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| From | Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-10 |
| Subject | Start 'Menu' Problems |
| Date | 2025-02-10 14:31 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <vod2kc$18bhc$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
One of the first things I do in Windows 10 is remove all the Microshit
bloat tiles from the Start 'Menu', and drag its right-hand border
inwards to leave just the program list. However, today I thought that I
might try to use the Start 'Menu' as originally intended, and put my own
stuff there, because using the program list supplied by Windows 10 is
just a PITA, a significant problem being:
:-( If your original W7 Start Menu had two versions of a program
*anywhere* in it - as does mine, twice over, because besides the
current version of Firefox I have an older version with a different
profile for debugging my website, and I have two Thunderbird profiles,
one for mail, and the other for news - then Windows, even Windows 7,
is incapable of distinguishing between the two.
The two Firefox versions weren't much of a problem in Windows 7, because
they are in Start Menu links, and, because the command lines in the
links are different because the profile parameter is different, they
appear correctly as two different items in the one submenu where they
appear together, and I can pin the current version to the Start Menu to
have it available at the top level there without W7 getting confused
between the two. Not so in Windows 10+, which insists on offering
*only* the legacy debugging version when I start to type F-i-r-e-f-o-x,
which frankly seems utterly perverse. However I could just uninstall
the legacy version, so, although immensely irritating because it's just
another example of Microshit bug-gery causing unnecessary problems
through lack of thought and proper testing, I can probably get around it.
The two Thunderbird links were more of a problem even in Windows 7,
because I wanted them both pinned to the top-level of the Start Menu,
and, because they linked to the same program, I could only have one or
the other, not both. I got over this by creating two links to
thunderbird.exe called thunderbird_mail.exe and thunderbird_news.exe and
putting those in the command line of the Start Menu links, and then
pinning both to the Start Menu successfully. But this ruse no longer
works in Windows 10, so when I pin the first, I only get an option to
unpin the second, even though it's not pinned.
I've spent over an hour this morning on my third ranked PC trying to get
around this problem before backing up W10 and upgrading it to Windows
11. Can anyone suggest how I can get the two links onto the Start Menu?
For reference, the two command-lines are ...
Target: <link path>\thunderbird_mail.exe -no-remote -P Mail
Start in: <profile path>\Mail
... and ...
Target: <link path>\thunderbird_news.exe -no-remote -P News
Start in: <profile path>\News
Another problem: One might have thought I could just select all the
links in the top level of my W7 Start Menu, still there in W10 but
ignored by it, <rt-click> the selection, and choose 'Pin to Start'? Not
so fast and convenient, it only pins the first in the selection, so
really that's yet another bug.
Another problem: Digiguide, admittedly quite an old version, but it
works in Windows 7, is prevented from running in Windows 10, without any
explanation as to why.
Rant: This is the sort of exasperating, maddening time-wasting shit
that happens every time I try and domesticate Windows 10 or 11, and
usually I just give up and revert to 7, which, though it took a long
time a while back, I was able in the end to house-train sufficiently to
make it ergonomically efficient and thus very usable. I've never been
able to achieve this in Windows 10 or 11.
--
Fake news kills!
I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
www.macfh.co.uk
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Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-10 14:31 +0000
Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-10 15:17 +0000
Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-10 16:47 +0000
Re: Start 'Menu' Problems mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) - 2025-02-10 17:21 +0000
Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-10 08:27 -0800
Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-10 17:27 +0000
Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-10 11:45 -0500
Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-10 17:50 +0000
Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-10 13:19 -0500
Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-10 19:14 +0000
Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-10 20:21 +0000
Re: Start 'Menu' Problems MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-02-10 19:00 +0000
Re: Start 'Menu' Problems MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-02-10 19:03 +0000
Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-10 19:24 +0000
Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-11 13:25 +0000
Re: Start 'Menu' Problems MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-02-12 13:56 +0000
Re: Start 'Menu' Problems Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-12 18:04 +0000
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