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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Ehrenfest paradox |
| Date | 2024-01-23 09:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <l19cshFs7n8U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (19 earlier) <uoe8g2$378s9$2@dont-email.me> <l13tl5FrkkiU2@mid.individual.net> <uojp37$b1e4$1@dont-email.me> <l16gbiFbtbpU1@mid.individual.net> <uom9ad$r1oq$1@dont-email.me> |
Am 22.01.2024 um 18:40 schrieb Volney: >>> Since the light goes from A to B and back to A, everything happens in >>> one dimension. Define the X axis as along the AB axis and the Y and Z >>> axes can be ignored as irrelevant. >> >> I know what you mean, of course. >> >> But you're nevertheless wrong, because 'everything happens in one >> dimension' is nonsense. > > Since 'everything' in this part of the paper is light along a line > segment going out and back, everything there IS in just one dimension. > > See my other reply I just posted. >> >> Actually 'everything happens in three dimensions' (if you ignore time). >> >> A ray of light could be approximated by a single line, but simply is >> not a one-dimensional line. > > It's not an approximation. It is a simplification. Sure, but the line is an approximate simplification of a ray, but not a ray. This line belongs to a different realm than a ray, because nothing in the universe is actually one-dimensional. Lines, circles, squares and so forth are simply non-existent in the real world. >> >> Lines are mathematical objects and rays are physical objects, hence >> cannot possibly become equal. >> > Rays are also mathematical objects, they have one end point and go off > infinitely in a given direction. Like half of a mathematical line. I wonder how physicists could survive in the real world, if they confuse real objects and mathematical objects. TH
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