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Re: Start 'Menu' Problems

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On 10/02/2025 14:31, Java Jive wrote:
> One of the first things I do in Windows 10 is remove all the Microshit 
> bloat tiles from the Start 'Menu', and drag its right-hand border 
> inwards to leave just the program list.  However, today I thought that I 
> might try to use the Start 'Menu' as originally intended, and put my own 
> stuff there, because using the program list supplied by Windows 10 is 
> just a PITA, a significant problem being:
> 
> :-(  If your original W7 Start Menu had two versions of a program 
> *anywhere* in it  -  as does mine, twice over, because besides the 
> current version of Firefox I have an older version with a different 
> profile for debugging my website, and I have two Thunderbird profiles, 
> one for mail, and the other for news  -  then Windows, even Windows 7, 
> is incapable of distinguishing between the two.
> 
> The two Firefox versions weren't much of a problem in Windows 7, because 
> they are in Start Menu links, and, because the command lines in the 
> links are different because the profile parameter is different, they 
> appear correctly as two different items in the one submenu where they 
> appear together, and I can pin the current version to the Start Menu to 
> have it available at the top level there without W7 getting confused 
> between the two.  Not so in Windows 10+, which insists on offering 
> *only* the legacy debugging version when I start to type F-i-r-e-f-o-x, 
> which frankly seems utterly perverse.  However I could just uninstall 
> the legacy version, so, although immensely irritating because it's just 
> another example of Microshit bug-gery causing unnecessary problems 
> through lack of thought and proper testing, I can probably get around it.
> 
> The two Thunderbird links were more of a problem even in Windows 7, 
> because I wanted them both pinned to the top-level of the Start Menu, 
> and, because they linked to the same program, I could only have one or 
> the other, not both.  I got over this by creating two links to 
> thunderbird.exe called thunderbird_mail.exe and thunderbird_news.exe and 
> putting those in the command line of the Start Menu links, and then 
> pinning both to the Start Menu successfully.  But this ruse no longer 
> works in Windows 10, so when I pin the first, I only get an option to 
> unpin the second, even though it's not pinned.
> 
> I've spent over an hour this morning on my third ranked PC trying to get 
> around this problem before backing up W10 and upgrading it to Windows 
> 11.  Can anyone suggest how I can get the two links onto the Start Menu? 
>   For reference, the two command-lines are ...
> 
>      Target:    <link path>\thunderbird_mail.exe -no-remote -P Mail
>      Start in:  <profile path>\Mail
> 
> ... and ...
> 
>      Target:    <link path>\thunderbird_news.exe -no-remote -P News
>      Start in:  <profile path>\News
> 
> Another problem:  One might have thought I could just select all the 
> links in the top level of my W7 Start Menu, still there in W10 but 
> ignored by it, <rt-click> the selection, and choose 'Pin to Start'?  Not 
> so fast and convenient, it only pins the first in the selection, so 
> really that's yet another bug.
> 
> Another problem:  Digiguide, admittedly quite an old version, but it 
> works in Windows 7, is prevented from running in Windows 10, without any 
> explanation as to why.
> 
> Rant:  This is the sort of exasperating, maddening time-wasting shit 
> that happens every time I try and domesticate Windows 10 or 11, and 
> usually I just give up and revert to 7, which, though it took a long 
> time a while back, I was able in the end to house-train sufficiently to 
> make it ergonomically efficient and thus very usable.  I've never been 
> able to achieve this in Windows 10 or 11.
> 
I don't understand your problem with Thunderbird.

I use one TB installation with two profiles on both Win 10 and 11, 
creating a shortcut for each profile. On Win 11 I just added both 
profiles to the Start Menu, simply right click each profile and select 
the pin option.

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Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-10 14:31 +0000
  Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-10 15:17 +0000
    Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-10 16:47 +0000
    Re: Start 'Menu' Problems mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) - 2025-02-10 17:21 +0000
  Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-10 08:27 -0800
    Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-10 17:27 +0000
  Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-10 11:45 -0500
    Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-10 17:50 +0000
      Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-10 13:19 -0500
        Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-10 19:14 +0000
      Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-10 20:21 +0000
  Re: Start 'Menu' Problems MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-02-10 19:00 +0000
    Re: Start 'Menu' Problems MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-02-10 19:03 +0000
      Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-10 19:24 +0000
        Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-11 13:25 +0000
          Re: Start 'Menu' Problems MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-02-12 13:56 +0000
            Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-12 18:04 +0000

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