KDE,
Gnome, Other. Choose "other", and then you will see xfce. As for a
release, choose "Leap 42.1". Or if you like betas, 42.2.

If you install on a virtual machine, change the default partition setup.
By default it will use btrfs for "/", and if the space is big enough, a
separate "/home" with XFS. On virtual machines, I think it is better to
avoid btrfs, and go with ext4. For btrfs I would recommend a root
partition of 100 GB to take full advantage of its features (snapshots).

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#38989

Frommick <nospam@junk.mail>
Date2016-09-23 01:41 +0100
Message-ID<mn.b8657e09008ea1f2.90097@junk.mail>
In reply to#38973
On 22/09/2016 15:24:59, Big Al wrote:
> I'm using Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.3 64bit.
>
> I hear people talking about Ubuntu, or MATE or KDE etc and I've tried a few 
> other versions (distros) of linux and have never quite seemed to find one I 
> like.
>
> I'd almost list to have a table of DE and features etc for each distro to 
> pick from.
>
> I'm happy with mint cinnamon.  It has a simple windows like menu, categories 
> breakdown in the menu, no big gaudy icon type side bars for a menu.  I can 
> have panel at top and or bottom.
>
> But I wonder if there are other DE that are similar or distros that are 
> similar and might be better.   I guess I chose mint because it was high on 
> distro watch so I guessed it was best.   Maybe there isn't but I'd take 
> suggestions.   I can load any in my VM and test.
>
> Thanks.

I've been trying lots of distro's over the last few months and there is 
one I keep going back to and that is PCLinuxOS KDE edition.
http://www.pclinuxos.com/get-pclinuxos/
There is a Mate version as well but don't install the Full Monty as it 
is being withdrawn soon.  PCLinux is a rolling update so install it 
once then it just updates instead of having to re-install every few 
months like some other distros. There is also a very friendly forum.

Solydxk was another that I really liked but the software in its 
repository was lagging behind current versions.  The desktop icons were 
especially nice. https://solydxk.com/

Zorin maybe a little too like MS Windows and beginerish for you but 
maybe worth a look. http://zorinos.com/

I didn't particularly like Manjaro, it seemed a little bland.  I also 
had a go at Arch Linux but all that inputting via the keyboard left me 
with sore fingers and a mighty headache.

-- 
mick

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#38999

FromF Volker <here@home.net>
Date2016-09-23 09:38 +0700
Message-ID<ns24jb$1abq$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#38973
On 09/22/2016 09:24 PM, Big Al wrote:
> I'm using Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.3 64bit.

[snip]

> But I wonder if there are other DE that are similar or distros that are
> similar and might be better.   I guess I chose mint because it was high
> on distro watch so I guessed it was best.   Maybe there isn't but I'd
> take suggestions.   I can load any in my VM and test.
>
There is no answer to this. Persons with advanced technical 
knowledge/aptitude may find Mint a 'boring' distro because it's working 
mostly free of trouble.

I fall under the 'technical challenged' category and am very happy with 
Mint 17.3 KDE installed to my desktop computer.

I got carried away installing Mint18 KDE to my laptop computer and am 
unimpressed with its desktop environment; In my view and personal 
experience this particular KDE version is unstable and less configurable 
than the version in 17.3; it was released to soon imho.

I stumbled across Maui Linux and found it much more responsive, stable 
and configurable than Mint18 KDE. It's easily installed to a USB stick 
and after only a few live sessions replaced it wit Mint18 KDE - good 
move as far as I am concerned!
You could try Maui Linux in your VM; Good luck...

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#39001

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-09-22 19:54 -0700
Message-ID<D409E788.7E1B7%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#38999
On 9/22/16, 7:38 PM, in article ns24jb$1abq$1@gioia.aioe.org, "F Volker"
<here@home.net> wrote:

> On 09/22/2016 09:24 PM, Big Al wrote:
>> I'm using Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.3 64bit.
> 
> [snip]
> 
>> But I wonder if there are other DE that are similar or distros that are
>> similar and might be better.   I guess I chose mint because it was high
>> on distro watch so I guessed it was best.   Maybe there isn't but I'd
>> take suggestions.   I can load any in my VM and test.
>> 
> There is no answer to this. Persons with advanced technical
> knowledge/aptitude may find Mint a 'boring' distro because it's working
> mostly free of trouble.
> 
> I fall under the 'technical challenged' category and am very happy with
> Mint 17.3 KDE installed to my desktop computer.

I like Mint... likely my favorite distro... but for ME personally I think
KDE is garbage. Just curious what you find appealing about it.

> I got carried away installing Mint18 KDE to my laptop computer and am
> unimpressed with its desktop environment; In my view and personal
> experience this particular KDE version is unstable and less configurable
> than the version in 17.3; it was released to soon imho.

Oh! I am behind the times and thought it was still in beta... downloading
now. Even if I am not a fan of KDE I like to tinker.

> I stumbled across Maui Linux and found it much more responsive, stable
> and configurable than Mint18 KDE. It's easily installed to a USB stick
> and after only a few live sessions replaced it wit Mint18 KDE - good
> move as far as I am concerned!
> You could try Maui Linux in your VM; Good luck...

These days I tend to run Linux in a VM... keeps me in the loop but a lot of
what I do is sadly not done as well in Linux.



-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#39018

FromF Volker <here@home.net>
Date2016-09-23 14:55 +0700
Message-ID<ns2n59$27p$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#39001
On 09/23/2016 09:54 AM, Snit wrote:
> On 9/22/16, 7:38 PM, in article ns24jb$1abq$1@gioia.aioe.org, "F Volker"
> <here@home.net> wrote:
>
>> On 09/22/2016 09:24 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>> I'm using Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.3 64bit.
>>
>> [snip]

[snip]

> I like Mint... likely my favorite distro... but for ME personally I think
> KDE is garbage. Just curious what you find appealing about it.

I guess it's an individual 'thing' and got used of it; The plasma 
display effect is awesome especially if yo have a good-quality monitor; 
It makes other desktop displays look 'flat'. KDE is highly configurable 
to suit every taste. I tried Cinnamon and others, they don't champion 
KDE by a long shot, imho.

>> I got carried away installing Mint18 KDE to my laptop computer and am
>> unimpressed with its desktop environment; In my view and personal
>> experience this particular KDE version is unstable and less configurable
>> than the version in 17.3; it was released to soon imho.
>
> Oh! I am behind the times and thought it was still in beta... downloading
> now. Even if I am not a fan of KDE I like to tinker.

While you in the tinkering mood you may wish to have a look at Maui 
Linux also... It's a 'winner' afaic.

>> I stumbled across Maui Linux and found it much more responsive, stable
>> and configurable than Mint18 KDE. It's easily installed to a USB stick
>> and after only a few live sessions replaced it wit Mint18 KDE - good
>> move as far as I am concerned!
>> You could try Maui Linux in your VM; Good luck...
>
> These days I tend to run Linux in a VM... keeps me in the loop but a lot of
> what I do is sadly not done as well in Linux.
>

I dual boot with Win7. Nowadays I boot in to Windows once (maybe twice) 
a month to ensure the system and applications are updated.

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#39020

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2016-09-23 11:24 +0200
Message-ID<ns2sc3$rkk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#39018
F Volker wrote:

> On 09/23/2016 09:54 AM, Snit wrote:
>> On 9/22/16, 7:38 PM, in article ns24jb$1abq$1@gioia.aioe.org, "F Volker"
>> <here@home.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/22/2016 09:24 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>> I'm using Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.3 64bit.
>>>
>>> [snip]
> 
> [snip]
> 
>> I like Mint... likely my favorite distro... but for ME personally I think
>> KDE is garbage. Just curious what you find appealing about it.
> 
> I guess it's an individual 'thing' and got used of it; The plasma
> display effect is awesome especially if yo have a good-quality monitor;
> It makes other desktop displays look 'flat'. KDE is highly configurable
> to suit every taste. I tried Cinnamon and others, they don't champion
> KDE by a long shot, imho.

You are talking to the worst liar ever to haunt usenet.
This is Snit Michael Glasser, a lying imbecile. He is a parasite who does 
not work gainfully and instead trolls 24/7. He squanders the little income 
of his wife instead of providing for his family
Michael Glasser posts in excess of 20.000 posts just under his "Snit" 
persona every year for the last 13 years. This does not yet count the 
thousands of posts he makes under dozens of different sock-nyms whose sole 
purpose is to give him support in his inane trolling

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#39036

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-09-23 08:22 -0700
Message-ID<D40A96C5.7E25A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#39020
On 9/23/16, 2:24 AM, in article ns2sc3$rkk$1@dont-email.me, "Peter Köhlmann"
<peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

> F Volker wrote:
> 
>> On 09/23/2016 09:54 AM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 9/22/16, 7:38 PM, in article ns24jb$1abq$1@gioia.aioe.org, "F Volker"
>>> <here@home.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 09/22/2016 09:24 PM, Big Al wrote:
>>>>> I'm using Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.3 64bit.
>>>> 
>>>> [snip]
>> 
>> [snip]
>> 
>>> I like Mint... likely my favorite distro... but for ME personally I think
>>> KDE is garbage. Just curious what you find appealing about it.
>> 
>> I guess it's an individual 'thing' and got used of it; The plasma
>> display effect is awesome especially if yo have a good-quality monitor;
>> It makes other desktop displays look 'flat'. KDE is highly configurable
>> to suit every taste. I tried Cinnamon and others, they don't champion
>> KDE by a long shot, imho.
> 
> You are talking to the worst liar ever to haunt usenet.
> This is Snit Michael Glasser, a lying imbecile. He is a parasite who does
> not work gainfully and instead trolls 24/7. He squanders the little income
> of his wife instead of providing for his family
> Michael Glasser posts in excess of 20.000 posts just under his "Snit"
> persona every year for the last 13 years. This does not yet count the
> thousands of posts he makes under dozens of different sock-nyms whose sole
> purpose is to give him support in his inane trolling
> 

Seriously, why are you even babbling about me?


-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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