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Re: Miniskirts and mainframes

From Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: Miniskirts and mainframes
Date 2015-08-19 21:56 +0000
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:03:14 +0000, Huge wrote:

> On 2015-08-19, Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:04:38 +0100, Kerr Mudd-John wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 01:34:10 +0100, John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>> I would contend that perhaps mainframes had (and have) more archaic
>>>>>> operating systems!
>>>>
>>>> I dunno, the software for the PDP-8 was pretty rudimentary.
>>>>
>>>>> When did IBM stop using JCL? Or have they?
>>>>
>>>> z/OS still uses it.  Google for ibm z/os jcl and you'll find the
>>>> manuals.
>>>>
>>> JCL was dreadful (1980s era anyhow) I guess I just got used to it;
>>> then was startled at how simple ICL's equivalent was (George?).
>>
>> The language used on VME wasn't that good.
>>
>> How many IBMers used REXX? (I still do, as a scripting language)
> 
> My current employers (for another 9 days) have a very large IBM
> mainframe estate and still use JCL.  We even have a source code control
> library system for it. Not sure anyone uses REXX - I have very little to
> do with the mainframe teams, except as they get dragged in the 20th
> century (sic) by running lots of instances of Linux on VM. I've had some
> amusing meetings where it appears we aren't even talking the same
> language.

I use REXX mainly on FreeBSD. Much nicer than bash for a lot of things!

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  Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-08 22:43 +0000
    Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-08 18:02 -0500
      Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-08 23:54 +0000
        Re: Miniskirts and mainframes John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-08-09 00:34 +0000
          Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-19 11:04 +0100
            Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-19 12:00 +0000
              Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-19 13:04 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-19 09:59 -0400
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes mausg@mail.com - 2015-08-19 14:17 +0000
              Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-19 15:03 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-19 21:56 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-08-20 06:56 +0000
              Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2015-08-20 07:32 +0100
            Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-19 07:21 -0700
              Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-19 14:52 +0000
              Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-19 11:46 -0400
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-19 10:21 -0700
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                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-21 07:25 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-19 20:08 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-19 16:58 -0400
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-21 07:14 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-21 15:31 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-21 13:55 -0400
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-21 12:17 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-21 17:18 -0500
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-22 00:40 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-22 13:08 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-21 12:38 -0400
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-21 18:59 +0100
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-21 14:49 -0400
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-21 21:22 +0100
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-21 16:56 -0400
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-21 18:06 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-21 21:10 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-21 17:22 -0500
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-21 12:15 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-21 17:20 -0500
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-21 23:35 -0400
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-22 21:00 +0100
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-21 16:21 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-21 12:12 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-21 17:01 -0400
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-22 13:04 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-22 16:28 -0400
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-22 13:42 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-21 21:10 +0000
              Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-19 16:06 +0000
            Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-19 20:57 +0100
        Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-08 21:36 -0400
          Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-09 06:58 +0000
            Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-09 10:58 -0400
    Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-08 16:30 -0700
      Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-09 00:26 +0000
        Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-09 06:56 +0000
          Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-09 09:33 -0700
      Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-08 21:48 -0400
        Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-08 18:56 -0700
        Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-08 19:22 -0700
          Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-08 22:46 -0400
    Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-08 21:19 -0400
      Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-09 14:14 +0100
    Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-08 18:52 -0700
      Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-09 06:57 +0000
        Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-09 12:32 +0000
          Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-09 05:37 -0700
            Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-10 11:26 +0000
          Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-09 13:10 +0000
            Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-10 11:26 +0000
              Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2015-08-10 16:16 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-10 17:00 -0700
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-11 12:51 +0000
          Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-08-09 15:30 +0000
            Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-10 11:26 +0000
              Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-08-10 15:51 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-11 12:51 +0000
                Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-12 13:24 -0500

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