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Re: download email from gmail regularly

From Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mail.misc
Subject Re: download email from gmail regularly
Date 2024-01-31 16:12 +0000
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Marc Olschok <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 05:15:00 Gary R. Schmidt wrote:
> > On 30/01/2024 01:57, Julieta Shem wrote:
> >> Before anything else, I'd like thank everyone who provided very valuable
> >> help on this thread.  Thank you all!
> >> 
> >> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> writes:
> >> 
> > [SNIP]
> >>>    For a normal Google Account, this URL should get you there directly:
> >>>
> >>> <https://myaccount.google.com/apppasswords>
> >>>
> >>>    And, as I said earlier, in a normal Google Account, you can just enter
> >>> "App passwords" in the search box on the account Home page.
> >> 
> >> I get
> >> 
> >>    The setting you are looking for is not available for your account.
> >> 
> >> I also see a broken robot.  That explains why I can't find it.  It's not
> >> available to me.
> > 
> > It's not available because 2FA is not activated.
> > 
> > Everything is predicated on turning 2FA on, and if you don't do that 
> > soon you will lose all access to the account.
> 
> I had this option activated quite some time ago (I use mailx), and I can
> also use the generated password on new machines, but I faintly remember
> that google might have removed this option altogether.

  As I mentioned before, I use (Google) 'App passwords' with (a rather
old version of) Thunderbird.

  I have seen no indication anywhere that 'App passwords' are going
away. Of course Google would *prefer* us to use OAuth2, but that does
not mean that 'App passwords' are going away.

  As mentioned, there are loads of 'old' e-mail clients, which do not
have OAuth2 functionality and hence it would be rather stupid for Google
to break all those clients. (Yes, one could put a OAuth2-'proxy' between
the 'old' client and the Gmail servers, but we don't want/need more
hacks, do we!?)

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  Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 00:55 -0300
    Re: download email from gmail regularly Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-01-27 02:23 -0400
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  Re: download email from gmail regularly "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-01-27 16:50 +1100
    Re: download email from gmail regularly Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-01-27 17:04 +1000
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 12:11 -0300
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-01-27 15:40 +0000
    Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 11:55 -0300
      Re: download email from gmail regularly "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-01-28 17:37 +1100
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-01-28 13:37 +0000
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-28 22:58 -0300
          Re: download email from gmail regularly Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-01-29 13:46 +0000
            Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-29 11:57 -0300
              Re: download email from gmail regularly "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-01-30 15:15 +1100
                Re: download email from gmail regularly nobody@nowhere.invalid (Marc Olschok) - 2024-01-30 23:05 +0000
                Re: download email from gmail regularly Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-01-31 16:12 +0000
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      Re: download email from gmail regularly Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 13:04 +0000
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    Re: download email from gmail regularly Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2024-01-28 05:07 +0000
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