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Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe
Date 2022-10-14 08:33 +0200
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Am 13.10.2022 um 21:17 schrieb mitchr...@gmail.com:
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 11:07:44 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 11.10.2022 um 22:40 schrieb mitchr...@gmail.com:
>>> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 1:17:39 PM UTC-7, Mandy Stabile wrote:
>>>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> This is so universally and any spot in the universe is the center of
>>>>>> the universe. TH
>>>>>
>>>>> It only appears that way to every frame. That is why there is none in
>>>>> the universe.
>>>> there is. Right after you open your fucking eyes. That's a
>>>
>>> That is only the appearance of your center...
>>> It does not give a real center to the universe.
>> More important: it does also not give a single time.
>>
>> You could actually assume, the universe would have local times only.
>>
>>
>> This is really difficult to understand, but think, that there is not
>> only a forward running time, but also an invisible realm, where time
>> runs backwards, if seen from our perspektive.
>>
>> Seen from there, our time runs backwards.
>>
>> Now add these two realms together and you have an overlay of forward
>> runnig time and backwards running time.
>>
>> The only time visible is the own time, which runs forewards by default.
>>
>> But the other time exists also, but is not visible.
>>
>>
>> The global structure of the universe would than be:
>>
>> it is like folding back inwards, where time runs backwards.
>>
>> TH
>
> Across the universe is a common instant.
> It does not matter distance in between for
> clock as their time continues everywhere.
> As it has since the BB...
>
>
What we call 'universe' is actually, what we see in the night sky.

But because 'to see' requires light and that time to travel, we do not 
see the universe as it is, but receive a certain picture from our past.

This picture is 'stacked in time', because further away is also longer ago.

Now the 'real universe' might eventually be timeless, but our visions of 
it are not.

It is actually a little tricky to remove the influence of time in the 
pictures we receive from the past and it is in most cases also impossible.

But we could assume a universe out there, that we cannot see, but which 
could eventually have such properties as a universal time.


TH

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The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-04 00:43 -0700
  Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-04 06:42 -0500
    Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe lostgold <matthew.mitton@baxter-academy.org> - 2022-10-04 09:23 -0700
      Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-04 22:45 -0500
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          Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-05 20:33 -0700
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              Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-07 09:55 -0700
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-10-07 19:00 -0700
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-07 21:34 -0500
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                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 12:17 -0700
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Michel Marconi <iinc@lcrallem.or> - 2022-10-08 19:21 +0000
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 12:25 -0700
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Michel Marconi <iinc@lcrallem.or> - 2022-10-08 19:31 +0000
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                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 17:31 -0700
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-25 07:18 +0200
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Urbano Stilo <nuor@riotlaur.iu> - 2022-10-08 03:51 +0000
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-23 09:06 +0200
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Oscar Alcheri <ohci@iessicsr.rn> - 2022-10-23 07:25 +0000
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Oscar Alcheri <ohci@iessicsr.rn> - 2022-10-23 18:29 +0000
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              Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-07 14:55 -0700
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  Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-10 09:53 +0200
    Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-10 17:51 -0700
      Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-11 07:50 +0200
        Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-11 12:55 -0700
          Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Mandy Stabile <alts@ilnnnbsl.ed> - 2022-10-11 20:17 +0000
            Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-11 13:40 -0700
              Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-12 08:07 +0200
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-13 12:17 -0700
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-14 08:33 +0200
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-14 09:57 -0700
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                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-15 11:50 -0700
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-16 09:22 +0200
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                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-10-18 08:44 +0200
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-18 12:14 -0700
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                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-22 10:55 -0700
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                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-10-28 12:08 -0700
                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-28 12:42 -0700
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                Re: The Earth is at the Center of the Universe Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-10-28 18:34 -0700
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