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Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet
Date 2016-03-28 19:11 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID <dltdufF6q94U2@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (13 earlier) <nd6p1j$bj3$1@dont-email.me> <do_ray_me-4DC9E1.10455827032016@46.sub-75-242-165.myvzw.com> <nd91np$7gt$1@dont-email.me> <do_ray_me-A04982.09034428032016@46.sub-75-242-165.myvzw.com> <ndbl46$edu$1@dont-email.me>

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On 2016-03-28, Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
> For your reference, records indicate that 
> dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>> If we had to have longer passwords then that would be a burden in
>> itself,
>
> Clearly you didn’t read the XKCD comic.  Because of our innate language
> abilities, longer passwords (using actual words) are *less* of a burden
> than changing case (or using other substitutions) in non-standard ways.

Yep. For the past decade, my most secure passwords are full sentences
with spaces and punctuation that only I and my wife know.

>> I don't see the same for fancy dancy quotation marks in normal
>> English writing. 
>
> Then you must not read many things that aren’t entirely presented using
> computers that are limited by 1980s technology.  I can’t go to my
> bookshelf and pull off anything that *doesn’t* use curly quotes.  That
> includes the programming books.  For example, my copy of “The C
> Programming Language” uses them as early as the second paragraph of the
> preface!

Indeed, and as pervasive as they are, it seems strange and slightly
humorous to me that someone would have a problem with them at all.

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JR

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Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2016-03-12 12:07 -0600
  Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2016-03-12 18:30 +0000
  Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-12 13:46 -0500
  Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Fred McKenzie <fmmck@aol.com> - 2016-03-12 14:38 -0500
    Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2016-03-13 09:55 -0500
  Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-03-12 21:03 +0000
    Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2016-03-13 13:16 -0500
    Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-03-20 23:28 -0500
  Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-03-12 21:58 +0000
    Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-13 12:52 +1100
      Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-13 12:55 +1100
        Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-03-13 01:25 -0800
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          Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-13 21:19 +1100
            Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Michael Kallweitt <michael.kallweitt@posteo.de> - 2016-03-13 11:11 +0000
      Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Michael Kallweitt <michael.kallweitt@posteo.de> - 2016-03-13 07:02 +0000
        Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-03-13 19:01 +0000
          Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Michael Kallweitt <michael.kallweitt@posteo.de> - 2016-03-13 19:39 +0000
            Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-03-14 01:13 +0000
              Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Michael Kallweitt <michael.kallweitt@posteo.de> - 2016-03-14 21:03 +0000
            Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-03-14 16:27 +0000
  Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-03-20 23:25 -0500
  Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-03-21 11:34 -0700
    Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-03-21 19:37 +0000
      Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-03-21 15:30 -0700
        Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet android <here@there.was> - 2016-03-22 07:07 +0100
          Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-03-22 09:41 -0700
            Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-03-22 17:13 +0000
              Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-03-22 14:52 -0700
              Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-03-25 04:50 +0100
            Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-03-23 14:01 -0500
            Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet android <here@there.was> - 2016-03-24 07:40 +0100
              Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-03-24 07:10 +0000
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet android <here@there.was> - 2016-03-24 08:40 +0100
          Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-03-22 17:23 +0000
            Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-03-23 14:03 -0500
            Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet android <here@there.was> - 2016-03-24 07:45 +0100
              Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Michael Kallweitt <michael.kallweitt@posteo.de> - 2016-03-24 07:00 +0000
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet android <here@there.was> - 2016-03-24 08:40 +0100
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Michael Kallweitt <michael.kallweitt@posteo.de> - 2016-03-24 08:29 +0000
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet android <here@there.was> - 2016-03-24 11:46 +0100
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-04-11 01:35 -0400
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-25 09:11 +1100
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                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-26 19:30 +1100
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Michael Kallweitt <michael.kallweitt@posteo.de> - 2016-03-25 07:58 +0000
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-26 19:39 +1100
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-03-26 19:48 +0000
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-27 10:45 +1100
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-03-27 16:28 +0000
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-28 09:03 +1100
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-03-28 16:11 +0000
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-03-28 19:11 +0000
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-29 08:16 +1100
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                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-03-30 16:08 +0000
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                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-31 08:20 +1100
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-03-31 19:59 +0000
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                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-31 08:24 +1100
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                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-11 15:49 +0000
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-04-12 09:47 +1000
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