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Am Freitag000003, 03.04.2026 um 14:42 schrieb Bill Sloman:
> On 3/04/2026 7:12 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am Mittwoch000001, 01.04.2026 um 17:34 schrieb Bill Sloman:
>>> On 1/04/2026 6:47 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>> Am Dienstag000031, 31.03.2026 um 14:10 schrieb Bill Sloman:
>>>>> On 31/03/2026 6:39 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>> Am Montag000030, 30.03.2026 um 17:45 schrieb Bill Sloman:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>> You could SEE these large chunks on several photos.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you can't post a link to any of them.
>>>>
>>>> Actually I did.
>>>
>>> Really?
>>>
>>>> But google is nice and provided tons of links.
>>>>
>>>> E.g. this is a good picture:
>>>>
>>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/ 
>>>> September_17_2001_Ground_Zero_04.jpg
>>>
>>> But what do you think it is telling you?
>>
>> You see hundreds of parts of the former perimeter-walls, each in the 
>> ranger of more than 20 to, lying outside the WTC-plaza.
> 
> You see lumps of concrete - you don't know where they came from or how 
> much they weigh.
> 
>> Actually I don't know, what that strange building was, but it didn't 
>> belong to the WTC complex.
>>
>> Because the sections of the perimeter walls are easy to identify by 
>> their very special shape, we know, that these pieces flew from the 
>> twin-towers to where they were found on the next day.
> 
> And what shape was that?

The sections of the perimeter walls were pre-fabricated and lifted to 
their position with cranes. There the large pieces were bolted together 
and later welded.

The sections looked more or less similar and consisted of a number of 
vertical and horizontal steel beams.

If you see such pieces in the rubble, you know with certainty that they 
came from one of the twin towers.

 From where they came exactly is hard to say, because these sections 
were build mainly equally.  If there were any differences at all would 
be a good question. But at least I don't know about any differences.

Therefore you only know, that they stem from the outer perimeter walls 
of one of the towers.

The mass was roughly twenty tons each (sorry, but I actually don't know 
the exact weight).


>> This would allow us to reject the claim, that these pieces didn't fall 
>> down, because you can clearly see numerous of these pieces on that 
>> picture.
> 
> But you don't know what they are or where they came from. You want them 
> to be sections of the perimeter wall, but simple assertion doesn't hack it.


I know what the were, but not were they have been before, because these 
sections were mainly equal.

Don't know if there were significant differencers, which would allow to 
identify the individual piece.

>> It was strange, however, that these pieces flew that far and remained 
>> there, while the much more logical place to fall upon (WTC-Plaza) 
>> wasn't hit as much as that building, which apparently belonged to the 
>> harbor of New York.
>>
>> There are also sections of the twin towers, that pierced through the 
>> walls of adjacent buildings.
> 
> They were the vertical structural columns, which tilted over as they 
> fell down, after the steel links in the floors of each storey failed and 
> dump each floor onto the floor below

Sure, ssomething like that...

BUT: why didn't twenty ton massive pieces of steel with a velocity of up 
to 350 km/h  damage the ground level of the WTC-plaza????


That was a VERY unusual habbit!!!

Instead of piercing through the floor, these sectitions pierced through 
the facades of adjacent buildings and remained intakt outside of the 
WTC-Plaza, while turning into fine dust inside that WTC-area.

THAT was INSANELY surreal!!!

...


TH
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