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"Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> writes:

> On 27/01/2024 14:51, Julieta Shem wrote:
>> It seems Gmail is decomissioning username-password authentication.
>> Clients will have to use "Sign in with Google".  What happens to all
>> download-email programs?  I'm looking for one, in fact.  If I want to
>> pull my mail via POP or IMAP today, what would I have to use?
>> I'd like to read my mail with Gnus (using djb's Maildir storage).  I
>> can't stand Gmail any longer.  I'm done.
>> (*) Other questions
>> This ``Sign In with Google'' means the downloader would always have
>> to
>> ask me for passwords?  I could never just pull gmail without being asked
>> for credentials?  (Very annoying.)
>
> There's a process to get an authorisation string for your gmail
> accounts - I did it so very, very long ago I no longer recall what I
> did, but it's still working with getmail - so google should eventually
> point you to the right place.

Doesn't this involve going to Google Console and creating this string
there?  I wouldn't be able to.  It's not an @gmail.com account.  It's an
account owned by an organization. I suppose many would say---don't use
such mail account.  I might listen.

I enabled POP3 and IMAP here and tested both.  We can still use POP3 and
IMAP with just the password---must enable the less-secure-apps thing.

Gmail will disable this authentication this year, it seems.  I remember
seeing something that if you do something until a certain date, you get
to continue to use IMAP with the less-secure-apps thing, but not POP3.
(That was my understanding.  It's not clear what it is.)

It seems that the best thing is to actually leave Gmail completely.  It
seems easy to just forward your mail.  However, I don't really wanna
host my own mail.  That seems like annoying work.

I'm gonna try to download my mail from IMAP.  I tried the notmuch client
today.  Interesting with its GNU EMACS interface.  I'm on Windows,
though.  I ran notmuch in the WSL.  I saw there's a port of notmuch to
Windows.  Would have to compile it, though

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download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 00:51 -0300
  Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 00:55 -0300
    Re: download email from gmail regularly Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-01-27 02:23 -0400
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-01-27 17:00 +1000
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  Re: download email from gmail regularly "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-01-27 16:50 +1100
    Re: download email from gmail regularly Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-01-27 17:04 +1000
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 12:11 -0300
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-01-27 15:40 +0000
    Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 11:55 -0300
      Re: download email from gmail regularly "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-01-28 17:37 +1100
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-01-28 13:37 +0000
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-28 22:58 -0300
          Re: download email from gmail regularly Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-01-29 13:46 +0000
            Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-29 11:57 -0300
              Re: download email from gmail regularly "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-01-30 15:15 +1100
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