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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: spreadsheet ergonomics |
| Date | 2017-04-06 05:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ekm3bvF9lguU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (9 earlier) <lazv90g.ab@rooftop.invalid> <D50AE6A5.9CF73%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <avz89c3.ajvic@rooftop.invalid> <D50AEDDC.9CF8A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <9azucv93.g@rooftop.invalid> |
On Thu, 06 Apr 2017 02:01:54 +0000, owl wrote:
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/5/17, 6:46 PM, in article avz89c3.ajvic@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/5/17, 5:08 PM, in article lazv90g.ab@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/5/17, 1:39 PM, in article azkci893a.a@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> So "duplicate" makes a duplicate but doesn't delete the
>>>>>>>>> original, and "save as" creates a copy and doesn't delete the
>>>>>>>>> original; but "duplicate" and "save as" "do different things."
>>>>>>>>> Granny is confused.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First, with no sarcasm or insult, I commend you for admitting to
>>>>>>>> an area of computing you are ignorant about. All too often in
>>>>>>>> COLA people see that as a weakness and refuse to do so. You have
>>>>>>>> little experience with such systems... and even if you did you
>>>>>>>> still might not know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But before we get to the differences, I want to make sure you
>>>>>>>> realize that we are now talking about multiple features here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Renaming a file (which can be done open or not)
>>>>>>>> * Moving a file (which can be done open or not)
>>>>>>>> * Labeling a file (which can be done open or not)
>>>>>>>> * Duplicating a file (which can be done open or not)
>>>>>>>> * Saving a file (which can only be done if open)
>>>>>>>> * Saving as a new file (which can only be done if open)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the difference between "duplicating" an open file and
>>>>>>> "save as"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, happy to answer but first want to make sure you are clear of
>>>>>> the basics: NEITHER is the same as moving, renaming, or labeling of
>>>>>> a file. That is what we were discussing before you moved the topic
>>>>>> to Duplicating vs.
>>>>>> Save / Save As.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, no answer.
>>>>
>>>> I spoke about features A, B, and C. You moved goal posts to features
>>>> D and E (which are closely tied with F). You want to know how D and E
>>>> are different.
>>>> Fine. But since you moved goal posts to those features and did so in
>>>> a way that suggested you did not understand you moved goal posts I
>>>> want to make sure you understand before we delve into your side
>>>> topic.
>>>>
>>>> I have asked you multiple times and you are just lost. So be it. You
>>>> are lost.
>>>>
>>>>> Just face it. Apple screwed up an put in differently named menu
>>>>> items that do the same thing.
>>>>
>>>> Nope. Not the case at all, but I accept YOU do not understand the
>>>> difference and are ignorant enough of basic file tasks where you show
>>>> no understanding you even jumped topics.
>>>>
>>>> So, AGAIN, do you understand that renaming and moving and labeling a
>>>> file (what we were first talking about) are DIFFERENT features than
>>>> the Saving and Duplicating files (the topics you jumped to). If no,
>>>> which it seems, then I am happy to explain the difference. If yes,
>>>> though, then we can jump forward on your side issue.
>>>>
>>>> Not putting you down for thread drift. Not putting you down for not
>>>> understanding features you do no use. But for crying out loud, if you
>>>> are going to ask questions then be open with what you do and do not
>>>> know so we do not end up in the type of circus this is becoming.
>>>
>>> So you're not going to answer.
>>
>> I already have multiple times, including above. If you care to stop
>> pushing your circus here and have a conversation I am open to it. If
>> not let us end this discussion here.
>>
>>> And the reason is obvious. "Duplicate" an open file means the exact
>>> same thing as "Save As..."
>>
>> For folks such as you who show not understanding of either, no less why
>> they are different than renaming and moving a file, sure. Once you
>> understand why these two are different than the topics we were
>> discussing, though, you will be ready to understand how they are
>> different. But you are not interested in that, so, sure, for someone at
>> a novice level who cannot understand such things and is confused by all
>> of this, yes, they are FUNCTIONALLY the same... unusable.
>>
>>> They may as well have had menu items for tables and sheets.
>>
>> They who? You keep jumping topics from one thing to the other...
>> showing very poor understanding or desire to even learn. So be it.
>>
>> Hey, call Marek into the conversation... I bet he will be happy to join
>> you in mocking me over his ignorance over these topics. :)
>>
>>
> This one must really hurt. I haven't seen you dance so hard in a long
> time.
I hope you're not surprised. "Snit" has been barely keeping it together
for over a week now.
There was even one point where he claimed newgroup denizens were
"immoral" without a hint of irony. I guess he doesn't read his own sig
anymore...he's un-self-aware and tone-deaf.
ObLinux:
ICEDAX(1) General Commands Manual ICEDAX(1)
NAME
icedax - a sampling utility that dumps CD audio data
into wav sound files
--
-v
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