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Re: Start 'Menu' Problems

From Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Start 'Menu' Problems
Date 2025-02-10 20:21 +0000
Organization NOYB
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Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
[...]

> I did all that for the original W7 Start Menu that works, but neither of 
> you seem to have noticed that the Start Menu folders, system or user, 
> are largely ignored in Windows 10 (actually IMS it's Windows 8+).  What 
> determines what 'tiles' appear on the RHS of a given user's Start Menu 
> in Windows 10?  I, a Windows user since 3.1 of some 40 years standing, 
> who has created all the Windows builds used in a major UK financial 
> business, have no fucking idea.
> 
> *Logically* and *rationally* (terms that Microsoft programmers don't 
> seem to understand) you'd expect there to be a sub-folder of the user's 
> profile containing the icons that the user has pinned to Start.  Based 
> on Windows 7, I'd expect it to be ...
>   %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick 
> Launch\User Pinned\StartMenu
> ... but, if that was really the case, everything in that folder at the 
> time of upgrading to W10 should automatically appear on a user's Start 
> Menu, but it doesn't; moreover, there doesn't seem to be a folder that 
> contains the bloat crap that does appear on a user's Start Menu, so I 
> think it must now be held in the registry somewhere.

  I think you should concentrate on non-QuickLaunch and non-Pinned
stuff. (I never used (the) Quick Launch (bar?).)

  If Windows 10 works the same as Windows 11 does - and I don't think
anything changed in this respect from 10 to 11 - you'll find that the
folders given by right-click -> 'Open file location' in the native Start
menu, are the same as we all know and love, i.e.

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

and

C:\Users\Frank\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

  As to your stuff (not) getting from 7 to 10 in the expected place: At
least the - sort of - reverse is true: After installing Open-Shell Menu
on my Windows 11 system, its 'Programs' and 'Apps' menus automatically
got populated with all the programs and apps on the system. So
Open-Shell Menu knows how to find the folders which Windows uses and -
after checking some programs - I found that for 'Programs', both the
native Start menu and Open-Shell Menu use the *same* folders. (Which
folders 'Apps' use are mostly a mystery to many (most? all?) of us.)

  HTHs.

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Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-10 14:31 +0000
  Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-10 15:17 +0000
    Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-10 16:47 +0000
    Re: Start 'Menu' Problems mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) - 2025-02-10 17:21 +0000
  Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-10 08:27 -0800
    Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-10 17:27 +0000
  Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-10 11:45 -0500
    Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-10 17:50 +0000
      Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-10 13:19 -0500
        Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-10 19:14 +0000
      Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-10 20:21 +0000
  Re: Start 'Menu' Problems MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-02-10 19:00 +0000
    Re: Start 'Menu' Problems MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-02-10 19:03 +0000
      Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-10 19:24 +0000
        Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-11 13:25 +0000
          Re: Start 'Menu' Problems MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-02-12 13:56 +0000
            Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-12 18:04 +0000

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