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with <87il3f5t2a.fsf@yaxenu.org> Julieta Shem wrote:
> Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> writes:

>> It seems Gmail is decomissioning username-password authentication.
>> Clients will have to use "Sign in with Google".  What happens to all
>> download-email programs?  I'm looking for one, in fact.  If I want to
>> pull my mail via POP or IMAP today, what would I have to use?
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>> (*) Other questions
>>
>> This ``Sign In with Google'' means the downloader would always have
>> to ask me for passwords?  I could never just pull gmail without being
>> asked for credentials?  (Very annoying.)

I doubt that 'sing-in-with-google' is anything else but browser thing.

> Here's another option I might have.  I could just forward my Gmail
> e-mail to another mailbox and then pull my email from this other
> mailbox.  But this other mailbox would have to allow me some easy
> authentication and also let me SMTP-send mail from it.

I suspect misunderstanding here.  Pulling to google is a thing (unless
disabled at source), that's certain.  I doubt there's such thing as
forwaring from (google or not).  How something would do that?  But as
soon as 'sign-in-with-google' would become a thing that pulling out
won't work anymore.  What comes to google stays with google, suck it up.

> I don't have an SMTP server myself.

It's more than that.  Unless ecosystem of maintained by individuals
SMTP/POP3 emerges get ready to pay.  And dearly.  And rates will just
astonish you.   Otherwise you can have your SMTP/POP3 server all to
yourself in your drawer because you'd be unable to reach anyone.  For
nay-sayers, I'm talking from experience.

> To do that with, say, Proton Mail, I'd have to buy an account because
> there seems to be no IMAP access to it without a paid account.

mailbox.de offers SMTP/POP3 on free plan.  That being said, I've managed
to create accuont there (on second attempt) but I couldn't login in even
once (rolling balls, that's all) (I believe my attempt is about to
timeout, probably wouldn't try anymore).  Considering that gmx.net
doesn't want to let me create account (I'm not from Germany) you might
be in luck with mailbox.de.

I'm paying 1€pm now.  Considering other options -- pretty cheap.

> If I were to host my own mail, I suppose I should use it to just get
> mail from Gmail and not use it to send mail out to the world because I
> can't devote my life to SMTP deliveries right now.  So I'd need a way
> to SMTP-send mail out through Gmail somehow.  (I wonder if that's
> possible still.)

As long as google allows it (BTW, writing is on the wall) you can always
go with browser extensions.  Until you can't.

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download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 00:51 -0300
  Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 00:55 -0300
    Re: download email from gmail regularly Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-01-27 02:23 -0400
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-01-27 17:00 +1000
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2024-01-27 14:38 +0000
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> - 2024-01-27 15:43 +0100
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 11:59 -0300
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  Re: download email from gmail regularly "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-01-27 16:50 +1100
    Re: download email from gmail regularly Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-01-27 17:04 +1000
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 12:11 -0300
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-01-27 15:40 +0000
    Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 11:55 -0300
      Re: download email from gmail regularly "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-01-28 17:37 +1100
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-01-28 13:37 +0000
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-28 22:58 -0300
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            Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-29 11:57 -0300
              Re: download email from gmail regularly "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-01-30 15:15 +1100
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