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  Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-08 14:58 +0200
    Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Jack <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-08 14:30 +0100
      Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-08 12:31 -0400
        Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-08 18:56 +0200
    Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-08 19:19 +0100
      Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-08 20:39 +0200
        Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive MikeS <mikes@is.invalid> - 2025-04-08 20:37 +0100
          Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-09 09:23 +0200
            Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 04:14 -0700
              Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive MikeS <mikes@is.invalid> - 2025-04-09 15:31 +0100
                Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 11:16 -0700
    Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-08 17:23 -0400
      Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Jack <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-08 21:57 +0000
        Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-08 20:36 -0400
    Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-08 18:00 -0400
    Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-09 01:35 -0500
      Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-09 09:25 +0200
    Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-04-09 15:01 +0100
    Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Fokke Nauta <usenet@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-10 15:14 +0200
      Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-10 14:48 -0500
        Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-11 13:28 +0200
          Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-11 08:04 -0400
            Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-11 21:17 +0200
              Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-12 19:52 +1000
                Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-13 19:29 +0200

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#18329 — Documents are by default stored in OneDrive

Hi all,

An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used to be 
Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated.
The problem now is that when a document is created and saved, it is 
saved to OneDrive by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. I looked 
at the settings, and it said that files are saved to the SSD of the 
laptop by default. This is not the case.
I want the files to be saved to the SSD by default. But how do I do that?

Many thanks in advance for your help.
With best regards,
Fokke Nauta

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#18330

On 08/04/2025 13:58, Fokke Nauta wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used to be 
> Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated.
> The problem now is that when a document is created and saved, it is 
> saved to OneDrive by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. I looked 
> at the settings, and it said that files are saved to the SSD of the 
> laptop by default. This is not the case.
> I want the files to be saved to the SSD by default. But how do I do that?
> 
> Many thanks in advance for your help.
> With best regards,
> Fokke Nauta

It depends on which App you are talking about but in Microsoft Office 
you can go to options and make sure the documents are saved in a 
different location. Microsoft has made it very difficult for people by 
changing the rules.

<https://i.imgur.com/wgyRIOw.png>

You also need to disable Microsoft Backup as shown in this image:

<https://i.imgur.com/PbgM84G.png>

Hope this helps.

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#18331

On 4/8/2025 9:30 AM, Jack wrote:
> On 08/04/2025 13:58, Fokke Nauta wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used to be
>> Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated.
>> The problem now is that when a document is created and saved, it is
>> saved to OneDrive by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. I looked
>> at the settings, and it said that files are saved to the SSD of the
>> laptop by default. This is not the case.
>> I want the files to be saved to the SSD by default. But how do I do that?
>>
>> Many thanks in advance for your help.
>> With best regards,
>> Fokke Nauta
> 
> It depends on which App you are talking about but in Microsoft Office
> you can go to options and make sure the documents are saved in a
> different location. Microsoft has made it very difficult for people by
> changing the rules.
> 
> <https://i.imgur.com/wgyRIOw.png>
> 
> You also need to disable Microsoft Backup as shown in this image:
> 
> <https://i.imgur.com/PbgM84G.png>
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 

I use File history in Windows 10 to back up my files, but knowing the 
future I was interesting in how to back up to a external drive in Window 
11.  This is what I found

"Method 1: File History

This method is suitable for backing up your files, libraries, and 
settings. It doesn't create a full system image, but it's a good option 
for regular file backups.

1. Connect your external hard drive.
2. Open Settings: Press Windows key + I.
3. Go to System > Storage > Advanced storage settings > Backup options.
4. Click "Add a drive" under "Back up with File History" and select your 
external drive.
5. Turn on "Automatically back up my files." "

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#18332

On 08/04/2025 18:31, knuttle wrote:
> On 4/8/2025 9:30 AM, Jack wrote:
>> On 08/04/2025 13:58, Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used to be
>>> Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated.
>>> The problem now is that when a document is created and saved, it is
>>> saved to OneDrive by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. I looked
>>> at the settings, and it said that files are saved to the SSD of the
>>> laptop by default. This is not the case.
>>> I want the files to be saved to the SSD by default. But how do I do 
>>> that?
>>>
>>> Many thanks in advance for your help.
>>> With best regards,
>>> Fokke Nauta
>>
>> It depends on which App you are talking about but in Microsoft Office
>> you can go to options and make sure the documents are saved in a
>> different location. Microsoft has made it very difficult for people by
>> changing the rules.
>>
>> <https://i.imgur.com/wgyRIOw.png>
>>
>> You also need to disable Microsoft Backup as shown in this image:
>>
>> <https://i.imgur.com/PbgM84G.png>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
> 
> I use File history in Windows 10 to back up my files, but knowing the 
> future I was interesting in how to back up to a external drive in Window 
> 11.  This is what I found
> 
> "Method 1: File History
> 
> This method is suitable for backing up your files, libraries, and 
> settings. It doesn't create a full system image, but it's a good option 
> for regular file backups.
> 
> 1. Connect your external hard drive.
> 2. Open Settings: Press Windows key + I.
> 3. Go to System > Storage > Advanced storage settings > Backup options.
> 4. Click "Add a drive" under "Back up with File History" and select your 
> external drive.
> 5. Turn on "Automatically back up my files." "

It wasn't about a backup of the files. It was about storing the files on 
the local SSD.

Fokke

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#18333

Fokke Nauta wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used to be 
> Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated.
> The problem now is that when a document is created and saved, it is 
> saved to OneDrive by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. I looked 
> at the settings, and it said that files are saved to the SSD of the 
> laptop by default. This is not the case.
> I want the files to be saved to the SSD by default. But how do I do that?
> 
> Many thanks in advance for your help.
> With best regards,
> Fokke Nauta

OneDrive needs a settings change. It's hovering and doing what it's been 
told to do.
Either change the setting or remove OneDrive.


1. Unlink OneDrive from your PC:

     Open OneDrive settings: Click the OneDrive cloud icon in the system 
tray, then click the "Help and Settings" icon, and select "Settings".
     Go to the Account tab: Click on the "Account" tab.
     Unlink this PC: Click on "Unlink this PC" and follow the prompts.

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#18334

On 08/04/2025 20:19, Ed Cryer wrote:
> Fokke Nauta wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used to 
>> be Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated.
>> The problem now is that when a document is created and saved, it is 
>> saved to OneDrive by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. I 
>> looked at the settings, and it said that files are saved to the SSD of 
>> the laptop by default. This is not the case.
>> I want the files to be saved to the SSD by default. But how do I do that?
>>
>> Many thanks in advance for your help.
>> With best regards,
>> Fokke Nauta
> 
> OneDrive needs a settings change. It's hovering and doing what it's been 
> told to do.
> Either change the setting or remove OneDrive.
> 
> 
> 1. Unlink OneDrive from your PC:
> 
>      Open OneDrive settings: Click the OneDrive cloud icon in the system 
> tray, then click the "Help and Settings" icon, and select "Settings".
>      Go to the Account tab: Click on the "Account" tab.
>      Unlink this PC: Click on "Unlink this PC" and follow the prompts.
> 
It's not an option to remove OneDrive. It's used as a backup. But we 
want to store the files on the laptop.

Fokke

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#18336

On 08/04/2025 19:39, Fokke Nauta wrote:
> On 08/04/2025 20:19, Ed Cryer wrote:
>> Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used to 
>>> be Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated.
>>> The problem now is that when a document is created and saved, it is 
>>> saved to OneDrive by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. I 
>>> looked at the settings, and it said that files are saved to the SSD 
>>> of the laptop by default. This is not the case.
>>> I want the files to be saved to the SSD by default. But how do I do 
>>> that?
>>>
>>> Many thanks in advance for your help.
>>> With best regards,
>>> Fokke Nauta
>>
>> OneDrive needs a settings change. It's hovering and doing what it's 
>> been told to do.
>> Either change the setting or remove OneDrive.
>>
>>
>> 1. Unlink OneDrive from your PC:
>>
>>      Open OneDrive settings: Click the OneDrive cloud icon in the 
>> system tray, then click the "Help and Settings" icon, and select 
>> "Settings".
>>      Go to the Account tab: Click on the "Account" tab.
>>      Unlink this PC: Click on "Unlink this PC" and follow the prompts.
>>
> It's not an option to remove OneDrive. It's used as a backup. But we 
> want to store the files on the laptop.
> 
> Fokke

If you implement the auto backup feature the true locations of folders 
such as Documents are moved into the OneDrive folder without telling 
you. Hence the problem.

The way round this is to create a folder of your choice somewhere else 
on the SSD and tell each program to save files there. However, they will 
not then be automatically backed up to OneDrive.

I avoid all such problems on my Win 10 or 11 PCs by simply not using 
OneDrive and its app. No need to uninstall anything.

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#18361

On 08/04/2025 21:37, MikeS wrote:
> On 08/04/2025 19:39, Fokke Nauta wrote:
>> On 08/04/2025 20:19, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>> Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used 
>>>> to be Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated.
>>>> The problem now is that when a document is created and saved, it is 
>>>> saved to OneDrive by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. I 
>>>> looked at the settings, and it said that files are saved to the SSD 
>>>> of the laptop by default. This is not the case.
>>>> I want the files to be saved to the SSD by default. But how do I do 
>>>> that?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks in advance for your help.
>>>> With best regards,
>>>> Fokke Nauta
>>>
>>> OneDrive needs a settings change. It's hovering and doing what it's 
>>> been told to do.
>>> Either change the setting or remove OneDrive.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. Unlink OneDrive from your PC:
>>>
>>>      Open OneDrive settings: Click the OneDrive cloud icon in the 
>>> system tray, then click the "Help and Settings" icon, and select 
>>> "Settings".
>>>      Go to the Account tab: Click on the "Account" tab.
>>>      Unlink this PC: Click on "Unlink this PC" and follow the prompts.
>>>
>> It's not an option to remove OneDrive. It's used as a backup. But we 
>> want to store the files on the laptop.
>>
>> Fokke
> 
> If you implement the auto backup feature the true locations of folders 
> such as Documents are moved into the OneDrive folder without telling 
> you. Hence the problem.
> 
> The way round this is to create a folder of your choice somewhere else 
> on the SSD and tell each program to save files there. However, they will 
> not then be automatically backed up to OneDrive.
> 
> I avoid all such problems on my Win 10 or 11 PCs by simply not using 
> OneDrive and its app. No need to uninstall anything.


Thanks. This will solve it.
I don't use OneDrive either, but my client wants it.

Fokke

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#18364

Fokke Nauta wrote on 4/9/2025 12:23 AM:
> On 08/04/2025 21:37, MikeS wrote:
>> On 08/04/2025 19:39, Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>> On 08/04/2025 20:19, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>> Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used 
>>>>> to be Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated.
>>>>> The problem now is that when a document is created and saved, it is 
>>>>> saved to OneDrive by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. I 
>>>>> looked at the settings, and it said that files are saved to the SSD 
>>>>> of the laptop by default. This is not the case.
>>>>> I want the files to be saved to the SSD by default. But how do I do 
>>>>> that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks in advance for your help.
>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>> Fokke Nauta
>>>>
>>>> OneDrive needs a settings change. It's hovering and doing what it's 
>>>> been told to do.
>>>> Either change the setting or remove OneDrive.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. Unlink OneDrive from your PC:
>>>>
>>>>      Open OneDrive settings: Click the OneDrive cloud icon in the 
>>>> system tray, then click the "Help and Settings" icon, and select 
>>>> "Settings".
>>>>      Go to the Account tab: Click on the "Account" tab.
>>>>      Unlink this PC: Click on "Unlink this PC" and follow the prompts.
>>>>
>>> It's not an option to remove OneDrive. It's used as a backup. But we 
>>> want to store the files on the laptop.
>>>
>>> Fokke
>>
>> If you implement the auto backup feature the true locations of folders 
>> such as Documents are moved into the OneDrive folder without telling 
>> you. Hence the problem.
>>
>> The way round this is to create a folder of your choice somewhere else 
>> on the SSD and tell each program to save files there. However, they 
>> will not then be automatically backed up to OneDrive.
>>
>> I avoid all such problems on my Win 10 or 11 PCs by simply not using 
>> OneDrive and its app. No need to uninstall anything.
> 
> 
> Thanks. This will solve it.
> I don't use OneDrive either, but my client wants it.
> 
> Fokke

The correct way to achieve your client intent.
1. Logon to OneDrive in Windows 11, rt click icon on task bar and select 
Settings.
  (Look on the left hand side navigation pane options - Sync and Backup, 
Account, Notifications, About)
  => Sync and Backup>Manage Backup> Toggle off all folders
  This setting is for files that automatically upload to OneDrive when 
OneDrive is logged on
  => Sync and Backup>Toggle off the other 4 items(Photos-Videos, Screen 
Shots, Pause sync battery saver mode, Pause synce metered)

  => Account>Choose folders that Windows and OneDrive app will pull down 
to the device.  Choose whatever is desired - one, more or none.
  This setting is for files that are downloaded to the local OneDrive 
folder on the pc(i.e. synced from the web to the device, and only in that 
direction)

  => Notifications> Choose one, more, or none


2. In Windows 11, Settings>Apps/Startup/OneDrive - toggle off

3. While OneDrive is logged on, rt click icon, choose Settings, then Quit 
OneDrive

4. If Office is in use, configure its own settings to save files locally
  e.g. Excel/File(on ribbon menu)/Options/Save => Save to Computer by 
default, change or accept the default location.

Follow the steps in the exact sequence provided above(1 through 4)

Whenever the customer 'wants' OneDrive, it can be opened via the Windows 
11 OneDrive app and configure/reconfigure to the customer's preference.
  - i.e. as support, both you and the customer should review and 
understand the customer's purpose and intent for wanting and using OneDrive.

Good Luck.


-- 
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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#18372

On 09/04/2025 12:14, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
> Fokke Nauta wrote on 4/9/2025 12:23 AM:
>> On 08/04/2025 21:37, MikeS wrote:
>>> On 08/04/2025 19:39, Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>>> On 08/04/2025 20:19, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>>> Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used 
>>>>>> to be Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated.
>>>>>> The problem now is that when a document is created and saved, it 
>>>>>> is saved to OneDrive by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. 
>>>>>> I looked at the settings, and it said that files are saved to the 
>>>>>> SSD of the laptop by default. This is not the case.
>>>>>> I want the files to be saved to the SSD by default. But how do I 
>>>>>> do that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks in advance for your help.
>>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>> Fokke Nauta
>>>>>
>>>>> OneDrive needs a settings change. It's hovering and doing what it's 
>>>>> been told to do.
>>>>> Either change the setting or remove OneDrive.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Unlink OneDrive from your PC:
>>>>>
>>>>>      Open OneDrive settings: Click the OneDrive cloud icon in the 
>>>>> system tray, then click the "Help and Settings" icon, and select 
>>>>> "Settings".
>>>>>      Go to the Account tab: Click on the "Account" tab.
>>>>>      Unlink this PC: Click on "Unlink this PC" and follow the prompts.
>>>>>
>>>> It's not an option to remove OneDrive. It's used as a backup. But we 
>>>> want to store the files on the laptop.
>>>>
>>>> Fokke
>>>
>>> If you implement the auto backup feature the true locations of 
>>> folders such as Documents are moved into the OneDrive folder without 
>>> telling you. Hence the problem.
>>>
>>> The way round this is to create a folder of your choice somewhere 
>>> else on the SSD and tell each program to save files there. However, 
>>> they will not then be automatically backed up to OneDrive.
>>>
>>> I avoid all such problems on my Win 10 or 11 PCs by simply not using 
>>> OneDrive and its app. No need to uninstall anything.
>>
>>
>> Thanks. This will solve it.
>> I don't use OneDrive either, but my client wants it.
>>
>> Fokke
> 
> The correct way to achieve your client intent.
> 1. Logon to OneDrive in Windows 11, rt click icon on task bar and select 
> Settings.
>   (Look on the left hand side navigation pane options - Sync and Backup, 
> Account, Notifications, About)
>   => Sync and Backup>Manage Backup> Toggle off all folders
>   This setting is for files that automatically upload to OneDrive when 
> OneDrive is logged on
>   => Sync and Backup>Toggle off the other 4 items(Photos-Videos, Screen 
> Shots, Pause sync battery saver mode, Pause synce metered)
> 
>   => Account>Choose folders that Windows and OneDrive app will pull down 
> to the device.  Choose whatever is desired - one, more or none.
>   This setting is for files that are downloaded to the local OneDrive 
> folder on the pc(i.e. synced from the web to the device, and only in 
> that direction)
> 
>   => Notifications> Choose one, more, or none
> 
> 
> 2. In Windows 11, Settings>Apps/Startup/OneDrive - toggle off
> 
> 3. While OneDrive is logged on, rt click icon, choose Settings, then 
> Quit OneDrive
> 
> 4. If Office is in use, configure its own settings to save files locally
>   e.g. Excel/File(on ribbon menu)/Options/Save => Save to Computer by 
> default, change or accept the default location.
> 
> Follow the steps in the exact sequence provided above(1 through 4)
> 
> Whenever the customer 'wants' OneDrive, it can be opened via the Windows 
> 11 OneDrive app and configure/reconfigure to the customer's preference.
>   - i.e. as support, both you and the customer should review and 
> understand the customer's purpose and intent for wanting and using 
> OneDrive.
> 
> Good Luck.
> 
Thank you for a perfect demo of why OneDrive is best ignored unless you 
are content to leave everything in Microsoft's hands by accepting all 
defaults and moving your storage to its cloud.

Forums have years of posts by users who belatedly rebelled and 'lost' 
their work thanks to the unintelligible OneDrive settings and instructions.

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#18375

MikeS wrote on 4/9/2025 7:31 AM:
> On 09/04/2025 12:14, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
>> Fokke Nauta wrote on 4/9/2025 12:23 AM:
>>> On 08/04/2025 21:37, MikeS wrote:
>>>> On 08/04/2025 19:39, Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>>>> On 08/04/2025 20:19, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>>>> Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used 
>>>>>>> to be Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated.
>>>>>>> The problem now is that when a document is created and saved, it 
>>>>>>> is saved to OneDrive by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. 
>>>>>>> I looked at the settings, and it said that files are saved to the 
>>>>>>> SSD of the laptop by default. This is not the case.
>>>>>>> I want the files to be saved to the SSD by default. But how do I 
>>>>>>> do that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many thanks in advance for your help.
>>>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>>> Fokke Nauta
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OneDrive needs a settings change. It's hovering and doing what it's 
>>>>>> been told to do.
>>>>>> Either change the setting or remove OneDrive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Unlink OneDrive from your PC:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Open OneDrive settings: Click the OneDrive cloud icon in the 
>>>>>> system tray, then click the "Help and Settings" icon, and select 
>>>>>> "Settings".
>>>>>>      Go to the Account tab: Click on the "Account" tab.
>>>>>>      Unlink this PC: Click on "Unlink this PC" and follow the prompts.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It's not an option to remove OneDrive. It's used as a backup. But we 
>>>>> want to store the files on the laptop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fokke
>>>>
>>>> If you implement the auto backup feature the true locations of 
>>>> folders such as Documents are moved into the OneDrive folder without 
>>>> telling you. Hence the problem.
>>>>
>>>> The way round this is to create a folder of your choice somewhere 
>>>> else on the SSD and tell each program to save files there. However, 
>>>> they will not then be automatically backed up to OneDrive.
>>>>
>>>> I avoid all such problems on my Win 10 or 11 PCs by simply not using 
>>>> OneDrive and its app. No need to uninstall anything.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks. This will solve it.
>>> I don't use OneDrive either, but my client wants it.
>>>
>>> Fokke
>>
>> The correct way to achieve your client intent.
>> 1. Logon to OneDrive in Windows 11, rt click icon on task bar and 
>> select Settings.
>>   (Look on the left hand side navigation pane options - Sync and 
>> Backup, Account, Notifications, About)
>>   => Sync and Backup>Manage Backup> Toggle off all folders
>>   This setting is for files that automatically upload to OneDrive when 
>> OneDrive is logged on
>>   => Sync and Backup>Toggle off the other 4 items(Photos-Videos, Screen 
>> Shots, Pause sync battery saver mode, Pause synce metered)
>>
>>   => Account>Choose folders that Windows and OneDrive app will pull 
>> down to the device.  Choose whatever is desired - one, more or none.
>>   This setting is for files that are downloaded to the local OneDrive 
>> folder on the pc(i.e. synced from the web to the device, and only in 
>> that direction)
>>
>>   => Notifications> Choose one, more, or none
>>
>>
>> 2. In Windows 11, Settings>Apps/Startup/OneDrive - toggle off
>>
>> 3. While OneDrive is logged on, rt click icon, choose Settings, then 
>> Quit OneDrive
>>
>> 4. If Office is in use, configure its own settings to save files locally
>>   e.g. Excel/File(on ribbon menu)/Options/Save => Save to Computer by 
>> default, change or accept the default location.
>>
>> Follow the steps in the exact sequence provided above(1 through 4)
>>
>> Whenever the customer 'wants' OneDrive, it can be opened via the 
>> Windows 11 OneDrive app and configure/reconfigure to the customer's 
>> preference.
>>   - i.e. as support, both you and the customer should review and 
>> understand the customer's purpose and intent for wanting and using 
>> OneDrive.
>>
>> Good Luck.
>>
> Thank you for a perfect demo of why OneDrive is best ignored unless you 
> are content to leave everything in Microsoft's hands by accepting all 
> defaults and moving your storage to its cloud.
> 
> Forums have years of posts by users who belatedly rebelled and 'lost' 
> their work thanks to the unintelligible OneDrive settings and instructions.
> 

Not a reason to ignore it.  The correct method on how to control and use 
it for one's own need.  OneDrive never(now or in the past) puts 
'everything' in the MSFT account's OneDrive web UI.

Just like Windows, it's incumbent upon everyone to learn or configure or 
not use Windows.
  - Forum posts on OneDrive should be scrutinized. with extra effort, 
especially the date written - anything older than a year or two, for the 
most part should be considered as outdated and possibly no longer 
applicable or incorrect.
   - the only way to understand OneDrive is to open the app and 
understand the four main settings(Sync, Account, Notification, About)options.

For those using OneDrive that also have spare storage(SSD, HD, SDXC 
memory card) on devices where storage space is concern - after 
configuring OneDrive's Settings options, navigate back to 
Settings/Accounts, choose the option to 'Unlink this pc', once done, 
reopen the OneDrive app and change the default folder/file storage 
location(from its default C: drive) to user pre-created folder on the 
spare storage destination.

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#18343

On 4/8/2025 8:58 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used to be 
> Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated.
> The problem now is that when a document is created and saved, it is 
> saved to OneDrive by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. I looked 
> at the settings, and it said that files are saved to the SSD of the 
> laptop by default. This is not the case.
> I want the files to be saved to the SSD by default. But how do I do that?
> 

   In MS Office you're talking about?
   I may be mistaken, but I thought I read that the
free MSO 365 was not going to allow saving files
locally, making it a fully online service. (Well, except
for the fact that it's installed locally!)

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#18345

On 08/04/2025 22:23, Newyana2 wrote:
> In MS Office you're talking about?
>    I may be mistaken, but I thought I read that the
> free MSO 365 was not going to allow saving files
> locally, making it a fully online service. (Well, except
> for the fact that it's installed locally!)

Where did you read this crap? Please provide a link for that so that 
they can be forced to make a correction before spreading fake 
information. This will all be done by Microsoft lawyers but some 
evidence is required before any action can be taken. Have you taken the 
trouble to try it out yourself before amplifying the fake story 
yourself. You should lean not to trust everything you read from 
click-bait web sites.

All online documents can be downloaded and saved on your machine. You 
can also delete the copy from anywhere saved on Microsoft servers. There 
are no restrictions.

Microsoft is celebrating 50th anniversary since incorporation and 
anybody who is 50 years old should be able to do a reasonably good job.

<https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2025/04/04/celebrating-microsofts-50-years/>

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#18352

On 4/8/2025 5:57 PM, Jack wrote:
> On 08/04/2025 22:23, Newyana2 wrote:
>> In MS Office you're talking about?
>>     I may be mistaken, but I thought I read that the
>> free MSO 365 was not going to allow saving files
>> locally, making it a fully online service. (Well, except
>> for the fact that it's installed locally!)
> 
> Where did you read this crap? Please provide a link for that so that
> they can be forced to make a correction before spreading fake
> information. This will all be done by Microsoft lawyers but some
> evidence is required before any action can be taken. Have you taken the
> trouble to try it out yourself before amplifying the fake story
> yourself. You should lean not to trust everything you read from
> click-bait web sites.
> 

Actually it was more a question. I said I wasn't sure. But since
the only response I got was rabid hysteria from an MS shill,
I decided to check it out.

   This may be what I was thinking of:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/can-i-save-my-word-or-excel-document-to-my/edeb7eec-8448-4e1d-9383-6347e1db64a0

  "Here is the challenge with the Office 365 free web, it works with 
onedrive only. So if you want to work on the file, the file has to be in 
the onedrive folder on your device and in the cloud. If you move the 
file out of the synced onedrive folder on your device, it will be 
deleted in the cloud."

    So apparently the files are only saved in the OneDrive
folder locally, and online, and if they're moved from the
folder they'll be deleted online. Not an intuitive approach,
to be charitable.

   When Adobe went rental, the default save was online in
their special format. People in the photo newsgroup were
saying that if someone cancelled their subscription without
knowing enough to save their work out separately in common
formats would lose their work.

   This sounds similar. People can apparently copy out from
OneDrive if they know to do that, but the files are
not entirely under their control, as MS are trying to present
their online office as being truly online. One more step toward
kiosk rental Windows.

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#18346

On Tue, 4/8/2025 8:58 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used to be Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated.
> The problem now is that when a document is created and saved, it is saved to OneDrive by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. I looked at the settings, and it said that files are saved to the SSD of the laptop by default. This is not the case.
> I want the files to be saved to the SSD by default. But how do I do that?
> 
> Many thanks in advance for your help.
> With best regards,
> Fokke Nauta

When the help files are this bad, you know the OneDrive implementation
was a mistake in the first place.

# Basic "Unlink" and "Uninstall" instructions. Does not mention User Shell Folders detail.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/turn-off-disable-or-uninstall-onedrive-f32a17ce-3336-40fe-9c38-6efb09f944b0

# Perhaps your acquaintance has this messy dialog. It's referred to as an "experience", "like a hay ride".

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/customize-the-save-experience-in-office-786200a7-f5f2-4d26-a3ae-b78c60dd5d3b

*******

If you weren't using Backup or did not want Backup, this might have most of the answers.

https://www.geeksinphoenix.com/blog/post/2024/04/01/what-you-can-do-if-you-do-not-want-to-use-onedrive

   HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders

A folder will be created with those definitions, if it does not currently exist.

   [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/rp9y5Gxc/User-Shell-Folders-Versus-One-Drive.gif

But those can also be changed by using Properties on the canonical folder and change
where it points. There is a button to "Reset Default" for a folder.

So the problem is, one level of change, is to "do something to Onedrive",
but the other level is what the User Shell Folders are set to. The User Shell Folders
are consulted by a program, so the program knows where to go. And once OneDrive
has messed that up, if you uninstall OneDrive, the messed up "suggestions"
in HKCU also need to be corrected. Otherwise you get the complaint I've seen, where
OneDrive directories keep getting created. That makes the difference between
the normal Documents location and the Onedrive\Documents new location.

I think when I removed OneDrive application, I had to use some of this material.
Just a suspicion. I expect the OneDrive folder would keep getting created if
the User Shell Folders were not flushed clean.

         cd %userprofile%                       [ I might have been here at the time... OneDrive folder below this.]
Problem: fsutil reparsepoint query OneDrive     # This showed the data, and
         fsutil reparsepoint delete OneDrive    # this doesn't work, mentions "cloud file".
         rd /s OneDrive                         # This command worked. Tested as Admin. But I could do this
                                                # because I wasn't enrolled in OneDrive and the
                                                # structure was still clean (no Backups)

*******

Another thing we can look at, is OneDrive cache policy. OneDrive removes infrequently used
items and keeps the only copy in the Cloud.

This bullshit shows how much effort would be required to "dehydrate"
the user profile folders. It implies that if this material is
not set up, then the OneDrive sync does not remove the file
on the SSD. Maybe the file is put in OneDrive\Documents but stays there,
unless Storage Sense is engaged by low-disk-storage threshold (10% left).

https://4sysops.com/archives/manage-onedrive-caches-with-windows-storage-sense/

   Paul

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#18359

Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

> An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used to
> be Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated. The problem now
> is that when a document is created and saved, it is saved to OneDrive
> by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. I looked at the
> settings, and it said that files are saved to the SSD of the laptop
> by default. This is not the case. I want the files to be saved to the
> SSD by default. But how do I do that?

In the OneDrive client on your computer, there is no "Files on demand"
option you can disable?

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/save-disk-space-with-onedrive-files-on-demand-for-windows-0e6860d3-d9f3-4971-b321-7092438fb38e

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#18362

On 09/04/2025 08:35, VanguardLH wrote:
> Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
> 
>> An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used to
>> be Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated. The problem now
>> is that when a document is created and saved, it is saved to OneDrive
>> by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. I looked at the
>> settings, and it said that files are saved to the SSD of the laptop
>> by default. This is not the case. I want the files to be saved to the
>> SSD by default. But how do I do that?
> 
> In the OneDrive client on your computer, there is no "Files on demand"
> option you can disable?
> 
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/save-disk-space-with-onedrive-files-on-demand-for-windows-0e6860d3-d9f3-4971-b321-7092438fb38e

Don't know. I'll check it out.

Fokke

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#18371

In article <m5kkrcFfi1qU1@mid.individual.net>, fnauta@solfon.nl says...
>
>Hi all,
>
>An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used to be 
>Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated.
>The problem now is that when a document is created and saved, it is 
>saved to OneDrive by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. I looked 
>at the settings, and it said that files are saved to the SSD of the 
>laptop by default. This is not the case.
>I want the files to be saved to the SSD by default. But how do I do that?
>
>Many thanks in advance for your help.
>With best regards,
>Fokke Nauta

If you visit your synched OneDrive folder(s) in Explorer, there is an 
option under the right-click menu "Always keep on this device".

-- 
--
Phil, London

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#18401

Op 8-4-2025 om 14:58 schreef Fokke Nauta:
> Hi all,
> 
> An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used to be 
> Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated.
> The problem now is that when a document is created and saved, it is 
> saved to OneDrive by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. I looked 
> at the settings, and it said that files are saved to the SSD of the 
> laptop by default. This is not the case.
> I want the files to be saved to the SSD by default. But how do I do that?
> 
> Many thanks in advance for your help.
> With best regards,
> Fokke Nauta

Thanks all for your help. With your suggestions I was able to solve this 
problem.

Fokke Nauta

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#18404

Fokke Nauta <usenet@solfon.nl> wrote:

> Fokke Nauta:
>
>> An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used to
>> be Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated. The problem now
>> is that when a document is created and saved, it is saved to
>> OneDrive by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. I looked at
>> the settings, and it said that files are saved to the SSD of the
>> laptop by default. This is not the case. I want the files to be
>> saved to the SSD by default. But how do I do that?
> 
> Thanks all for your help. With your suggestions I was able to solve this 
> problem.

What worked.  We are a curious bunch, and like to learn, too.

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