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  Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-05 13:55 +0000
    Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-05 15:27 +0000
      Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-06 09:52 +0000
        Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-06 12:35 +0000
          Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-06 13:02 +0000
            Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-06 13:57 +0000
              Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-06 16:55 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-06 18:20 +0000
                  Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-07 09:57 +0000
                    Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love "Ted&Alice" <ted.smasher@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 09:23 -0800
                      Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-07 18:31 +0000
                        Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-08 23:46 +0000
                          Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-03-09 22:38 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-06 19:02 +0000
                  Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-06 19:22 +0000
                  Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-03-06 15:15 -0500
                    Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 00:11 -0500
                      Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-03-07 18:30 -0500
                    Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-07 12:03 +0000
                      Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-07 19:32 +0000

#2070326 — Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love

On 04/03/2016 22:10, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> Alex W. wrote:
>
>> On 04/03/2016 18:28, Ted&Alice wrote:
>>> On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 3:57:51 PM UTC, Alex W. wrote:
>>>> On 04/03/2016 02:27, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
>>>>> Robert Duncan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/3/2016 8:40 PM, Bob Officer wrote:
>>>>>>> Robert Duncan <rob-duncan32@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/3/2016 2:14 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 03/03/2016 13:47, Robert Duncan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/3/2016 8:02 AM, Alex W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/03/2016 19:20, Robert Duncan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/2/2016 3:09 AM, Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <nb5fs7$qk6$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Duncan <rob-duncan32@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> <Snip>
>>>>>>>>>> You're the one with a lot of theological contortions,
>>>>>>>>>> twisting
>>>>>> and >>>> distorting what has been accepted by millions of people
>> for >>>>the last two >>>> thousand years, and exaggerating with
>>>>>> anthropomorphisms the sovereignty >>>> of God, you lack
>> understanding
>>>>>> of the word "omnipotent".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Argumentum ad populum.
>>>>>>>>> Just because lots of people believe in something does
>>>>>>>>> not make it
>>>>>> true, >>> nor does it confer credibility or legitimacy on the
>> belief
>>>>>> itself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, you're wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do not believe God exists, nor that the Bible is the
>>>>>>>> Word of God simply because most people are inclined to
>>>>>>>> believe it, so the
>>>>>> Appeal to >> Popularity fallacy does not hold up in this case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So are you lying now, or were you lying when you posted:
>>>>>>> "The only claims I have made are that I believe God exists,
>>>>>>> and I believe the Bible is the Word of God." In your reply
>>>>>>> with ID Message-Id:  <nba576$s06$1@dont-email.me>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is English your second language?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you ask? Is he one of those illiterates who don't know
>>>>> the difference between "tenets" and "tenants"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is English your second language, Robert?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Silly cheap shot, that, and not one which in any way enhances
>>>> either his credibility or his argument.
>>>
>>> Sorry, Alex. Ya gotta remember I'm just an idiot, okay? :)
>>>
>>
>> Welcome to the club.
>>
>> :-)
>
> You're unquestionably brilliant. The only idiot here is me. :)
>

Methinks he doth protest too much...

Idiots do not make for good trolls, for a start...
:-)

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#2070349

Alex W. wrote:

> On 04/03/2016 22:10, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > Alex W. wrote:
> > 
> > > On 04/03/2016 18:28, Ted&Alice wrote:
> > > > On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 3:57:51 PM UTC, Alex W. wrote:
> > > > > On 04/03/2016 02:27, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > > > > > Robert Duncan wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On 3/3/2016 8:40 PM, Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>>>>Robert Duncan <rob-duncan32@outlook.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 3/3/2016 2:14 PM, Alex W. wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On 03/03/2016 13:47, Robert Duncan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On 3/3/2016 8:02 AM, Alex W. wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 02/03/2016 19:20, Robert Duncan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/2/2016 3:09 AM, Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article <nb5fs7$qk6$2@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Robert Duncan <rob-duncan32@outlook.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > <Snip>
> > > > > > > > > > > You're the one with a lot of theological
> > > > > > > > > > > contortions, twisting
> >>>>>>and >>>> distorting what has been accepted by millions of people
> >>for >>>>the last two >>>> thousand years, and exaggerating with
> >>>>>>anthropomorphisms the sovereignty >>>> of God, you lack
> > > understanding
> > > > > > > of the word "omnipotent".
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Argumentum ad populum.
> > > > > > > > > > Just because lots of people believe in something
> > > > > > > > > > does not make it
> >>>>>>true, >>> nor does it confer credibility or legitimacy on the
> > > belief
> > > > > > > itself.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > No, you're wrong.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I do not believe God exists, nor that the Bible is the
> > > > > > > > > Word of God simply because most people are inclined to
> > > > > > > > > believe it, so the
> >>>>>>Appeal to >> Popularity fallacy does not hold up in this case.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > So are you lying now, or were you lying when you posted:
> > > > > > > > "The only claims I have made are that I believe God
> > > > > > > > exists, and I believe the Bible is the Word of God." In
> > > > > > > > your reply with ID Message-Id:
> > > > > > > > <nba576$s06$1@dont-email.me>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Is English your second language?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Why do you ask? Is he one of those illiterates who don't
> > > > > > know the difference between "tenets" and "tenants"?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Is English your second language, Robert?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Silly cheap shot, that, and not one which in any way enhances
> > > > > either his credibility or his argument.
> > > > 
> > > > Sorry, Alex. Ya gotta remember I'm just an idiot, okay? :)
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Welcome to the club.
> > > 
> > > :-)
> > 
> > You're unquestionably brilliant. The only idiot here is me. :)
> > 
> 
> Methinks he doth protest too much...
> 
> Idiots do not make for good trolls, for a start...
> :-)

Methinks you're too kind because I'm not a good troll, not by a long
shot! But I don't aspire to be one. Just an ordinary run-o'-the-mill
variety.

Creative trolls seem to appear only occasionally. One that comes to
mind is Max Varaszlo, who used to troll alt.politics.homosexuality
roughly ten years ago. Have you heard of him?

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#2070741

On 05/03/2016 15:27, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> Alex W. wrote:
>
>> On 04/03/2016 22:10, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
>>> Alex W. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 04/03/2016 18:28, Ted&Alice wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 3:57:51 PM UTC, Alex W. wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/03/2016 02:27, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
>>>>>>> Robert Duncan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/3/2016 8:40 PM, Bob Officer wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Robert Duncan <rob-duncan32@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/3/2016 2:14 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/03/2016 13:47, Robert Duncan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/3/2016 8:02 AM, Alex W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/03/2016 19:20, Robert Duncan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/2/2016 3:09 AM, Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <nb5fs7$qk6$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Duncan <rob-duncan32@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> <Snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You're the one with a lot of theological
>>>>>>>>>>>> contortions, twisting
>>>>>>>> and >>>> distorting what has been accepted by millions of people
>>>> for >>>>the last two >>>> thousand years, and exaggerating with
>>>>>>>> anthropomorphisms the sovereignty >>>> of God, you lack
>>>> understanding
>>>>>>>> of the word "omnipotent".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Argumentum ad populum.
>>>>>>>>>>> Just because lots of people believe in something
>>>>>>>>>>> does not make it
>>>>>>>> true, >>> nor does it confer credibility or legitimacy on the
>>>> belief
>>>>>>>> itself.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, you're wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I do not believe God exists, nor that the Bible is the
>>>>>>>>>> Word of God simply because most people are inclined to
>>>>>>>>>> believe it, so the
>>>>>>>> Appeal to >> Popularity fallacy does not hold up in this case.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So are you lying now, or were you lying when you posted:
>>>>>>>>> "The only claims I have made are that I believe God
>>>>>>>>> exists, and I believe the Bible is the Word of God." In
>>>>>>>>> your reply with ID Message-Id:
>>>>>>>>> <nba576$s06$1@dont-email.me>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is English your second language?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do you ask? Is he one of those illiterates who don't
>>>>>>> know the difference between "tenets" and "tenants"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is English your second language, Robert?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Silly cheap shot, that, and not one which in any way enhances
>>>>>> either his credibility or his argument.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, Alex. Ya gotta remember I'm just an idiot, okay? :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Welcome to the club.
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> You're unquestionably brilliant. The only idiot here is me. :)
>>>
>>
>> Methinks he doth protest too much...
>>
>> Idiots do not make for good trolls, for a start...
>> :-)
>
> Methinks you're too kind because I'm not a good troll, not by a long
> shot! But I don't aspire to be one. Just an ordinary run-o'-the-mill
> variety.

Oh, I think you are a step or three above that.  No drive-by flamings, 
no instantly outrageous posts...


>
> Creative trolls seem to appear only occasionally. One that comes to
> mind is Max Varaszlo, who used to troll alt.politics.homosexuality
> roughly ten years ago. Have you heard of him?
>

I'm afraid I have not had the pleasure of his online acquaintance.

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#2070773

Alex W. wrote:

> On 05/03/2016 15:27, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > Alex W. wrote:
> > 
> > > On 04/03/2016 22:10, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > > > Alex W. wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On 04/03/2016 18:28, Ted&Alice wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 3:57:51 PM UTC, Alex W. wrote:
> > > > > > > On 04/03/2016 02:27, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > > > > > > > Robert Duncan wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On 3/3/2016 8:40 PM, Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>Robert Duncan <rob-duncan32@outlook.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On 3/3/2016 2:14 PM, Alex W. wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 03/03/2016 13:47, Robert Duncan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/3/2016 8:02 AM, Alex W. wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 02/03/2016 19:20, Robert Duncan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/2/2016 3:09 AM, Wisely Non-Theist
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article <nb5fs7$qk6$2@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Robert Duncan <rob-duncan32@outlook.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > <Snip>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You're the one with a lot of theological
> > > > > > > > > > > > > contortions, twisting
> >>>>>>>>and >>>> distorting what has been accepted by millions of
> people >>>>for >>>>the last two >>>> thousand years, and exaggerating
> with >>>>>>>>anthropomorphisms the sovereignty >>>> of God, you lack
> > > > > understanding
> > > > > > > > > of the word "omnipotent".
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Argumentum ad populum.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Just because lots of people believe in something
> > > > > > > > > > > > does not make it
> >>>>>>>>true, >>> nor does it confer credibility or legitimacy on the
> > > > > belief
> > > > > > > > > itself.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > No, you're wrong.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > I do not believe God exists, nor that the Bible
> > > > > > > > > > > is the Word of God simply because most people are
> > > > > > > > > > > inclined to believe it, so the
> >>>>>>>>Appeal to >> Popularity fallacy does not hold up in this case.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > So are you lying now, or were you lying when you
> > > > > > > > > > posted:  "The only claims I have made are that I
> > > > > > > > > > believe God exists, and I believe the Bible is the
> > > > > > > > > > Word of God." In your reply with ID Message-Id:
> > > > > > > > > > <nba576$s06$1@dont-email.me>
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Is English your second language?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Why do you ask? Is he one of those illiterates who don't
> > > > > > > > know the difference between "tenets" and "tenants"?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Is English your second language, Robert?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Silly cheap shot, that, and not one which in any way
> > > > > > > enhances either his credibility or his argument.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Sorry, Alex. Ya gotta remember I'm just an idiot, okay? :)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Welcome to the club.
> > > > > 
> > > > > :-)
> > > > 
> > > > You're unquestionably brilliant. The only idiot here is me. :)
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Methinks he doth protest too much...
> > > 
> > > Idiots do not make for good trolls, for a start...
> > > :-)
> > 
> > Methinks you're too kind because I'm not a good troll, not by a long
> > shot! But I don't aspire to be one. Just an ordinary run-o'-the-mill
> > variety.
> 
> Oh, I think you are a step or three above that.  No drive-by
> flamings, no instantly outrageous posts...
> 
> 
> > 
> > Creative trolls seem to appear only occasionally. One that comes to
> > mind is Max Varaszlo, who used to troll alt.politics.homosexuality
> > roughly ten years ago. Have you heard of him?
> > 
> 
> I'm afraid I have not had the pleasure of his online acquaintance.

I googled him must now (Varazslo, not Varaszlo -- I blame my Polish
study) and found he was active as one of the atheists in alt.atheism
during the 90's.

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#2070784

On 06/03/2016 12:35, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> Alex W. wrote:
>
>> On 05/03/2016 15:27, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
>>> Alex W. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 04/03/2016 22:10, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
>>>>> Alex W. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/03/2016 18:28, Ted&Alice wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 3:57:51 PM UTC, Alex W. wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 04/03/2016 02:27, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Robert Duncan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/3/2016 8:40 PM, Bob Officer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Duncan <rob-duncan32@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/3/2016 2:14 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/03/2016 13:47, Robert Duncan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/3/2016 8:02 AM, Alex W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/03/2016 19:20, Robert Duncan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/2/2016 3:09 AM, Wisely Non-Theist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <nb5fs7$qk6$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Duncan <rob-duncan32@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> <Snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're the one with a lot of theological
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contortions, twisting
>>>>>>>>>> and >>>> distorting what has been accepted by millions of
>> people >>>>for >>>>the last two >>>> thousand years, and exaggerating
>> with >>>>>>>>anthropomorphisms the sovereignty >>>> of God, you lack
>>>>>> understanding
>>>>>>>>>> of the word "omnipotent".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Argumentum ad populum.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just because lots of people believe in something
>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not make it
>>>>>>>>>> true, >>> nor does it confer credibility or legitimacy on the
>>>>>> belief
>>>>>>>>>> itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you're wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not believe God exists, nor that the Bible
>>>>>>>>>>>> is the Word of God simply because most people are
>>>>>>>>>>>> inclined to believe it, so the
>>>>>>>>>> Appeal to >> Popularity fallacy does not hold up in this case.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So are you lying now, or were you lying when you
>>>>>>>>>>> posted:  "The only claims I have made are that I
>>>>>>>>>>> believe God exists, and I believe the Bible is the
>>>>>>>>>>> Word of God." In your reply with ID Message-Id:
>>>>>>>>>>> <nba576$s06$1@dont-email.me>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is English your second language?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why do you ask? Is he one of those illiterates who don't
>>>>>>>>> know the difference between "tenets" and "tenants"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is English your second language, Robert?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Silly cheap shot, that, and not one which in any way
>>>>>>>> enhances either his credibility or his argument.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, Alex. Ya gotta remember I'm just an idiot, okay? :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome to the club.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> You're unquestionably brilliant. The only idiot here is me. :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Methinks he doth protest too much...
>>>>
>>>> Idiots do not make for good trolls, for a start...
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Methinks you're too kind because I'm not a good troll, not by a long
>>> shot! But I don't aspire to be one. Just an ordinary run-o'-the-mill
>>> variety.
>>
>> Oh, I think you are a step or three above that.  No drive-by
>> flamings, no instantly outrageous posts...
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Creative trolls seem to appear only occasionally. One that comes to
>>> mind is Max Varaszlo, who used to troll alt.politics.homosexuality
>>> roughly ten years ago. Have you heard of him?
>>>
>>
>> I'm afraid I have not had the pleasure of his online acquaintance.
>
> I googled him must now (Varazslo, not Varaszlo -- I blame my Polish
> study) and found he was active as one of the atheists in alt.atheism
> during the 90's.
>

Polish study?  Impressive.  That language always seemed to suffer from a 
severe shortage of vowels to me.  My own studies in that regard never 
went any further than ordering golabki and vodka...

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#2070789

Alex W. wrote:

> On 06/03/2016 12:35, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > Alex W. wrote:
> > 
> > > On 05/03/2016 15:27, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > > > Alex W. wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On 04/03/2016 22:10, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > > > > > Alex W. wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On 04/03/2016 18:28, Ted&Alice wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 3:57:51 PM UTC, Alex W.
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 04/03/2016 02:27, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Robert Duncan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On 3/3/2016 8:40 PM, Bob Officer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>Robert Duncan <rob-duncan32@outlook.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/3/2016 2:14 PM, Alex W. wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 03/03/2016 13:47, Robert Duncan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/3/2016 8:02 AM, Alex W. wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 02/03/2016 19:20, Robert Duncan
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/2/2016 3:09 AM, Wisely Non-Theist
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <nb5fs7$qk6$2@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Robert Duncan <rob-duncan32@outlook.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > <Snip>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're the one with a lot of theological
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contortions, twisting
> >>>>>>>>>>and >>>> distorting what has been accepted by millions of
> >>people >>>>for >>>>the last two >>>> thousand years, and
> exaggerating >>with >>>>>>>>anthropomorphisms the sovereignty >>>> of
> God, you lack
> > > > > > > understanding
> > > > > > > > > > > of the word "omnipotent".
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Argumentum ad populum.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just because lots of people believe in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > something does not make it
> >>>>>>>>>>true, >>> nor does it confer credibility or legitimacy on
> the
> > > > > > > belief
> > > > > > > > > > > itself.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > No, you're wrong.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not believe God exists, nor that the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bible is the Word of God simply because most
> > > > > > > > > > > > > people are inclined to believe it, so the
> >>>>>>>>>>Appeal to >> Popularity fallacy does not hold up in this
> case.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > So are you lying now, or were you lying when you
> > > > > > > > > > > > posted:  "The only claims I have made are that I
> > > > > > > > > > > > believe God exists, and I believe the Bible is
> > > > > > > > > > > > the Word of God." In your reply with ID
> > > > > > > > > > > > Message-Id:  <nba576$s06$1@dont-email.me>
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Is English your second language?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Why do you ask? Is he one of those illiterates who
> > > > > > > > > > don't know the difference between "tenets" and
> > > > > > > > > > "tenants"?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Is English your second language, Robert?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Silly cheap shot, that, and not one which in any way
> > > > > > > > > enhances either his credibility or his argument.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Sorry, Alex. Ya gotta remember I'm just an idiot, okay?
> > > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Welcome to the club.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > :-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You're unquestionably brilliant. The only idiot here is me.
> > > > > > :)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Methinks he doth protest too much...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Idiots do not make for good trolls, for a start...
> > > > > :-)
> > > > 
> > > > Methinks you're too kind because I'm not a good troll, not by a
> > > > long shot! But I don't aspire to be one. Just an ordinary
> > > > run-o'-the-mill variety.
> > > 
> > > Oh, I think you are a step or three above that.  No drive-by
> > > flamings, no instantly outrageous posts...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Creative trolls seem to appear only occasionally. One that
> > > > comes to mind is Max Varaszlo, who used to troll
> > > > alt.politics.homosexuality roughly ten years ago. Have you
> > > > heard of him?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I'm afraid I have not had the pleasure of his online acquaintance.
> > 
> > I googled him must now (Varazslo, not Varaszlo -- I blame my Polish
> > study) and found he was active as one of the atheists in alt.atheism
> > during the 90's.
> > 
> 
> Polish study?  Impressive.  That language always seemed to suffer

Not in the least impressive. I took a con ed class just so I could
exchange a greeting or two with some of the old timers where I used to
live. The only thing I kept from it was the ability to properly
pronounce Polish words (and Russian words too, after I learned the
Cyrillic alphabet). Otherwise I know no Polish at all.

> from a severe shortage of vowels to me.  My own studies in that

No question about it. They're able to string more consonants together
in one unbroken clump than any other language I know of.

> regard never went any further than ordering golabki and vodka...

Ha. But I'm sure you're multi-lingual, right?

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#2070830

On 06/03/2016 13:57, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> Alex W. wrote:
>
>> On 06/03/2016 12:35, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
>>> Alex W. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 05/03/2016 15:27, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
>>>>> Alex W. wrote:


>>>>>
>>>>> Creative trolls seem to appear only occasionally. One that
>>>>> comes to mind is Max Varaszlo, who used to troll
>>>>> alt.politics.homosexuality roughly ten years ago. Have you
>>>>> heard of him?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm afraid I have not had the pleasure of his online acquaintance.
>>>
>>> I googled him must now (Varazslo, not Varaszlo -- I blame my Polish
>>> study) and found he was active as one of the atheists in alt.atheism
>>> during the 90's.
>>>
>>
>> Polish study?  Impressive.  That language always seemed to suffer
>
> Not in the least impressive. I took a con ed class just so I could
> exchange a greeting or two with some of the old timers where I used to
> live. The only thing I kept from it was the ability to properly
> pronounce Polish words (and Russian words too, after I learned the
> Cyrillic alphabet). Otherwise I know no Polish at all.

Knowing what the words mean that you so expertly pronounce would be a 
great help, I would think...
:-)


>
>> from a severe shortage of vowels to me.  My own studies in that
>
> No question about it. They're able to string more consonants together
> in one unbroken clump than any other language I know of.

And then the sneaky bstrds don't even actually pronounce half those 
consonants!


>
>> regard never went any further than ordering golabki and vodka...
>
> Ha. But I'm sure you're multi-lingual, right?
>

English, German, French, plus some mostly forgotten remnants of 10 years 
of Latin and six years of Greek.  Why do you ask?

Oh, and I did once start to learn Elvish, but I'm not sure that counts.

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#2070858

Alex W. wrote:

> On 06/03/2016 13:57, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > Alex W. wrote:
> > 
> > > On 06/03/2016 12:35, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > > > Alex W. wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On 05/03/2016 15:27, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > > > > > Alex W. wrote:
> 
> 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Creative trolls seem to appear only occasionally. One that
> > > > > > comes to mind is Max Varaszlo, who used to troll
> > > > > > alt.politics.homosexuality roughly ten years ago. Have you
> > > > > > heard of him?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm afraid I have not had the pleasure of his online
> > > > > acquaintance.
> > > > 
> > > > I googled him must now (Varazslo, not Varaszlo -- I blame my
> > > > Polish study) and found he was active as one of the atheists in
> > > > alt.atheism during the 90's.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Polish study?  Impressive.  That language always seemed to suffer
> > 
> > Not in the least impressive. I took a con ed class just so I could
> > exchange a greeting or two with some of the old timers where I used
> > to live. The only thing I kept from it was the ability to properly
> > pronounce Polish words (and Russian words too, after I learned the
> > Cyrillic alphabet). Otherwise I know no Polish at all.
> 
> Knowing what the words mean that you so expertly pronounce would be a
> great help, I would think...  :-)
> 
> 

Hell yeah. But it took me long enough just to learn Spanish. So unless
I happen to move to Poland ...
 
> > > from a severe shortage of vowels to me.  My own studies in that
> > 
> > No question about it. They're able to string more consonants
> > together in one unbroken clump than any other language I know of.
> 
> And then the sneaky bstrds don't even actually pronounce half those
> consonants!
> 

Lol. Actually, they do. It's a phonetic language.

> 
> > 
> > > regard never went any further than ordering golabki and vodka...
> > 
> > Ha. But I'm sure you're multi-lingual, right?
> > 
> 
> English, German, French, plus some mostly forgotten remnants of 10
> years of Latin and six years of Greek.  Why do you ask?
> 

Cuz you're so damn cool, I knew you had to also be multi-lingual.
That's friggin awesome, Alex! :)

> Oh, and I did once start to learn Elvish, but I'm not sure that
> counts.

You did? Haha. That's also cool! Quenya, right? Why did you want to
learn it?

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#2071138

On 06/03/2016 18:20, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> Alex W. wrote:
>
>> On 06/03/2016 13:57, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
>>> Alex W. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 06/03/2016 12:35, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
>>>>> Alex W. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 05/03/2016 15:27, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
>>>>>>> Alex W. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Creative trolls seem to appear only occasionally. One that
>>>>>>> comes to mind is Max Varaszlo, who used to troll
>>>>>>> alt.politics.homosexuality roughly ten years ago. Have you
>>>>>>> heard of him?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm afraid I have not had the pleasure of his online
>>>>>> acquaintance.
>>>>>
>>>>> I googled him must now (Varazslo, not Varaszlo -- I blame my
>>>>> Polish study) and found he was active as one of the atheists in
>>>>> alt.atheism during the 90's.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Polish study?  Impressive.  That language always seemed to suffer
>>>
>>> Not in the least impressive. I took a con ed class just so I could
>>> exchange a greeting or two with some of the old timers where I used
>>> to live. The only thing I kept from it was the ability to properly
>>> pronounce Polish words (and Russian words too, after I learned the
>>> Cyrillic alphabet). Otherwise I know no Polish at all.
>>
>> Knowing what the words mean that you so expertly pronounce would be a
>> great help, I would think...  :-)
>>
>>
>
> Hell yeah. But it took me long enough just to learn Spanish. So unless
> I happen to move to Poland ...

... you had better hope no-one taught you any rude words telling you 
it's a friendly greeting.

This happens.

Do not ask me how I know this.


>
>>>> from a severe shortage of vowels to me.  My own studies in that
>>>
>>> No question about it. They're able to string more consonants
>>> together in one unbroken clump than any other language I know of.
>>
>> And then the sneaky bstrds don't even actually pronounce half those
>> consonants!
>>
>
> Lol. Actually, they do. It's a phonetic language.

Let me get this right -- your Polish mate "Bob" Brzenczyszczykiewicz who 
originally hailed from Pszczółczyn pronounces all those consonants?

The mind boggles.


>
>>
>>>
>>>> regard never went any further than ordering golabki and vodka...
>>>
>>> Ha. But I'm sure you're multi-lingual, right?
>>>
>>
>> English, German, French, plus some mostly forgotten remnants of 10
>> years of Latin and six years of Greek.  Why do you ask?
>>
>
> Cuz you're so damn cool, I knew you had to also be multi-lingual.
> That's friggin awesome, Alex! :)

It's good to be a cunning linguist...

To be honest, my French is rusty -- haven't used it much in recent 
years.  Plus, I have this bad habit of intentionally using the worst 
possible English accent to annoy pesky French waiters.  What can I say? 
  Pissing off the French is a national tradition.


>
>> Oh, and I did once start to learn Elvish, but I'm not sure that
>> counts.
>
> You did? Haha. That's also cool! Quenya, right? Why did you want to
> learn it?
>

Having rad TLOTR at least 75 times (that's when I stopped counting, and 
I may have been just a tad obsessive) I figured I might as well learn 
it.  At least, it struck me as a far more sensible choice than leaning 
Klingon which is clearly a made-up language from a cheesy American TV show.

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#2071216

On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 9:57:37 AM UTC, Alex W. wrote:
> On 06/03/2016 18:20, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > Alex W. wrote:
> >
> >> On 06/03/2016 13:57, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> >>> Alex W. wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 06/03/2016 12:35, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> >>>>> Alex W. wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 05/03/2016 15:27, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> >>>>>>> Alex W. wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Creative trolls seem to appear only occasionally. One that
> >>>>>>> comes to mind is Max Varaszlo, who used to troll
> >>>>>>> alt.politics.homosexuality roughly ten years ago. Have you
> >>>>>>> heard of him?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm afraid I have not had the pleasure of his online
> >>>>>> acquaintance.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I googled him must now (Varazslo, not Varaszlo -- I blame my
> >>>>> Polish study) and found he was active as one of the atheists in
> >>>>> alt.atheism during the 90's.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Polish study?  Impressive.  That language always seemed to suffer
> >>>
> >>> Not in the least impressive. I took a con ed class just so I could
> >>> exchange a greeting or two with some of the old timers where I used
> >>> to live. The only thing I kept from it was the ability to properly
> >>> pronounce Polish words (and Russian words too, after I learned the
> >>> Cyrillic alphabet). Otherwise I know no Polish at all.
> >>
> >> Knowing what the words mean that you so expertly pronounce would be a
> >> great help, I would think...  :-)
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Hell yeah. But it took me long enough just to learn Spanish. So unless
> > I happen to move to Poland ...
> 
> ... you had better hope no-one taught you any rude words telling you 
> it's a friendly greeting.
> 
> This happens.
> 
> Do not ask me how I know this.
> 
>

LOL! :)
 
> >
> >>>> from a severe shortage of vowels to me.  My own studies in that
> >>>
> >>> No question about it. They're able to string more consonants
> >>> together in one unbroken clump than any other language I know of.
> >>
> >> And then the sneaky bstrds don't even actually pronounce half those
> >> consonants!
> >>
> >
> > Lol. Actually, they do. It's a phonetic language.
> 
> Let me get this right -- your Polish mate "Bob" Brzenczyszczykiewicz who 
> originally hailed from Pszczółczyn pronounces all those consonants?
> 
> The mind boggles.
> 

Haha! :)

Well as you know yourself, German is also phonetic, and the way the Germans like to fit together multiple words into one (without leaving any traces of a stitch in between) is almost as daunting to those of us who're mostly ignorant of that language. 

> 
> >
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> regard never went any further than ordering golabki and vodka...
> >>>
> >>> Ha. But I'm sure you're multi-lingual, right?
> >>>
> >>
> >> English, German, French, plus some mostly forgotten remnants of 10
> >> years of Latin and six years of Greek.  Why do you ask?
> >>
> >
> > Cuz you're so damn cool, I knew you had to also be multi-lingual.
> > That's friggin awesome, Alex! :)
> 
> It's good to be a cunning linguist...
> 

Ah, so that's what my wife means! Good to know that all I need do is mutter a couple of Spanish sentences to satisfy her. :)

> To be honest, my French is rusty -- haven't used it much in recent 
> years.  Plus, I have this bad habit of intentionally using the worst 
> possible English accent to annoy pesky French waiters.  What can I say? 
>   Pissing off the French is a national tradition.
> 

Lol. Yes, I remember reading that the historic enmity changed around 1900 or so with the treaty structure suddenly favoring France over Germany. And it was the Germans own stupidity that did it, IIRC.

(Re: Pat Buchanan's book on the history of the two world wars -- ever read it?)

> 
> >
> >> Oh, and I did once start to learn Elvish, but I'm not sure that
> >> counts.
> >
> > You did? Haha. That's also cool! Quenya, right? Why did you want to
> > learn it?
> >
> 
> Having rad TLOTR at least 75 times (that's when I stopped counting, and 
> I may have been just a tad obsessive) I figured I might as well learn 
> it.  At least, it struck me as a far more sensible choice than leaning 
> Klingon which is clearly a made-up language from a cheesy American TV show.

True. Tolkien has much more class. 

Okay, that settles it. I'll have to read LOTR for sure now.

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#2071244

On 07/03/2016 17:23, Ted&Alice wrote:
> On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 9:57:37 AM UTC, Alex W. wrote:
>> On 06/03/2016 18:20, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
>>> Alex W. wrote:
>>>


>> Let me get this right -- your Polish mate "Bob"
>> Brzenczyszczykiewicz who originally hailed from Pszczółczyn
>> pronounces all those consonants?
>>
>> The mind boggles.
>>
>
> Haha! :)
>
> Well as you know yourself, German is also phonetic, and the way the
> Germans like to fit together multiple words into one (without leaving
> any traces of a stitch in between) is almost as daunting to those of
> us who're mostly ignorant of that language.

That name, BTW, was not an invention if mine.  I googled it.

German is comparatively easy: it has rigid rules, a far smaller 
vocabulary than English, and the practice of creating new words by 
sticking together the appropriate smaller words follows rules, too (and 
is usually easily deducible.

Thus, it is relatively easy to disentangle the 
"Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz", or 
the law regulating the ministerial competence for supervising the 
correct labelling of beef.

Similarly, it is quite easy to decypher 
"Ver­kehrs­infra­struk­tur­fi­nan­zierungs­ge­sell­schafts­ge­setz" as 
the law regulating the state body financing traffic infrastructure.

And yes, all these are pronounced the way they are written, so take 
that, Poland!


>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> regard never went any further than ordering golabki and
>>>>>> vodka...
>>>>>
>>>>> Ha. But I'm sure you're multi-lingual, right?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> English, German, French, plus some mostly forgotten remnants of
>>>> 10 years of Latin and six years of Greek.  Why do you ask?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Cuz you're so damn cool, I knew you had to also be
>>> multi-lingual. That's friggin awesome, Alex! :)
>>
>> It's good to be a cunning linguist...
>>
>
> Ah, so that's what my wife means! Good to know that all I need do is
> mutter a couple of Spanish sentences to satisfy her. :)

I suspect you will find that actions need to follow words.

:-)

Anyway, for domestic bliss and harmony a husband only needs to know five 
words: "yes, dear" and "I am sorry".

If you wish to elaborate, feel free to add "you are right, of course".

:-)


>
>> To be honest, my French is rusty -- haven't used it much in recent
>> years.  Plus, I have this bad habit of intentionally using the
>> worst possible English accent to annoy pesky French waiters.  What
>> can I say? Pissing off the French is a national tradition.
>>
>
> Lol. Yes, I remember reading that the historic enmity changed around
> 1900 or so with the treaty structure suddenly favoring France over
> Germany. And it was the Germans own stupidity that did it, IIRC.

Not sure about the French (we always suspect that they are rather short 
on a sense of humour, as demonstrated by their adoration of Jerry 
Lewis), but from our side it was always less a case of proper enmity and 
more a matter of tweaking the nose of a favourite cousin.


>
> (Re: Pat Buchanan's book on the history of the two world wars -- ever
> read it?)

Sorry, but I haven't.
I do try to avoid Pat Buchanan and all his works and deeds and words.

I have read extensively on WWII, though.


>
>>
>>>
>>>> Oh, and I did once start to learn Elvish, but I'm not sure
>>>> that counts.
>>>
>>> You did? Haha. That's also cool! Quenya, right? Why did you want
>>> to learn it?
>>>
>>
>> Having rad TLOTR at least 75 times (that's when I stopped counting,
>> and I may have been just a tad obsessive) I figured I might as well
>> learn it.  At least, it struck me as a far more sensible choice
>> than leaning Klingon which is clearly a made-up language from a
>> cheesy American TV show.
>
> True. Tolkien has much more class.
>
> Okay, that settles it. I'll have to read LOTR for sure now.
>

Read it before you watch the movies.

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#2071705

Alex W. wrote:

> On 07/03/2016 17:23, Ted&Alice wrote:
> > On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 9:57:37 AM UTC, Alex W. wrote:
> > > On 06/03/2016 18:20, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > > > Alex W. wrote:
> > > > 
> 
> 
> > > Let me get this right -- your Polish mate "Bob"
> > > Brzenczyszczykiewicz who originally hailed from Pszczółczyn
> > > pronounces all those consonants?
> > > 
> > > The mind boggles.
> > > 
> > 
> > Haha! :)
> > 
> > Well as you know yourself, German is also phonetic, and the way the
> > Germans like to fit together multiple words into one (without
> > leaving any traces of a stitch in between) is almost as daunting to
> > those of us who're mostly ignorant of that language.
> 
> That name, BTW, was not an invention if mine.  I googled it.

Wow, I would have bet that you'd just made it up. The szcz combination
is common (and Cyrillic devotes a single letter to it, IIRC), but I
didn't know they could also stick an additional cz in front of it. I'd
think it would be a challenge for anybody to pronounce quickly.

> 
> German is comparatively easy: it has rigid rules, a far smaller
> vocabulary than English, and the practice of creating new words by
> sticking together the appropriate smaller words follows rules, too
> (and is usually easily deducible.
> 
> Thus, it is relatively easy to disentangle the
> "Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz", or
> the law regulating the ministerial competence for supervising the
> correct labelling of beef.
> 
> Similarly, it is quite easy to decypher
> "Ver­kehrs­infra­struk­tur­fi­nan­zierungs­ge­sell­schafts­ge­setz"
> as the law regulating the state body financing traffic infrastructure.
> 
> And yes, all these are pronounced the way they are written, so take
> that, Poland!
> 

Haha. Those words are very daunting, to say the least. I knew they had
long words, but I hadn't known they were that long! :)

Good for you that you're able to just rattle them off. Do you speak
German regularly, or just when you travel to the continent?

> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > regard never went any further than ordering golabki and
> > > > > > > vodka...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ha. But I'm sure you're multi-lingual, right?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > English, German, French, plus some mostly forgotten remnants
> > > > > of 10 years of Latin and six years of Greek.  Why do you ask?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Cuz you're so damn cool, I knew you had to also be
> > > > multi-lingual. That's friggin awesome, Alex! :)
> > > 
> > > It's good to be a cunning linguist...
> > > 
> > 
> > Ah, so that's what my wife means! Good to know that all I need do is
> > mutter a couple of Spanish sentences to satisfy her. :)
> 
> I suspect you will find that actions need to follow words.
> 
> :-)

That's okay. :)

> 
> Anyway, for domestic bliss and harmony a husband only needs to know
> five words: "yes, dear" and "I am sorry".
> 
> If you wish to elaborate, feel free to add "you are right, of course".
> 
> :-)
> 
> 

Yes, I learned that lesson a long time ago. :)

> > 
> > > To be honest, my French is rusty -- haven't used it much in recent
> > > years.  Plus, I have this bad habit of intentionally using the
> > > worst possible English accent to annoy pesky French waiters.  What
> > > can I say? Pissing off the French is a national tradition.
> > > 
> > 
> > Lol. Yes, I remember reading that the historic enmity changed around
> > 1900 or so with the treaty structure suddenly favoring France over
> > Germany. And it was the Germans own stupidity that did it, IIRC.
> 
> Not sure about the French (we always suspect that they are rather
> short on a sense of humour, as demonstrated by their adoration of
> Jerry Lewis), but from our side it was always less a case of proper
> enmity and more a matter of tweaking the nose of a favourite cousin.
> 

Lol.

> 
> > 
> > (Re: Pat Buchanan's book on the history of the two world wars --
> > ever read it?)
> 
> Sorry, but I haven't.
> I do try to avoid Pat Buchanan and all his works and deeds and words.
> 

I was put off at first too, but it's an entertaining book and hopefully
factual.

> I have read extensively on WWII, though.
> 
> 

I used to enjoy reading about Nazi Germany and Hitler when I was a kid,
dunno why.

> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Oh, and I did once start to learn Elvish, but I'm not sure
> > > > > that counts.
> > > > 
> > > > You did? Haha. That's also cool! Quenya, right? Why did you want
> > > > to learn it?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Having rad TLOTR at least 75 times (that's when I stopped
> > > counting, and I may have been just a tad obsessive) I figured I
> > > might as well learn it.  At least, it struck me as a far more
> > > sensible choice than leaning Klingon which is clearly a made-up
> > > language from a cheesy American TV show.
> > 
> > True. Tolkien has much more class.
> > 
> > Okay, that settles it. I'll have to read LOTR for sure now.
> > 
> 
> Read it before you watch the movies.

Too late. But I'm sure I'll still enjoy the book. Thanks. :)

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#2072059

% wrote:

> Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > Alex W. wrote:
> > 
> > > On 07/03/2016 17:23, Ted&Alice wrote:
> > > > On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 9:57:37 AM UTC, Alex W. wrote:
> > > > > On 06/03/2016 18:20, Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > > > > > Alex W. wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > Let me get this right -- your Polish mate "Bob"
> > > > > Brzenczyszczykiewicz who originally hailed from Pszczółczyn
> > > > > pronounces all those consonants?
> > > > > 
> > > > > The mind boggles.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Haha! :)
> > > > 
> > > > Well as you know yourself, German is also phonetic, and the way
> > > > the Germans like to fit together multiple words into one
> > > > (without leaving any traces of a stitch in between) is almost
> > > > as daunting to those of us who're mostly ignorant of that
> > > > language.
> > > 
> > > That name, BTW, was not an invention if mine.  I googled it.
> > 
> > Wow, I would have bet that you'd just made it up. The szcz
> > combination is common (and Cyrillic devotes a single letter to it,
> > IIRC), but I didn't know they could also stick an additional cz in
> > front of it. I'd think it would be a challenge for anybody to
> > pronounce quickly.
> > 
> > > 
> > > German is comparatively easy: it has rigid rules, a far smaller
> > > vocabulary than English, and the practice of creating new words by
> > > sticking together the appropriate smaller words follows rules, too
> > > (and is usually easily deducible.
> > > 
> > > Thus, it is relatively easy to disentangle the
> > > "Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz",
> > > or the law regulating the ministerial competence for supervising
> > > the correct labelling of beef.
> > > 
> > > Similarly, it is quite easy to decypher
> > > "Ver­kehrs­infra­struk­tur­fi­nan­zierungs­ge­sell­schafts­ge­setz
> > > " as the law regulating the state body financing traffic
> > > infrastructure.
> > > 
> > > And yes, all these are pronounced the way they are written, so
> > > take that, Poland!
> > > 
> > 
> > Haha. Those words are very daunting, to say the least. I knew they
> > had long words, but I hadn't known they were that long! :)
> > 
> > Good for you that you're able to just rattle them off. Do you speak
> > German regularly, or just when you travel to the continent?
> 
> Below is the full 189,819-lettered word for 'titin':
> 
>

Wow! (I had to delete it from my response because my usenet software
won't accept that many characters!)

What does it mean?

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#2070872

On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 16:55:04 +0000, Alex W. wrote:

<snip>
 
> Oh, and I did once start to learn Elvish, but I'm not sure that counts.

There can't be that many Elves about to speak it with.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#2070883

On 06/03/2016 19:02, Smiler wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 16:55:04 +0000, Alex W. wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Oh, and I did once start to learn Elvish, but I'm not sure that counts.
>
> There can't be that many Elves about to speak it with.
>

About as many as speak Klingon, I suspect...

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#2070910

On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 19:02:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 16:55:04 +0000, Alex W. wrote:
>
><snip>
> 
>> Oh, and I did once start to learn Elvish, but I'm not sure that counts.
>
>There can't be that many Elves about to speak it with.

I am not sure that Elvish even _has_ a counting system.

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         Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean) 
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#2071098

Le 2016-03-06 15:15, Don Martin a écrit :
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 19:02:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 16:55:04 +0000, Alex W. wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Oh, and I did once start to learn Elvish, but I'm not sure that counts.
>>
>> There can't be that many Elves about to speak it with.
>
> I am not sure that Elvish even _has_ a counting system.

They left the building.

-- 
Olrik
aa #1981
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division

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#2071349

On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 00:11:16 -0500, Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> wrote:

>Le 2016-03-06 15:15, Don Martin a écrit :
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 19:02:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 16:55:04 +0000, Alex W. wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> Oh, and I did once start to learn Elvish, but I'm not sure that counts.
>>>
>>> There can't be that many Elves about to speak it with.
>>
>> I am not sure that Elvish even _has_ a counting system.
>
>They left the building.

Pity their fans haven't.

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BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
         Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean) 
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#2071149

On 06/03/2016 20:15, Don Martin wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 19:02:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 16:55:04 +0000, Alex W. wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Oh, and I did once start to learn Elvish, but I'm not sure that counts.
>>
>> There can't be that many Elves about to speak it with.
>
> I am not sure that Elvish even _has_ a counting system.
>

They must do!

Even dumb-as-rocks trolls have a counting system:
"one, two, many lots".

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#2071264

On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 12:03:59 +0000, Alex W. wrote:

> On 06/03/2016 20:15, Don Martin wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 19:02:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 16:55:04 +0000, Alex W. wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> Oh, and I did once start to learn Elvish, but I'm not sure that
>>>> counts.
>>>
>>> There can't be that many Elves about to speak it with.
>>
>> I am not sure that Elvish even _has_ a counting system.
>>
> They must do!
> 
> Even dumb-as-rocks trolls have a counting system:
> "one, two, many lots".

It appears to be "One, two, allot".

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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