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Re: download email from gmail regularly

From Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Newsgroups comp.mail.misc
Subject Re: download email from gmail regularly
Date 2024-01-27 08:37 +0000
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Julieta Shem wrote:

> It seems Gmail is decomissioning username-password authentication.

they more or less did that 2 years ago, asking people to use oAuth2

for those who couldn't use oAuth, they require per-device passwords, 
which in turn require you to enable 2-step validation, which in turn 
requires they know your mobile number (also you can't turn off 2-step 
later, as that burns the per-device passwords)

> Clients will have to use "Sign in with Google".  

that was decidedly their direction of travel at the time

> What happens to all
> download-email programs?  I'm looking for one, in fact.  If I want to
> pull my mail via POP or IMAP today, what would I have to use?

in the same way stunnel can "wrap" TLS around a http or pop3 connection 
to make it https or pop3s, there are oAuth wrappers available, I've 
never used them

> I'd like to read my mail with Gnus (using djb's Maildir storage).  I
> can't stand Gmail any longer.  I'm done.

any use?

<https://github.com/ggervasio/gnus-gmail-oauth/blob/master/gnus-gmail-oauth.el>


> (*) Other questions
> 
> This ``Sign In with Google'' means the downloader would always have to
> ask me for passwords?  I could never just pull gmail without being asked
> for credentials?  (Very annoying.)

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    Re: download email from gmail regularly Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-01-27 17:04 +1000
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 12:11 -0300
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-01-27 15:40 +0000
    Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 11:55 -0300
      Re: download email from gmail regularly "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-01-28 17:37 +1100
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-01-28 13:37 +0000
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-28 22:58 -0300
          Re: download email from gmail regularly Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-01-29 13:46 +0000
            Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-29 11:57 -0300
              Re: download email from gmail regularly "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-01-30 15:15 +1100
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