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| From | Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.free.newsservers, comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics, news.software.readers, alt.usenet.kooks |
| Subject | Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? |
| Date | 2013-04-13 17:36 +0000 |
| Organization | PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC |
| Message-ID | <kkc53m$dij$1@reader1.panix.com> (permalink) |
| References | (5 earlier) <CD8E04CD.19097%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.12{19.51.Seattle.2013}> <CD8E1CBD.190AC%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <kkbhqd$jst$2@reader1.panix.com> <CD8EDC33.1914A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
Cross-posted to 5 groups.
In alt.usenet.kooks Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 4/13/13 5:07 AM, in article kkbhqd$jst$2@reader1.panix.com, "Gary
> Burnore" <gburnore@panix.com> wrote:
>
>> In alt.usenet.kooks Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/12/13 7:51 PM, in article Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.12{19.51.Seattle.2013},
>>> "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ??
>>>> Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium".
>>>>
>>>> It is text, by the way, not video.
>>>> If someone posts videos, and you don't like it, don't read those posts.
>>>>
>>>> YOU decide what to read, not your NNTP server.
>>>>
>>> It has already been established you do not get the concept of a Usenet text
>>> forum. Not sure why you keep harping on the fact.
>>>
>> 1. Jeff is a dope.
>> 2. Jeff, in tis case, is right.
>> C. That makes you dumber than a dope.
>
> Most Usenet forums are considered pure text...
First, git, its not Usenet, its The USENet.
Second, they're not Usenet forums, they are newsgroups.
Third, while many are text, the majority, unfortunately, are binary.
> and, yes, of course HTML is a text format as well,
> but it is rendered by a web browser.
Which has nothing to do with the statement that it's not up to your provider to filter that FOR you.
>
> If you want to use a web discussion group that is fine by my. But that is
> not what Usenet is.
>
Ignorant git, you use User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.36.0.130206
I use tin, a fucking UNIX TEXT READER.
You are a pissant, thinking you know something. I'm an administrator, fairly
well versed in USENET. (Check around)
Lastly, you're a fucking kook and I'm the current FNVW.
Git.
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"Eternal-September" should be called "Eternal-Newbies". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2013-04-12 10:26 -0700
Re: "Eternal-September" should be called "Eternal-Newbies". tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2013-04-12 21:17 -0400
"Eternal-September" should be called "Eternal-Newbies". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2013-04-12 18:29 -0700
Re: "Eternal-September" should be called "Eternal-Newbies". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 18:37 -0700
Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2013-04-12 19:51 -0700
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 20:19 -0700
Anything that can NOT handle HTML emails/posts, should be SHIT CANNED. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2013-04-12 22:22 -0700
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Re: Anything that posts only to draw attention to itself, and crossposts to five unrelated newsgroups should be SHIT CANNED WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE. Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge> - 2013-04-13 00:00 -0700
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Re: Thank you (Mark S Bilk, a Google Groups user) for reading my posts. Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> - 2013-04-13 15:57 +0000
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Re: Anything that can NOT handle HTML emails/posts, should be SHIT CANNED. ???????????? Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> - 2013-04-13 18:27 +0000
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Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> - 2013-04-13 12:07 +0000
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Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> - 2013-04-13 16:01 +0000
Lame, meaningless insults: "fucking coward", "kook" and "liar". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2013-04-13 09:28 -0700
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-13 09:56 -0700
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> - 2013-04-13 17:36 +0000
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-13 11:00 -0700
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> - 2013-04-13 18:07 +0000
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Re: I don't care what newsreader Mr. "Snit" uses. ?? Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge> - 2013-04-13 19:30 -0700
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Mr. "Snit" is damn⋅near ALWAYS wrong, as is Mr. "Banana". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2013-04-13 15:44 -0700
Re: Mr. "Snit" is damn⋅near ALWAYS wrong, as is Mr. "Banana". Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· <greghall@home.fåke> - 2013-04-13 18:51 -0400
Re: Mr. "Snit" is damn⋅near ALWAYS wrong, as is Mr. "Banana". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-13 15:54 -0700
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Re: Mr. "Snit" is damn-near ALWAYS right, as is Mr. "Banana". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-13 20:57 -0700
Re: Mr. "Snit" is damn-near ALWAYS right, as is Mr. "Banana". Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> - 2013-04-14 14:48 +0000
Re: Mr. "Snit" is damn-near ALWAYS right, as is Mr. "Banana". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-14 09:17 -0700
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Re: Mr. "Snit" is damn-near ALWAYS right, as is Mr. "Banana". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-14 09:37 -0700
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Re: Mr. "Snit" is damn-near ALWAYS right, as is Mr. "Banana". Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> - 2013-04-14 16:29 +0000
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Re: Mr. "Snit" is damn-near ALWAYS right, as is Mr. "Banana". Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2013-04-14 21:34 +0000
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Re: Usenet is a form of email. cipher <cipher@nospamforme.org> - 2013-04-15 00:13 +0000
Mozilla Thunderbird isn't "dead". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2013-04-14 21:00 -0700
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-13 15:22 -0500
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries <rhondaleakirk@earthling.net> - 2013-04-13 16:50 -0400
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> - 2013-04-13 20:52 +0000
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2013-04-13 14:06 -0700
I see at least 4 problems with the way ChrisV ranks nyms. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2013-04-13 20:08 -0700
I'm tempted to auto⋅morph as I reply to every "chrisv" post. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2013-04-13 16:31 -0700
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-13 15:27 -0600
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries <rhondaleakirk@earthling.net> - 2013-04-13 17:31 -0400
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-14 10:18 -0600
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries <rhondaleakirk@earthling.net> - 2013-04-14 15:19 -0400
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-14 16:29 -0600
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries <rhondaleakirk@earthling.net> - 2013-04-14 18:56 -0400
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-14 16:02 -0700
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-04-15 09:55 -0600
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-15 10:24 -0700
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-14 16:00 -0700
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> - 2013-04-14 23:02 +0000
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-14 16:18 -0700
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> - 2013-04-14 23:38 +0000
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-14 16:41 -0700
Re: Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> - 2013-04-14 23:43 +0000
Mr. "Snit", │A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2013-04-13 16:56 -0700
Re: Mr. "Snit", â‰≠A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium".  Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-13 17:08 -0700
Re: Mr. "Snit", ????????A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> - 2013-04-14 00:30 +0000
Re: Mr. "Snit", ????????A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-13 18:06 -0700
Re: Mr. "Snit", ????????A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium". ???????????? Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> - 2013-04-14 01:11 +0000
Re: "Eternal-September" should be called "Eternal-Newbies". ???????????? Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> - 2013-04-13 12:06 +0000
Re: "Eternal-September" should be called "Eternal-Newbies". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-12 18:33 -0700
Re: "Eternal-September" should be called "Eternal-Newbies". ?? " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq$B!&\(B" <greghall@home.fåke> - 2013-04-13 10:04 -0400
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Re: "Eternal-September" should be called "Eternal-Newbies". ?? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-13 15:28 -0500
Re: "Eternal-September" should be called "Eternal-Newbies". ?? imp@ster.invalid ( Ï M Poster) - 2013-04-13 21:47 +0100
Re: "Eternal-September" should be called "Eternal-Newbies". ?????? unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-04-13 23:36 +0000
Re: "Eternal-September" should be called "Eternal-Newbies". ?????? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-13 16:46 -0700
Re: "Eternal-September" should be called "Eternal-Newbies". ?????? Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> - 2013-04-14 00:32 +0000
Re: "Eternal-September" should be called "Eternal-Newbies". ?????? Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> - 2013-04-14 00:31 +0000
Dr. Unruh, "eternal-september" noobs can't see my posts. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2013-04-13 18:14 -0700
Re: Dr. Unruh, "eternal-september" noobs can't see my posts. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-13 18:21 -0700
Re: "Eternal-September" should be called "Eternal-Newbies". ?????? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-04-15 07:25 -0500
Re: "Eternal-September" should be called "Eternal-Newbies". ?????? Checkmate <LunaticFringe@The.Edge> - 2013-04-15 09:37 -0700
Re: "Eternal-September" should be called "Eternal-Newbies". ?????? Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries <rhondaleakirk@earthling.net> - 2013-04-15 14:07 -0400
Publically plonking everyone who replies to me is a ridiculous noob move. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2013-04-15 11:55 -0700
Re: Publically(sic) plonking everyone who replies to me is a ridiculous noob move. Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· <greghall@home.fåke> - 2013-04-15 15:09 -0400
Re: Re: Publically(sic) plonking everyone who replies to me is a ridiculous noob move. "51%" <51%@yay.net.ru> - 2013-04-16 19:36 +1000
Re: Re: Publically(sic) plonking everyone who replies to me is a ridiculous noob move. ?? none of your buisiness <none@none.com> - 2013-04-16 12:15 -0400
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