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Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive

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On Tue, 4/8/2025 8:58 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> An acquaintance of mine has a laptop with Windows 11 Home. It used to be Windows 10 Home but the laptop has been updated.
> The problem now is that when a document is created and saved, it is saved to OneDrive by default, and not to the SSD of the laptop. I looked at the settings, and it said that files are saved to the SSD of the laptop by default. This is not the case.
> I want the files to be saved to the SSD by default. But how do I do that?
> 
> Many thanks in advance for your help.
> With best regards,
> Fokke Nauta

When the help files are this bad, you know the OneDrive implementation
was a mistake in the first place.

# Basic "Unlink" and "Uninstall" instructions. Does not mention User Shell Folders detail.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/turn-off-disable-or-uninstall-onedrive-f32a17ce-3336-40fe-9c38-6efb09f944b0

# Perhaps your acquaintance has this messy dialog. It's referred to as an "experience", "like a hay ride".

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/customize-the-save-experience-in-office-786200a7-f5f2-4d26-a3ae-b78c60dd5d3b

*******

If you weren't using Backup or did not want Backup, this might have most of the answers.

https://www.geeksinphoenix.com/blog/post/2024/04/01/what-you-can-do-if-you-do-not-want-to-use-onedrive

   HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders

A folder will be created with those definitions, if it does not currently exist.

   [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/rp9y5Gxc/User-Shell-Folders-Versus-One-Drive.gif

But those can also be changed by using Properties on the canonical folder and change
where it points. There is a button to "Reset Default" for a folder.

So the problem is, one level of change, is to "do something to Onedrive",
but the other level is what the User Shell Folders are set to. The User Shell Folders
are consulted by a program, so the program knows where to go. And once OneDrive
has messed that up, if you uninstall OneDrive, the messed up "suggestions"
in HKCU also need to be corrected. Otherwise you get the complaint I've seen, where
OneDrive directories keep getting created. That makes the difference between
the normal Documents location and the Onedrive\Documents new location.

I think when I removed OneDrive application, I had to use some of this material.
Just a suspicion. I expect the OneDrive folder would keep getting created if
the User Shell Folders were not flushed clean.

         cd %userprofile%                       [ I might have been here at the time... OneDrive folder below this.]
Problem: fsutil reparsepoint query OneDrive     # This showed the data, and
         fsutil reparsepoint delete OneDrive    # this doesn't work, mentions "cloud file".
         rd /s OneDrive                         # This command worked. Tested as Admin. But I could do this
                                                # because I wasn't enrolled in OneDrive and the
                                                # structure was still clean (no Backups)

*******

Another thing we can look at, is OneDrive cache policy. OneDrive removes infrequently used
items and keeps the only copy in the Cloud.

This bullshit shows how much effort would be required to "dehydrate"
the user profile folders. It implies that if this material is
not set up, then the OneDrive sync does not remove the file
on the SSD. Maybe the file is put in OneDrive\Documents but stays there,
unless Storage Sense is engaged by low-disk-storage threshold (10% left).

https://4sysops.com/archives/manage-onedrive-caches-with-windows-storage-sense/

   Paul

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Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-08 14:58 +0200
  Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Jack <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-08 14:30 +0100
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  Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-08 19:19 +0100
    Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-08 20:39 +0200
      Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive MikeS <mikes@is.invalid> - 2025-04-08 20:37 +0100
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  Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-09 01:35 -0500
    Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-09 09:25 +0200
  Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-04-09 15:01 +0100
  Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Fokke Nauta <usenet@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-10 15:14 +0200
    Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-10 14:48 -0500
      Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-11 13:28 +0200
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          Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-11 21:17 +0200
            Re: Documents are by default stored in OneDrive Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-12 19:52 +1000
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