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Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.freeware, alt.computer.security, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software
Date 2015-12-28 19:00 -0700
Message-ID <D2A7375F.680D8%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
References (13 earlier) <n5s359$kjj$1@dont-email.me> <n5s685$1n7$1@dont-email.me> <n5s9pi$f1h$1@dont-email.me> <D2A71A01.680B0%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <n5so2e$10h$4@dont-email.me>

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On 12/28/15, 6:38 PM, in article n5so2e$10h$4@dont-email.me, "Snerdly"
<noneofyourbusiness@anyway.com> wrote:

> On 12/28/2015 4:55 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 12/28/15, 2:35 PM, in article n5s9pi$f1h$1@dont-email.me, "Caver1"
>> <caver1@inthemud.org> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> How would a desk clerk know about programming?
>>>>>> They aren't trained to do the job, nor are they competent to do the
>>>>>> task.  What part of this do you not understand?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> How does that desk clerk operate with any other OS?
>>>>> 
>>>> The way they were shown how to use it, not to make changes to the
>>>> programs that they are using as what Peter is alluding to.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> In Linux he can make changes if he wants or just run it as is.
>> 
>> Given how the developers of many open source programs cannot get the program
>> to work well, it is unlikely the end users will be able to.
>> 
> Yes.  That is my point as well.  In the office setting, where the desk
> clerk is hired to do a job, isn't expected to use the source code of
> some application to reprogram the app and then debug it.  Just isn't in
> the cards for that desk clerk.  This is what Peter as alluded to, which
> is just absurd.

Does not even make sense to assume any but the largest of companies are
going to take on a project and, say, make LibreOffice work with images as
well as the competition. If the current developers have been unable to what
makes him think some small group in some company will be able to?

* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

From the comments in the bug reports I have submitted to get it to compete
well in that area would take a LOT of re-working of the back end code.



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      Re: Juniper faces many questions after spying code planted in software Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2015-12-21 20:19 -0200
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