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  personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-11 17:49 +0200
    Re: personal cloud "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 18:55 +0200
    Re: personal cloud "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-11 19:01 +0200
    Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-11 19:36 +0200
      Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-11 19:39 +0200
    Re: personal cloud William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-11 18:56 +0000
      Re: personal cloud "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-11 21:57 +0200
        Re: personal cloud William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-11 20:54 +0000
          Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 11:48 +0200
            Re: personal cloud Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-12 10:40 +0000
            Re: personal cloud Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-10-12 05:46 -0500
              Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 13:33 +0200
                Re: personal cloud Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-12 12:12 +0000
                  Re: personal cloud "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-10-13 07:32 +0200
        Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 11:37 +0200
      Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 11:35 +0200
        Re: personal cloud Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-10-12 04:48 -0500
          Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 13:06 +0200
            Re: personal cloud "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-12 13:43 +0200
            Re: personal cloud Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-10-12 07:29 -0500
            Re: personal cloud Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 12:58 +0000
              Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 16:59 +0200
                Re: personal cloud Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-12 15:34 +0000
                Re: personal cloud "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-14 14:14 +0200
              Re: personal cloud Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-12 22:34 +0000
                Re: personal cloud William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-10-13 15:03 +0000
                  Re: personal cloud Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-13 18:50 +0000
          Re: personal cloud Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> - 2018-10-12 14:33 +0200
            Re: personal cloud Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-10-12 07:45 -0500
        Re: personal cloud Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-12 22:24 +0000

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#281 — personal cloud

does anybody knows a software for creating a personal cloud ?
I mean some server "lite" very easy to configure or 
pre-configured for the task, in order to build a personal 
cloud ?

With "personal cloud" I mean a remote shared disk (or just 
some folders) accessible via web and linux gui clients, in 
other words a sort of "DropBox" but using one's own disk 
storage as cloud depot.

Obviously safe sw (not easily intruded), and able also to 
sub-share parts of the cloud space with other users invited 
or given some credentials.

I'm rather pessimistic about this ... but an attempt to ask 
for is worth while !

Ciao


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#282

On 11/10/2018 17.49, Soviet_Mario wrote:
> does anybody knows a software for creating a personal cloud ?
> I mean some server "lite" very easy to configure or pre-configured for
> the task, in order to build a personal cloud ?
> 
> With "personal cloud" I mean a remote shared disk (or just some folders)
> accessible via web and linux gui clients, in other words a sort of
> "DropBox" but using one's own disk storage as cloud depot.
> 
> Obviously safe sw (not easily intruded), and able also to sub-share
> parts of the cloud space with other users invited or given some
> credentials.
> 
> I'm rather pessimistic about this ... but an attempt to ask for is worth
> while !
> 
> Ciao
> 
> 

ownCloud?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OwnCloud


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#283

On 10/11/18 5:49 PM, Soviet_Mario wrote:
> does anybody knows a software for creating a personal cloud ?
> I mean some server "lite" very easy to configure or pre-configured for
> the task, in order to build a personal cloud ?
> 
> With "personal cloud" I mean a remote shared disk (or just some folders)
> accessible via web and linux gui clients, in other words a sort of
> "DropBox" but using one's own disk storage as cloud depot.
> 
> Obviously safe sw (not easily intruded), and able also to sub-share
> parts of the cloud space with other users invited or given some
> credentials.
> 
> I'm rather pessimistic about this ... but an attempt to ask for is worth
> while !

nextCloud

Home Page:  https://nextcloud.com
Wikipedia:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nextcloud


IMHO easier to upgrade to a new version than ownCloud. Both the
nextCloud and ownClound client works as the API is still quite similar.

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#284

On 11/10/18 17:49, Soviet_Mario wrote:

for example, what do you think about these two ...

https://nextcloud.com/athome/
https://nextcloud.com/compare/

and

https://owncloud.org/features/

are they difficult to configure for a person without 
experience with servers ?
Do they install a minimal server along with the cloud client ?


> does anybody knows a software for creating a personal cloud ?
> I mean some server "lite" very easy to configure or 
> pre-configured for the task, in order to build a personal 
> cloud ?
> 
> With "personal cloud" I mean a remote shared disk (or just 
> some folders) accessible via web and linux gui clients, in 
> other words a sort of "DropBox" but using one's own disk 
> storage as cloud depot.
> 
> Obviously safe sw (not easily intruded), and able also to 
> sub-share parts of the cloud space with other users invited 
> or given some credentials.
> 
> I'm rather pessimistic about this ... but an attempt to ask 
> for is worth while !
> 
> Ciao
> 
> 


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#285

On 11/10/18 19:36, Soviet_Mario wrote:
> On 11/10/18 17:49, Soviet_Mario wrote:
> 
> for example, what do you think about these two ...
> 
> https://nextcloud.com/athome/
> https://nextcloud.com/compare/
> 
> and
> 
> https://owncloud.org/features/

oh, sorry, I met problems in posting and the post was deferred.
I see now you two have replied with the same suggestions ... 
I'm gonna try one of them.

Thanks

> 
> are they difficult to configure for a person without 
> experience with servers ?
> Do they install a minimal server along with the cloud client ?
> 
> 
>> does anybody knows a software for creating a personal cloud ?
>> I mean some server "lite" very easy to configure or 
>> pre-configured for the task, in order to build a personal 
>> cloud ?
>>
>> With "personal cloud" I mean a remote shared disk (or just 
>> some folders) accessible via web and linux gui clients, in 
>> other words a sort of "DropBox" but using one's own disk 
>> storage as cloud depot.
>>
>> Obviously safe sw (not easily intruded), and able also to 
>> sub-share parts of the cloud space with other users 
>> invited or given some credentials.
>>
>> I'm rather pessimistic about this ... but an attempt to 
>> ask for is worth while !
>>
>> Ciao
>>
>>
> 
> 


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#286

On 2018-10-11, Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> wrote:
> does anybody knows a software for creating a personal cloud ?
> I mean some server "lite" very easy to configure or 
> pre-configured for the task, in order to build a personal 
> cloud ?
>
> With "personal cloud" I mean a remote shared disk (or just 
> some folders) accessible via web and linux gui clients, in 
> other words a sort of "DropBox" but using one's own disk 
> storage as cloud depot.

Do you mean some disk whose partitions can bee remote mounted by NFS?
Is that similar to what you mean? 
>
> Obviously safe sw (not easily intruded), and able also to 
> sub-share parts of the cloud space with other users invited 
> or given some credentials.

Sounds like NFS to me. 

>
> I'm rather pessimistic about this ... but an attempt to ask 
> for is worth while !
>
> Ciao
>
>

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#287

On 10/11/18 8:56 PM, William Unruh wrote:
> On 2018-10-11, Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> wrote:
>> does anybody knows a software for creating a personal cloud ?
>> I mean some server "lite" very easy to configure or 
>> pre-configured for the task, in order to build a personal 
>> cloud ?
>>
>> With "personal cloud" I mean a remote shared disk (or just 
>> some folders) accessible via web and linux gui clients, in 
>> other words a sort of "DropBox" but using one's own disk 
>> storage as cloud depot.
> 
> Do you mean some disk whose partitions can bee remote mounted by NFS?
> Is that similar to what you mean? 
>>
>> Obviously safe sw (not easily intruded), and able also to 
>> sub-share parts of the cloud space with other users invited 
>> or given some credentials.
> 
> Sounds like NFS to me. 

I have been using NFS since 1990's and I have still not seen an invite
system built into NFS :)

The OP is looking for nextCloud/ownCloud or similar solutions.

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 //Aho

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#288

On 2018-10-11, J.O. Aho <user@example.net> wrote:
> On 10/11/18 8:56 PM, William Unruh wrote:
>> On 2018-10-11, Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> wrote:
>>> does anybody knows a software for creating a personal cloud ?
>>> I mean some server "lite" very easy to configure or 
>>> pre-configured for the task, in order to build a personal 
>>> cloud ?
>>>
>>> With "personal cloud" I mean a remote shared disk (or just 
>>> some folders) accessible via web and linux gui clients, in 
>>> other words a sort of "DropBox" but using one's own disk 
>>> storage as cloud depot.
>> 
>> Do you mean some disk whose partitions can bee remote mounted by NFS?
>> Is that similar to what you mean? 
>>>
>>> Obviously safe sw (not easily intruded), and able also to 
>>> sub-share parts of the cloud space with other users invited 
>>> or given some credentials.
>> 
>> Sounds like NFS to me. 
>
> I have been using NFS since 1990's and I have still not seen an invite
> system built into NFS :)

As with all Linux/Unix tools, you use many small tools to build a big
system. If you want to invite someone, you can always send them and
email. Besides it sounded to me like he really wanted this for his own
use, not for distributing stuff to a huge crown of people. I guess the
subtext was to try to find out what it was that he really wanted. It
sounded like he had found a "solution" (cloud something or another) to
an ill defined problem he had. Without a clear view of the problem,
finding the best solution is hopeless.

>
> The OP is looking for nextCloud/ownCloud or similar solutions.
O
You know this how? Yes, he talks about "cloud" but that is not problem.
It is a solution. I would like to know what problem it is he wants to
solve first.
>

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#291

On 11/10/18 22:54, William Unruh wrote:
> On 2018-10-11, J.O. Aho <user@example.net> wrote:
>> On 10/11/18 8:56 PM, William Unruh wrote:
>>> On 2018-10-11, Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> wrote:
>>>> does anybody knows a software for creating a personal cloud ?
>>>> I mean some server "lite" very easy to configure or
>>>> pre-configured for the task, in order to build a personal
>>>> cloud ?
>>>>
>>>> With "personal cloud" I mean a remote shared disk (or just
>>>> some folders) accessible via web and linux gui clients, in
>>>> other words a sort of "DropBox" but using one's own disk
>>>> storage as cloud depot.
>>>
>>> Do you mean some disk whose partitions can bee remote mounted by NFS?
>>> Is that similar to what you mean?
>>>>
>>>> Obviously safe sw (not easily intruded), and able also to
>>>> sub-share parts of the cloud space with other users invited
>>>> or given some credentials.
>>>
>>> Sounds like NFS to me.
>>
>> I have been using NFS since 1990's and I have still not seen an invite
>> system built into NFS :)
> 
> As with all Linux/Unix tools, you use many small tools to build a big
> system. 

surely true, but a solution not very apt to unskilled person :\

> If you want to invite someone, you can always send them and
> email.

I'd like to share one single link in order for users without 
password to be able to just download files (and reserving to 
myself the ability to load contents and modify them).

> Besides it sounded to me like he really wanted this for his own
> use, not for distributing stuff to a huge crown of people.

I'd be halfway from both :)
I need to share, definitely, but with very small number of 
users (some tens, at worst 100-200 people, and not 
simultaneously)

> I guess the
> subtext was to try to find out what it was that he really wanted. It
> sounded like he had found a "solution" (cloud something or another) to
> an ill defined problem he had. Without a clear view of the problem,
> finding the best solution is hopeless.

I am currently using DropBox, and qualitatively it complies 
with all my needs. The problem is just storage capacity, 
which is low.
I have bulky data (recorded audio-video lessons) that I'd 
like to share with intrested students, that cannot stay on 
the 5 GB cloud (they are 60-80 GB of data, on some disks of 
mine).
I'd like to share SAFELY part of my storage data
* keeping the machine powered on
* regardless of dynamically assigned IP (real-time syncing 
more or less, but better than real-time, automatic 
reconnection on IP change if line drops and the provider 
reassign a different IP)
* controlling privileges of access on the DATA : myself = 
total control, users who just have the shared link, only 
download (no change on my storage allowed). I mean, I don't 
need sort of GIT or google docs for many authors to modify 
shared docs. Just read-only guests.

> 
>>
>> The OP is looking for nextCloud/ownCloud or similar solutions.
> O
> You know this how? Yes, he talks about "cloud" but that is not problem.

but It is my actual solution, and it's good except from 
insufficient storage. That's why I'd like to directly share 
part of my HDD's space. But SAFELY !!!

> It is a solution. I would like to know what problem it is he wants to
> solve first.

I tried to clarify the point. Share, in read only mode, 
"huge" amount of data. And free of charge :)
I'm not s'posed to pay for keeping and sharing my data :)

>>


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#293

Soviet_Mario wrote:
> On 11/10/18 22:54, William Unruh wrote:
>> [...]
>> As with all Linux/Unix tools, you use many small tools to build a big
>> system. 
>
> surely true, but a solution not very apt to unskilled person :\

And setting up {own,next}cloud, and keeping up with security, and all
that jazz is?

I mean, don't get me wrong, it's probably a weekend or two's worth of
work, but not exactly hard.

>
>> If you want to invite someone, you can always send them and
>> email.
>
> I'd like to share one single link in order for users without 
> password to be able to just download files (and reserving to 
> myself the ability to load contents and modify them).

Just run static html then.  Sure, it's not as "pretty", but if it's just
to "let the public grab files(tm)", you don't exactly need "pretty".

For example, my site (http://www.djph.net) does exactly this.  I can
also send direct links to things:
http://www.djph.net/linuxstuff/minthelp/minthelp.tgz

(here's hoping I didn't typo it :) )

Sure, changes to the content are slightly more involved than "point, and
drool", but ... 

(1) put content in ${www_root}/path/to/thing
(2) update ${www_root}/index.html and add <a href="link_here">text</a>
    to create the link on the homepage.

> [...]
> I am currently using DropBox, and qualitatively it complies 
> with all my needs. The problem is just storage capacity, 
> which is low.
> I have bulky data (recorded audio-video lessons) that I'd 
> like to share with intrested students, that cannot stay on 
> the 5 GB cloud (they are 60-80 GB of data, on some disks of 
> mine).

Uh, sounds like you're looking for "youtube".  I hear they're great for
sharing videos.

> I'd like to share SAFELY part of my storage data
> * keeping the machine powered on

UPS, or better yet a generator (note, will not save you from ISP losing
power though ;) )

> * regardless of dynamically assigned IP (real-time syncing 
> more or less, but better than real-time, automatic 
> reconnection on IP change if line drops and the provider 
> reassign a different IP)

Dynamic DNS setup, with auto-updates.  See providers such as dyndns.com,
no-ip.com, etc.

> * controlling privileges of access on the DATA : myself = 
> total control, users who just have the shared link, only 
> download (no change on my storage allowed). I mean, I don't 
> need sort of GIT or google docs for many authors to modify 
> shared docs. Just read-only guests.

Again, static html.  Although that is slightly more of a pain for video
(but it's not exactly an 'unsolved problem').


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#294

On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:48:13 +0200, Soviet_Mario wrote:
>
> I'd be halfway from both :)
> I need to share, definitely, but with very small number of 
> users (some tens, at worst 100-200 people, and not 
> simultaneously)

You might want to check your upload speed:
      https://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
or    http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest

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#296

On 12/10/18 12:46, Bit Twister wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:48:13 +0200, Soviet_Mario wrote:
>>
>> I'd be halfway from both :)
>> I need to share, definitely, but with very small number of
>> users (some tens, at worst 100-200 people, and not
>> simultaneously)
> 
> You might want to check your upload speed:
>        https://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
> or    http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest
> 

nice service !
I got this results :
download : 2,76 Mbits/s
upload : 492,3 kBits/s

very modest in their stats (I don't have optical fibre, 
still relying on copper)

but I have been misleading.
100-200 people is the number of the students in the courses, 
not the number of users connected. It would be very unusual 
to have just more than 2-3 of them connected at the same 
time i reckon ....

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#298

Soviet_Mario wrote:
> On 12/10/18 12:46, Bit Twister wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:48:13 +0200, Soviet_Mario wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd be halfway from both :)
>>> I need to share, definitely, but with very small number of
>>> users (some tens, at worst 100-200 people, and not
>>> simultaneously)
>> 
>> You might want to check your upload speed:
>>        https://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
>> or    http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest
>> 
>
> nice service !
> I got this results :
> download : 2,76 Mbits/s
> upload : 492,3 kBits/s

And you want to share videos that're hundreds of MB, if not 1 GB each!?

You're mad.

500kbit / sec is 62.5 kByte / sec.

It will take your users
 - 16 seconds to download 1 MB of data
 - (about) 3 minutes to download 10 MB of data
 - (about) half an hour to download 100MB of data
 - (about) 4.5 HOURS to download 1 GB

Somewhere you mentioned 80GB of data total ... that's OVER 15 DAYS of
downloading - for ONE person, alone, trying to download stuff from you.

> but I have been misleading.
> 100-200 people is the number of the students in the courses, 
> not the number of users connected. It would be very unusual 
> to have just more than 2-3 of them connected at the same 
> time i reckon ....

Not given your crapass upload speeds.


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#307

On 10/13/18 4:08 AM, Jasen Betts wrote:
> On 2018-10-13, Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> wrote:
>> On 13/10/18 00:50, Jasen Betts wrote:
>>> On 2018-10-12, Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> wrote:
>>>> On 12/10/18 15:01, Dan Purgert wrote:
>>>
>>> yeah, bit-torrent, gnutella or some other peer-to-peer solution
>>> might work.
>>>
>>
>> OMG !!! Maybe you have cracked the maze.
>> This solution seems really perfect.
>> I have any right to share the contents on a P2P network.
>> It would work.
>>
>> I just have two things to decide.
>>
>> 1) Whether or not I'd be willing to seed in a LITERAL sense 
>> (not just by name, being IDLE most of the time, but 
>> uploading constantly), as it could block most my other net 
>> activities (yes, I could always assign a modest quota to the 
>> upload bandwidth ...)
>>
>> 2) Whether or not to abandon any restriction in access. Now 
>> I'm sharing just with my students (as dropbox has this 
>> feature), in such a case I'd be sharing with the world over.
>>
>> But the idea is darn good !
>> Thanks
> 
> Maybe you can encrypt the files to reduce their distribution.
> OTOH noting is stopping your studens from sharing decrypted
> files either way.

With DRM it would be possible to get some control over who can use the
files.

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#290

On 11/10/18 21:57, J.O. Aho wrote:
> On 10/11/18 8:56 PM, William Unruh wrote:
>> On 2018-10-11, Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> wrote:
>>> does anybody knows a software for creating a personal cloud ?
>>> I mean some server "lite" very easy to configure or
>>> pre-configured for the task, in order to build a personal
>>> cloud ?
>>>
>>> With "personal cloud" I mean a remote shared disk (or just
>>> some folders) accessible via web and linux gui clients, in
>>> other words a sort of "DropBox" but using one's own disk
>>> storage as cloud depot.
>>
>> Do you mean some disk whose partitions can bee remote mounted by NFS?
>> Is that similar to what you mean?
>>>
>>> Obviously safe sw (not easily intruded), and able also to
>>> sub-share parts of the cloud space with other users invited
>>> or given some credentials.
>>
>> Sounds like NFS to me.
> 
> I have been using NFS since 1990's and I have still not seen an invite
> system built into NFS :)

not sure I understood exactly, but if with "invite system" 
you meant a way to share with unprivileged users, yes, then 
NFS would not suit me : I need to share documents while 
maintaining the exclusive privilege to upload (i mean sync, 
not actually upload phisically, and modify)

> 
> The OP is looking for nextCloud/ownCloud or similar solutions.

I'll try them or one of them soon.
Tnx

> 


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#289

On 11/10/18 20:56, William Unruh wrote:
> On 2018-10-11, Soviet_Mario <SovietMario@CCCP.MIR> wrote:
>> does anybody knows a software for creating a personal cloud ?
>> I mean some server "lite" very easy to configure or
>> pre-configured for the task, in order to build a personal
>> cloud ?
>>
>> With "personal cloud" I mean a remote shared disk (or just
>> some folders) accessible via web and linux gui clients, in
>> other words a sort of "DropBox" but using one's own disk
>> storage as cloud depot.
> 
> Do you mean some disk whose partitions can bee remote mounted by NFS?
> Is that similar to what you mean?

good question ... I don't know :\
I mean, I'm not sure what NFS is, so I can't tell.
I'd like something DropBox, accessible (with credentials 
logins and possibility to share sub-storage with different 
level of control, i.g. for non admin users just view and 
download, for myself also to ADD and MODIFY files) from 
remote, but with no storage on 3rd party servers, just on my 
partition. In that case I'd keep the machine on power obviously.

Ah a detail I didn't give formerly : I have an ADSL 
connection with dynamically assigned IP, thus the 
clients/server should be able to manage some form of 
IP-independent net communication

>>
>> Obviously safe sw (not easily intruded), and able also to
>> sub-share parts of the cloud space with other users invited
>> or given some credentials.
> 
> Sounds like NFS to me.

I'll try to discover what NFS is ...
thanks for the hint

> 
>>
>> I'm rather pessimistic about this ... but an attempt to ask
>> for is worth while !
>>
>> Ciao
>>
>>


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2) Se tutti pagano le tasse, le tasse le pagano tutti
Soviet_Mario - (aka Gatto_Vizzato)

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#292

On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:35:32 +0200, Soviet_Mario wrote:
>
> Ah a detail I didn't give formerly : I have an ADSL 
> connection with dynamically assigned IP, thus the 
> clients/server should be able to manage some form of 
> IP-independent net communication

Think about that for a minute. How would anyone wanting to connect to
your cloud know its ip address when the ip address changes?

Here put
     How can I host a website on a dynamically-assigned IP address
in the Second box at
     https://encrypted.google.com/advanced_search

You might consider bookmarking the above url for later use.  :)

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#295

On 12/10/18 11:48, Bit Twister wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:35:32 +0200, Soviet_Mario wrote:
>>
>> Ah a detail I didn't give formerly : I have an ADSL
>> connection with dynamically assigned IP, thus the
>> clients/server should be able to manage some form of
>> IP-independent net communication
> 
> Think about that for a minute. How would anyone wanting to connect to
> your cloud know its ip address when the ip address changes?
> 

I'm rather ignorant of networks and I tend to think in other 
terms.

Let me give an example.

When using a "variable" in a program, normally I can access 
it by physical address or by name.
Someone (a further layer) takes care of translating the 
higher level name in a machine level pyisical address.

As I know nothing of networks, I assumed it could be 
possible to access a website BY NAME, delegating some other 
service to translate it. If it is possible.
Is it not ? Never ever ?

> Here put
>       How can I host a website on a dynamically-assigned IP address
> in the Second box at
>       https://encrypted.google.com/advanced_search
> 
> You might consider bookmarking the above url for later use.  :)
> 


-- 
1) Resistere, resistere, resistere.
2) Se tutti pagano le tasse, le tasse le pagano tutti
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#297

On 12/10/2018 13.06, Soviet_Mario wrote:
> On 12/10/18 11:48, Bit Twister wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:35:32 +0200, Soviet_Mario wrote:
>>>
>>> Ah a detail I didn't give formerly : I have an ADSL
>>> connection with dynamically assigned IP, thus the
>>> clients/server should be able to manage some form of
>>> IP-independent net communication
>>
>> Think about that for a minute. How would anyone wanting to connect to
>> your cloud know its ip address when the ip address changes?
>>
> 
> I'm rather ignorant of networks and I tend to think in other terms.
> 
> Let me give an example.
> 
> When using a "variable" in a program, normally I can access it by
> physical address or by name.
> Someone (a further layer) takes care of translating the higher level
> name in a machine level pyisical address.
> 
> As I know nothing of networks, I assumed it could be possible to access
> a website BY NAME, delegating some other service to translate it. If it
> is possible.
> Is it not ? Never ever ?

Certainly. That's DNS.
You have an URL: www.mysite.org

It points to the actual IP. The IP changes: a script at your site
notices and updates the DNS entry to point to the new IP.

Of course, the people that are at that instant downloading a file will
be disrupted. They have to connect again and tell their client to
refresh. Depending, the client will be able to continue where it was or
will start again the download.

No, NFS is not what you want. Plain http is, if you want to host the
files yourself. You have to set an apache server for that.  But if you
use ADSL, your clients will have to download pretty slowly. Better get a
fibre to the home connection.

However, perhaps youtube is easier, if what you have are lessons in video.

An alternative to http, if you want to control who downloads, is scp
(secure copy). ie, ssh.

As to the DNS: you have to set up a dynamic DNS setup with someone. It
is possible that your router already knows about some of these, so you
need to register, perhaps pay, and set it up.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#299

On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:06:33 +0200, Soviet_Mario wrote:
> On 12/10/18 11:48, Bit Twister wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:35:32 +0200, Soviet_Mario wrote:
>>>
>>> Ah a detail I didn't give formerly : I have an ADSL
>>> connection with dynamically assigned IP, thus the
>>> clients/server should be able to manage some form of
>>> IP-independent net communication
>> 
>> Think about that for a minute. How would anyone wanting to connect to
>> your cloud know its ip address when the ip address changes?
>> 
>
> I'm rather ignorant of networks and I tend to think in other 
> terms.
>
> Let me give an example.
>
> When using a "variable" in a program, normally I can access 
> it by physical address or by name.
> Someone (a further layer) takes care of translating the 
> higher level name in a machine level pyisical address.
>
> As I know nothing of networks, I assumed it could be 
> possible to access a website BY NAME, delegating some other 
> service to translate it. If it is possible.
> Is it not ? Never ever ?

Anyone wanting to connect to another system can do so by name if there
is some Domain Name Service (DNS) server that has the name to ip address
defined.

Take yahoo.com for instance. Currently those are
$ whois yahoo.com | grep 'Name  Server:'
   Name Server: NS1.YAHOO.COM
   Name Server: NS2.YAHOO.COM
   Name Server: NS3.YAHOO.COM
   Name Server: NS4.YAHOO.COM
   Name Server: NS5.YAHOO.COM

So if I
     $ ping -c1 yahoo.com
one of the above DNS servers returns 72.30.35.9 and I can ping it.
A reverse lookup of that ip address gets the requests set to one of
the servers which returns media-router-fp1.prod1.media.vip.bf1.yahoo.com

Go ahead and run ping -c1 yahoo.com and you might note you do not get the
same values that I did.



Take a look at you DNS results, paste this in a terminal
  My_ip=$(wget -qO - http://myip.dnsomatic.com/)
  ping -c1 -w2 $My_ip

If wget is not installed run
    My_ip=$(curl http://myip.dnsomatic.com)
   ping -c1 -w2 $My_ip


If you do not see a name for your ip address, then there is no reverse
lookup for your ip address provided by your ISP's DNS servers.

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