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Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :)

From slider <slider@anashram.com>
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Subject Re: conformation/validation? absolutely! :)
Date 2018-08-10 21:27 +0100
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### - ok this is a pretty cool review on fb :D

	
Don Salmon: in WILDs & WILDing:

Ok, just got Brian's book on Kindle. I'm reporting in real time.

I just skipped to the techniques chapter. I should mention (a) I've had  
many spontaneous lucid dreams since early childhood (that's the 1950s);  
(b) did a 6 month research project in 1991 involving teaching WILD to 12  
research subjects (it was quite successful, by the way) and (c) have used  
relaxation and hypnagogic imagery as the basis of WILD for years.

yet within the first few pages, I see something new - the way Brian talks  
about the need to not just observe hypnagogic images (from here on,  
"images" for short) but look at them in fine detail is, I can't believe  
it, something I haven't seen before (I've discovered it myself but tend to  
keep forgetting that crucial detail - it's GREAT to see someone else  
pointing this out)

a little later, in the relaxation section, he mentions breath holding but  
without "corking" or tensing your throat; if you haven't done this, don't  
ignore it - it's a great way to relax; I'd also mention "ujayi" breathing  
(look it up on youtube); basically, a very slight, gentle closing of the  
glottis, the muscles of the throat; it also induces relaxation for many;  
but stay calm and loose and playful about it....

I just saw an article in Medium on a technique taught in the military to  
guarantee falling asleep in 2 minutes or less. it's basically what Brian  
is teaching here - so, again, don't overlook this step.

He later tells you to notice an overall tingling sensation - people who  
have practiced out of body experiences for years almost always note this -  
i've also found if you can reach it reliably it's the perfect sign that  
you're much closer to a WILD.

ok, there's too much to comment on. I'm on page 77 and I now declare this  
the best lucid dream book I've ever read (previously I thought it was Alan  
Wallace's "Dreaming Yourself Awake." To be fair to Alan, as far as  
Buddhist philosophy goes, Alan's is still the best. But that's not Brian's  
intention - his is purely practical.

For practical lucid dreams, you just can't beat this

(and FYI, no, i never heard of Brian until I joined this group a week ago  
and I promise you, he didn't pay me to write this:>))))

I'm off to Amazon to see if I can order a physical copy of this book.

***

damn nice review eh? and he hasn't even read the second/deeper half yet  
heh...

very interested to see what he makes of it all tho' + do enjoy his  
excitement in the matter :)

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