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Re: OT: US administration "yes people"

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.usage.english
Subject Re: OT: US administration "yes people"
Date 2026-03-26 06:40 +0000
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References (21 earlier) <G9GcnVlAOMJuFV_0nZ2dnZfqn_YAAAAA@giganews.com> <nfga9mx1nt.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <mISdnaIFmqiV0l70nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> <n2he58Fha0eU10@mid.individual.net> <CeCcndtvrdX8MVn0nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>

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On Wed, 25 Mar 2026 23:47:38 -0400, c186282 wrote:


>    For short-wave you REALLY need a long-wire antenna.
>    The little antennas that come inside the receivers are kinda shit for
>    anything outside the 550-1600khz zone. Used to have one running the
>    length of my house, just above the roof, but the last roofing job
>    destroyed it and I'm getting too old to try and scramble around on
>    roofs now.

I put together an inverted-V one of the winters I spent in southern AZ. It 
wasn't the sturdiest thing since the mast was home-grown telescoping PVC 
sections but it got the job done.  Between a tree and an overhead power 
line I can't get that elaborate here.

>    The Grundig units have a good rep. Not cheap, but you get what you
>    pay for. Not familiar with the 'YachtBoy'. Do have a good Panasonic
>    jobbie, my best one, with full digital tuning and ultra-
>    wide bandwidth.

https://mwcircle.org/legacy-receiver-reviews/receiver-review-grundig-
yb400/

It's their portable version versus the larger Satellit 700. Sangean made a 
similar model. iirc some of the Rat Shacks were rebranded Sangean. At 
least from looking at Amazon Sangean doesn't do HF anymore and the HF 
radios are various Chinese offerings. Even back in the day many of the 
Grundigs were made in PRC.
> 
>    Anyway, LF/MW/SW still has a useful place and I'm grateful for those
>    who remain dedicated. In case of major disasters it's not cell or Net
>    getting vital info in and out of afflicted locations,
>    it's the SW operators. Solid low-tech that STILL performs.
> 
>    Hmm ... sending digital, maybe even pix, over such low frequencies
>    CAN be done - just don't expect anything instant. More like pix from
>    the Voyager probes, one creeping line at a time Sounds like a job for
>    a Pi, though the next-tier Ards could do it too.

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