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Re: download email from gmail regularly

From Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mail.misc
Subject Re: download email from gmail regularly
Date 2024-01-28 13:44 +0000
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Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 10:44:59 -0800
> Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Julieta Shem wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > This ``Sign In with Google'' means the downloader would always have to
> > > ask me for passwords?  I could never just pull gmail without being asked
> > > for credentials?  (Very annoying.)
> > 
> > I've always just used POP with Gmail, IMAP occasionally too.
> > Starting a year or two back, they started requiring Oauth2, which means 
> > a newer email client or falling back to a token for a password.
> > I used the instructions at 
> > https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833 to generate the token, 
> > replaced my password with the token and continued on using pop.gmail.com.
> 
> Reading the link and  https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185839 ,
> I believe you have to give Google a phone number for this to work. Do I
> have this right ?

  No. That very ('Turn on 2-Step Verification') page explains how to
"Use other verification methods".

> Otherwise , I fail to see how this increases security. If someone has got
> your password then they also can follow the process and create a token. Also
> , if someone guesses the 16 character token then they get access to your
> emails. It could be that the token is more easily guessable than your
> password , depending on what processes you use to create passwords.

  One can't "guess" a 16 character token. Theoretically it's crackable,
but it can't be guessed.

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      Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 12:11 -0300
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-01-27 15:40 +0000
    Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 11:55 -0300
      Re: download email from gmail regularly "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-01-28 17:37 +1100
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