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Re: Miniskirts and mainframes

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Date 2015-08-10 16:16 -0700
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Subject Re: Miniskirts and mainframes
From Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net>

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On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 6:26:16 AM UTC-5, jmfbahciv wrote:
> Bob Eager wrote:
> > On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 12:32:52 +0000, jmfbahciv wrote:
> >
> >> Bob Eager wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 18:52:16 -0700, hancock4 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 6:43:36 PM UTC-4, Bob Eager wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I would contend that perhaps mainframes had (and have) more archaic
> >>>>> operating systems!
> >>>>
> >>>> What exactly do you mean by "archaic"?  That has a negative tone.
> >>>
> >>> Old fashioned. Relatively hard to use. Undeveloped.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, negative.
> >>
> >> Have you ever used TOPS-20?  Even TOPS-10 was easy enough to train
> >> mentally deficient people to use it.
> >
> > I was arguing from the viewpoint of other people that the DEC machines
> > were not mainframes! I personally think the 10s were mainframes, and yes,
> > they were fine. Never used TOPS-20, but I used TOPS-10 (started on
> > monitor version 506027 as I recall).
> >
> > Perhaps I shold have qualified that with "non DEC" before "mainframe". I
> > was principally thinking of user interfaces on IBM kit, whether
> > interactive or batch.
> 
> The descriptions given are IBMish.  IBM had a very different corporate
> folklore than DEC.  IBM knew how to handle oodles of data and the
> tradeoffs for design and implementation of hard/software made were
> based on that.  DEC knew how to handle oodles of users and the tradeoffs
> for design and implmenation of hard/software were based on that.
> 
> /BAH

I agree that IBM has its own unique and diverse corporate folklore.  

Where I was employed, we ran an (IBM) flavor (VM/XA) of VM/CMS system 
that had over 10,600 logged-on (concurrently) human-being users (around 
10,800 actual "userIDs", some of them disconnected service machines 
(SVMs).  And that was running on just one-half of an Amdahl box  (so we
were running on a quadplex box, using two computers/engines via Amdahl's 
MDF  ---  Multiple Domain Facility).  

I don't even think most operating systems could even have/handle that
many people logged on, let along support their workload.  There are more
than just one IBM "big" system.  The CP (Control Program) part of VM  
(and also, the CMS part)  had a very very different culture than the 
"MVS" part of IBM.  That's a story in its own right, which Lynn Wheeler 
has touched on many times in the past within this newsgroup forum.  Also 
of note is the TPF (Transaction Processing System --- for airline and 
hotel reservation systems, amongst others)  operating system which 
supports even more on-line terminals  (or users, if you prefer).
 __________________________________________________ Gerard Schildberger

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                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 09:05 -0500
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-10 18:01 +0100
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-10 12:12 -0500
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-11 12:51 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-17 19:53 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 07:44 -0500
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-18 12:47 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-08-10 10:18 -0600
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-10 12:43 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-10 12:59 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-10 21:02 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-11 12:51 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-11 13:54 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-08-11 10:32 -0600
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-11 16:43 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-11 09:48 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-11 20:20 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-12 02:11 -0400
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-11 21:00 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-12 13:42 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-12 14:15 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-13 14:25 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-13 00:59 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Daiyu Hurst <daiyu.hurst@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:10 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Blano" <blano6654@nospam.com> - 2015-08-11 05:32 +1000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-08-14 06:20 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-10 13:34 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-11 12:51 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-11 13:51 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 03:58 +1000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Blano" <blano6654@nospam.com> - 2015-08-11 05:34 +1000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-08-14 06:21 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-10 13:48 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-10 14:04 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-11 12:51 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-12 13:30 -0500
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-12 19:34 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-13 01:24 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-13 12:58 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 05:52 +1000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-13 12:58 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-13 13:10 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-13 22:13 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 05:51 +1000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-13 22:11 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-14 11:56 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 13:25 +0100
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-13 14:26 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-08-10 23:24 -0500
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-14 07:29 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-14 16:13 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-14 15:54 -0400
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-08-15 02:47 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-19 16:07 -0400
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-17 07:01 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-08-17 14:45 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-17 15:01 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-17 17:24 +0100
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-17 12:09 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-17 21:11 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-08-17 22:22 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-17 23:06 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Michael LeVine <mlevinespmfltr@redshift.com> - 2015-08-18 02:34 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-18 13:25 +0100
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-19 12:12 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-19 14:28 +0100
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-17 21:11 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-08-17 20:52 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-18 14:12 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-08-18 14:45 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-18 18:34 +0100
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-17 14:50 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-17 12:08 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-18 14:19 -0500
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-18 14:41 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-19 15:55 -0400
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-19 20:51 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 14:44 +1000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-08-20 08:11 -0600
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-20 16:11 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-20 15:46 -0500
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-08-20 15:22 -0600
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-08-21 02:12 +0200
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-20 17:34 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-21 00:58 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-20 18:23 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-08-21 04:47 +0200
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-21 15:29 -0500
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-08-20 15:36 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-20 15:43 -0500
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 07:07 +1000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 23:49 +0100
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-18 14:15 +0000
            Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-04 21:33 +0000
        Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-04 10:50 -0700
  Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-04 10:35 -0700

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