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From	slider <slider@anashram.com>
Newsgroups	alt.dreams.castaneda
Subject	Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :)
Date	2018-08-10 22:41 +0100
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### - ok, here's this same dude responding now to jeremy's amazon review  
heh :)


Don Salmon
Ok, one more thought (I just posted a few moments ago having just read the  
first quarter of Brian's book and already having had a successful WILD)

Someone on Amazon complained about Brian's claim that WILD's are better  
than DILD's.

Here's some scientific research that led me to favor WILDs:

As far back as William James, neuroscientists and psychologists understood  
that our world - the waking world we take for granted - isn't just "out  
there" as we perceive it. In fact, our brain (our "mind, actually, but I  
don't want to get too philosophic here) constructs (not creates!) the  
entire array of sights and sounds and tastes and smells.

But there's something particular about the way it does this - in the space  
of a few thousandths' of a second, the world "unfolds" - a simple initial  
process of unclear sensations, slowly getting more complex until there's  
"me" and the "world" (if you're VERY attentive on first waking up, you may  
notice a kind of vague conglomeration of sensations and little or no sense  
of "I" then at some point, "I" realize "I" have woken up).

Some say the entire universe unfolds this way, but again, I'll leave the  
philosophizing for now.

The incredible thing about practicing WILD, if you do it long enough with  
enough attention (especially if you've practiced some quiet meditation  
like the Zen "Shikan Taza" or Loch Kelly's awareness practices - see his 4  
minute animation on YouTube - the easiest meditation in the world but a  
GREAT adjunct to WILD practice) you'll start to notice this construction  
process, and the waking world will start to feel more fluid and alive and  
connected, and your dream world will be much more solid and substantial.

Just a few hints. This book is really good and I can't recommend it enough  
if you haven't already got it (and again, no, Brian is not paying me to  
say this:>))))

***

nice one! plus is about time someone commented on jeremy's poor/misleading  
review :)

you might be gonna get a lot more of that eh jeremy?

i certainly hope so anyway because that way the truth eventually comes out  
:)

and imho that's all that ultimately matters...

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