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Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> writes:

> Gary R. Schmidt <grschmidt@acm.org> wrote:
>> On 27/01/2024 14:51, Julieta Shem wrote:
>>> It seems Gmail is decomissioning username-password authentication.
>>> Clients will have to use "Sign in with Google".  What happens to all
>>> download-email programs?  I'm looking for one, in fact.  If I want to
>>> pull my mail via POP or IMAP today, what would I have to use?
>>> 
>>> I'd like to read my mail with Gnus (using djb's Maildir storage).  I
>>> can't stand Gmail any longer.  I'm done.
>>> 
>>> (*) Other questions
>>> 
>>> This ``Sign In with Google'' means the downloader would always have to
>>> ask me for passwords?  I could never just pull gmail without being asked
>>> for credentials?  (Very annoying.)
>> 
>> There's a process to get an authorisation string for your gmail accounts 
>> - I did it so very, very long ago I no longer recall what I did, but 
>> it's still working with getmail - so google should eventually point you 
>> to the right place.
>
> That sounds like what's called "App Passwords" here:
>
> "Crucial to note, however, is that App Passwords will continue to
>  work, which is good news, because without App Passwords, older
>  IMAP email clients without OAuth support, such as the ones often
>  used on legacy or minor operating systems, would cease to work
>  with Gmail."
> https://www.osnews.com/story/138392/google-to-restricts-access-to-imap-smtp-pop-to-oauth-this-year/

It seems that's not a solution for people who don't own their Google
accounts.

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
If you’ve set up 2-Step Verification but can’t find the option to add an
app password, it might be because: Your Google Account has 2-Step
Verification set up only for security keys.  You’re logged into a work,
school, or another organization account.  Your Google Account has
Advanced Protection.

Source:
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I would agree that if you don't own the account, you should just forward
it to your real e-mail account.

Now, 2-step verifications involve a phone, right?  That sucks too.

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download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 00:51 -0300
  Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 00:55 -0300
    Re: download email from gmail regularly Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-01-27 02:23 -0400
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-01-27 17:00 +1000
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2024-01-27 14:38 +0000
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> - 2024-01-27 15:43 +0100
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 11:59 -0300
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2024-01-27 10:36 -0800
        Re: download email from gmail regularly not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-01-28 07:23 +1000
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  Re: download email from gmail regularly "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-01-27 16:50 +1100
    Re: download email from gmail regularly Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-01-27 17:04 +1000
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 12:11 -0300
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-01-27 15:40 +0000
    Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-27 11:55 -0300
      Re: download email from gmail regularly "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-01-28 17:37 +1100
      Re: download email from gmail regularly Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-01-28 13:37 +0000
        Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-28 22:58 -0300
          Re: download email from gmail regularly Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-01-29 13:46 +0000
            Re: download email from gmail regularly Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2024-01-29 11:57 -0300
              Re: download email from gmail regularly "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-01-30 15:15 +1100
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      Re: download email from gmail regularly Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 13:04 +0000
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