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Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet

From android <here@there.was>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet
Date 2016-03-24 07:45 +0100
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Message-ID <here-0C499F.07452224032016@news.individual.net> (permalink)
References (1 earlier) <2016032111342350120-xxx@yyyzzz> <dlb0rpFgb10U1@mid.individual.net> <2016032115300184414-xxx@yyyzzz> <here-377968.07073622032016@news.individual.net> <slrnnf3037.kcg.g.kreme@amelia.local>

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In article <slrnnf3037.kcg.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <here-377968.07073622032016@news.individual.net> 
>   android <here@there.was> wrote:
> > In article <2016032115300184414-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> 
> >> On 2016-03-21 19:37:29 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
> >> 
> >> > On 2016-03-21, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> >> >> On 2016-03-12 18:07:08 +0000, super70s said:
> >> >> 
> >> >>> Lately there's been a few times when I've responded to a message with
> >> >>> smart quotes/apostrophes, and I didn't notice they were smart quotes
> >> >>> until I saw the garbage characters they turned into after I posted the
> >> >>> message.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> I'm just wondering if there's any way to automatically change smart
> >> >>> quotes to the readable ones when posting on Usenet. I'm using
> >> >>> MT-Newswatcher and I notice it has some kind of "Word Services Apple
> >> >>> Events" you can use, but I've never used that before and don't even 
> >> >>> know
> >> >>> if it could help with this particular problem.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> I don't know why some people want to use smart quotes on a website or 
> >> >>> in
> >> >>> their own text editor, but it is a continual headache.
> >> >> 
> >> >> While on the general topic, how do I convert smart to straight quote
> >> >> marks, both fore and aft? Whether in a document using textedit, pages,
> >> >> whatever.
> >> > 
> >> > Typically, each program does it a different way.
> >> > 
> >> > TextEdit has the Edit > Substitutions > Smart Quotes menu command.
> >> > 
> >> > TextWrangler has menu commands for that (Text > Educate Quotes and Text
> >> >> Straighten Quotes).
> >> > 
> >> > Not sure about Pages.
> >> > 
> >> > In general you can also search and replace all quotes in a document as
> >> > well.
> >> 
> >> Thanks.  That should cover it.
> 
> > Just say nooo to smart quotes!
> 
> There's no such thing as “smart quotes” those are proper quotes. The
> bastards are the hash marks that many people use improperly as
> quotation marks as a legacy hold over of the days of 7bit ASCII
> encoding.

Thats harsh remark against the smarts. Smart quotes ain't carry a real 
significance but only meeses up texts. There is no place in language for 
them since the carry no differential meaning to the context. :-p
-- 
teleportation kills

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Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2016-03-12 12:07 -0600
  Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2016-03-12 18:30 +0000
  Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-12 13:46 -0500
  Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Fred McKenzie <fmmck@aol.com> - 2016-03-12 14:38 -0500
    Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2016-03-13 09:55 -0500
  Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-03-12 21:03 +0000
    Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2016-03-13 13:16 -0500
    Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-03-20 23:28 -0500
  Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-03-12 21:58 +0000
    Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-13 12:52 +1100
      Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-13 12:55 +1100
        Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-03-13 01:25 -0800
          Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet android <here@there.was> - 2016-03-13 10:31 +0100
          Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-13 21:19 +1100
            Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Michael Kallweitt <michael.kallweitt@posteo.de> - 2016-03-13 11:11 +0000
      Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Michael Kallweitt <michael.kallweitt@posteo.de> - 2016-03-13 07:02 +0000
        Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-03-13 19:01 +0000
          Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Michael Kallweitt <michael.kallweitt@posteo.de> - 2016-03-13 19:39 +0000
            Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-03-14 01:13 +0000
              Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Michael Kallweitt <michael.kallweitt@posteo.de> - 2016-03-14 21:03 +0000
            Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-03-14 16:27 +0000
  Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-03-20 23:25 -0500
  Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-03-21 11:34 -0700
    Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-03-21 19:37 +0000
      Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-03-21 15:30 -0700
        Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet android <here@there.was> - 2016-03-22 07:07 +0100
          Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-03-22 09:41 -0700
            Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-03-22 17:13 +0000
              Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-03-22 14:52 -0700
              Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-03-25 04:50 +0100
            Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-03-23 14:01 -0500
            Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet android <here@there.was> - 2016-03-24 07:40 +0100
              Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-03-24 07:10 +0000
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet android <here@there.was> - 2016-03-24 08:40 +0100
          Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-03-22 17:23 +0000
            Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-03-23 14:03 -0500
            Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet android <here@there.was> - 2016-03-24 07:45 +0100
              Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Michael Kallweitt <michael.kallweitt@posteo.de> - 2016-03-24 07:00 +0000
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet android <here@there.was> - 2016-03-24 08:40 +0100
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Michael Kallweitt <michael.kallweitt@posteo.de> - 2016-03-24 08:29 +0000
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet android <here@there.was> - 2016-03-24 11:46 +0100
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-04-11 01:35 -0400
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-25 09:11 +1100
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-03-25 05:22 +0100
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-26 19:30 +1100
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Michael Kallweitt <michael.kallweitt@posteo.de> - 2016-03-25 07:58 +0000
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-26 19:39 +1100
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-03-26 19:48 +0000
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-27 10:45 +1100
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-03-27 16:28 +0000
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-28 09:03 +1100
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-03-28 16:11 +0000
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-03-28 19:11 +0000
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                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-03-30 17:42 +0000
                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-31 08:20 +1100
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                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-03-31 08:24 +1100
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                Re: Getting rid of smart quotes/apostrophes on Usenet Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-12 00:33 +0000
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