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Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :)

From slider <slider@anashram.com>
Newsgroups alt.dreams.castaneda
Subject Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :)
Date 2018-08-16 21:03 +0100
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:30:16 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan  
<david.j.worrell@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 8:10:34 PM UTC-7, slider wrote:
>> > I know very well that lucid dreaming can seem as 'stable' and
>> > real-seeming as the daily world. I've experienced that many times.
>> > That dude seemed shocked by it, as if it was unusual for him.
>>
>> ### - fact is high lucidity is a rarity amongst dild-doers unless you're
>> ex-castaneda apparently heh, and this mainly because you seem to be the
>> only one who can (maybe) dild with full lucidity, we only have your word
>> for this + i haven't actually met any others in all this time claiming
>> anything similar...
>
> Aside from sleep lab experiments, we have only a person's word
> for ANYTHING they experience in LD, in both DILD and WILD.
> This includes you, bub.

### - smile, am just saying i just haven't met (nor spoken to) 'anyone'  
(other than you) claiming 'full' lucidity in dilds as being common is all,  
whereas most people usually remark just how clear & vivid everything is  
when experiencing a WILD for the first time 'compared' to a dild, which  
then equals only 'you' versus quite a few peeps by now mentioning an  
unexpected lucidity when WILDing (is often seen/remarked-on too when peeps  
use wbtb to lucid dream and unwittingly WILD but think it's a dild...)



>> added to which dilds can't be turned on/off like WILDs can, dilds are a
>> completely random affair...
>>
>> so in truth you're merely trolling :)
>
> Apparently, you don't know what the word trolling means.
> I made a clear, meaningful statement on dreaming in general.
> In no valid sense of the word was it trolling.

### - heh i meant trolling in the sense of you deliberately making  
negative-type comments in an otherwise fairly positive thread in order to  
merely mar the tone of the thing and to perhaps pull it off into an  
argument (the uglier the better from your pov), something you've always  
personally done but also loudly bellyache about like there's no tomorrow  
whenever someone does it to you? (+ that's also how i know you know you're  
doing it quite deliberately too... you're trolling!) :)




> So what if DILD can't be 'turned on or off'? Neither can your
> heartbeat, or your appetite, or your sex drive, or even your
> curiosity. (And besides, to some degree it can be turned on, using
> your *intent* to do it.)

### - no, there's no conscious switch to dilds thus it's a purely  
chuck-it-and-chance-it technique that may or may not even work; hence all  
the addon's etc... whereas WILDs are the complete opposite, and only  
actually function correctly/fully when quite consciously induced... big  
difference! - plus highlights a quite obvious advantage that WILDs then  
have over dilds from the off... a much easier and far more straightforward  
method of lucid dreaming that had been basically shelved/overlooked for  
all the wrong reasons... until now :)

smile, you plead ignorance as that merely allows you to continue to  
'pretend' to debate, or do i have to remind you of your own initial  
thoughts on this very matter that you then went to all the trouble of  
trolling my book with under the guise of being a balanced review??  
(grinz...) :D

quote:
"The author does make clear that the major advantage of WILD is the  
ability to do lucid dreaming virtually at will, and to remain aware  
throughout the entire process, and that is truly an advantage."

so... 'there' you DO at least 'comprehend' what kind an advantage such a  
thing 'might' represent, but now today you totally don't?? riiiight...

that's trolling! (or possibly just alzheimers heh, who knows)

:)

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